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Pitstop
08-06-2002, 17:33
I was hoping someone could give a complete novice some tips on fitting brake pads (greenstuff) to the Ibiza.

I removed the wheel and it looks like you have to remove/dismantle the caliper to get the old pads out - is this right?

There are two bolts behind the disc holding the caliper on and two smaller locking nuts and grommets holding the caliper together - do I have to remove any of these?

Any help gratefully received! Last (and only) time I did this I just had to remove a couple of split pins!

ibizacupra
08-06-2002, 17:43
Originally posted by Pitstop
I was hoping someone could give a complete novice some tips on fitting brake pads (greenstuff) to the Ibiza.

I removed the wheel and it looks like you have to remove/dismantle the caliper to get the old pads out - is this right?

There are two bolts behind the disc holding the caliper on and two smaller locking nuts and grommets holding the caliper together - do I have to remove any of these?

Any help gratefully received! Last (and only) time I did this I just had to remove a couple of split pins!

Undo only the smaller bolts and retaining nuts, don't undo the rear ones, no need.
If you loosen the top bolt and leave it in there (13mm and 17mm needed form memory)
Loosen lower bolt also, but do not remove at this point.
Use a large screwdriver to slowly lever the calipers piston back, don't force it just apply a consistent pressure and it will creep back. Once fully back, continue and remove the lower bolt.
You can now swing the caliper up, with the top bolt acting like a hinge now.
Remove old pads, replace with new pads (I would'nt have chosen EBC by the way - too soft)

Swing back the caliper, and make sure the springs on the top of the pads are under the caliper. Push against the pads springs, replace the bolt and tighten both top and bottom bolts.

Check brake fluid level is not too high during all of this... When you push the caliper back in, the fluid goes back up into the resevior. Sometimes its can overflow, and it will damage any paint it contacts.

Repeat for the other side.

PUMP PEDAL a few times before attempting to drive anywhere, and remember the brakes will not feel good immediately so allow for this during the 1st time you drive them. Allow a few miles of normal use before using them hard to allow them to bed into the disks surface properly.

If in doubt, get a professional to do this job though.
They are your brakes after all!

Good luck
regards
Bill

roly
08-06-2002, 17:53
u need a 13mm + 15mm spanners and something 2 push the piston in the caliper back, big screwdriver or some grips will probably do.

as 4 the fitting side im not 2 good @ explaining it but i'll have a go.

u need 2 undo those 2 bolts that join the caliper to the carrier (the ones u spoke about) 13mm on the bolt 15mm on the other side bt the rubber boot.
basically undo em and the pull the caliper off.
u will need 2 push the piston back in 2 get the pads over the disc but this isn't 2 hard, then bolt em back up as u removed em and ur done.

dont forget 2 pump the pedal a few times b4 u go for a drive and they'll feel sponge 4 a bit, but will bed in.

im sure sum1 else will come along and give an explanation u understand but that's my attempt

:cheers:

roly
08-06-2002, 17:53
told u ;)

and he beat me 2 it :p

Pitstop
08-06-2002, 18:49
Thanks guys!

Two sets of instructions within an hour and a half of my post! That's mighty impressive.

If my cold gets no worse I shall give it a go tomorrow.

ibizacupra
08-06-2002, 22:38
Originally posted by roly
u need a 13mm + 15mm spanners and something 2 push the piston in the caliper back, big screwdriver or some grips will probably do.

as 4 the fitting side im not 2 good @ explaining it but i'll have a go.

u need 2 undo those 2 bolts that join the caliper to the carrier (the ones u spoke about) 13mm on the bolt 15mm on the other side bt the rubber boot.
basically undo em and the pull the caliper off.
u will need 2 push the piston back in 2 get the pads over the disc but this isn't 2 hard, then bolt em back up as u removed em and ur done.

dont forget 2 pump the pedal a few times b4 u go for a drive and they'll feel sponge 4 a bit, but will bed in.

im sure sum1 else will come along and give an explanation u understand but that's my attempt

:cheers:

You could be right on the 15mm spanner front.. One of mine is 15mm and the others 17mm... can't remember which cars which tho... (its me age you see :p)
regards
Bill

WeeJase
08-06-2002, 23:54
remember last time (and doing it soon again)loosening the fliud res cap to allow the fliud back in ,if done slowly won't overflow out of the res???requires less pressure on piston:cheers:

Pitstop
09-06-2002, 19:16
Thanks again for all the help, guys, turns out to be a pretty simple job when you have some decent instructions - took me about 1 hour.

The only worrying thing is that when I removed the o/s wheel the cross-headed screw that's between the holes for the wheel bolts was hanging out of it's thread - I hope that's not the only thing holding the disc on!!!

m0rk
09-06-2002, 20:00
Originally posted by Pitstop
I hope that's not the only thing holding the disc on!!!

Don't worry - you have four great big bolts that you put thru :D

WeeJase
11-06-2002, 17:55
mine has no screws at all just the wheel nuts holding it on,
SEAT garage cut them off leaving the threads in when i asked them to do some work on them(no wonder the franchise was lost).
also fitted mine last night, ten minutes on one side 30 on the other ,bloody piston would not go back enough,so me and me dad SLOWLY loosened the bleed nut as we prised it back,it worked and then just topped up the fluid.
cracked a bloody side skirt reversing out of me dads drive:devil:

Scoobster
13-06-2002, 13:49
Just on that note.. has anyone managed to break those little plastic clips that hold on the covers to the jack points.. ??

I managed to break the bloody things on the drivers side one when putting my EBC's on... fortunately it is just a case of superglueing the little buggers back together and it goes back on ok.. but what a pain in the arse to get off.. wouldn't fancy doing that at the side of the road.. need a super thin solid object (tiny screwdriver) to get in there.. and they certainly don't come supplied with the car..

Are you supposed to get a tool kit of sorts with the car? I didn't even get a wheel brace.. had to ask for 6 months for my dealership to order one for me and I eventually got it a little while back.. good job I have AA cover.. lol

ibizacupra
13-06-2002, 15:24
Originally posted by Scoobster
Just on that note.. has anyone managed to break those little plastic clips that hold on the covers to the jack points.. ??

I managed to break the bloody things on the drivers side one when putting my EBC's on... fortunately it is just a case of superglueing the little buggers back together and it goes back on ok.. but what a pain in the arse to get off.. wouldn't fancy doing that at the side of the road.. need a super thin solid object (tiny screwdriver) to get in there.. and they certainly don't come supplied with the car..

Are you supposed to get a tool kit of sorts with the car? I didn't even get a wheel brace.. had to ask for 6 months for my dealership to order one for me and I eventually got it a little while back.. good job I have AA cover.. lol

I have removed mine dozens of times so far, and they're a bit fiddly. Still intact though. I use a small plastic knife shaped thing to push the 2 indents to release the barbs holding them in place.
Not easy, and no real too I've seen to deal with them in the cars kit

regards
Bill

Pitstop
13-06-2002, 20:36
Originally posted by Scoobster
Just on that note.. has anyone managed to break those little plastic clips that hold on the covers to the jack points.. ??



I broke both clips on the driver's side when fitting my EBC's but it still hangs on quite firmly - I think I'll try the superglue at the weekend.