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F2 Stu
22-07-2005, 18:36
The Alhambra is giving us non-stop aggro at the mo.

In the past 6 weeks its;

*Snapped a the cambelt

*Brakes failed due to split servo/vac hose and blocked up vac pump

And now upon collecting of the vehicle today the windscreen wipers dont work.

Coincidence.

With the ignition on and flick the wipers on they move 2 - 3" at a time- it takes 5 minutes for the wipers to do one full sweep as they stop/start every 30 seconds or so.

bizarre, dealer says its down to the linkage and motor but seems more like a dodgy relay fualt.

Lame as it sounds but any ideas where the relays are? found the fuses but no relays found as yet and the owners manuels next to useless.

Also the engine cover was not refitted and seems that its been wrenched off it rubber mountings.

The 'fairys' have certainly been busy......

fredt
22-07-2005, 20:33
The dealer could be right about the motor/linkage? but I would put money on the wiper spindles seizing in the shafts where they pass through the scuttle! drop the wiper mech and see if the spindles come out the shafts easily? if they dont! use a bit of gentle persuasion! BUT! dont damage the threads on the ends of the spindles! with them out clean the spindles and shafts, relube and replace, then see if they work?
I'll be in andover next week again and will be staying over wednesday and thursday night although one night I will popping over to wales to go ride my bike! so if you still need the TIS PM me and we can arrange to meet up some time

F2 Stu
22-07-2005, 22:39
the motor would struggle if something was seized whic it isnt.

Its an electrical fualt somthings shorting or a relay's gone.

just trying to find where the damn relays are hidden

fredt
22-07-2005, 23:33
after 98/99 all relays were incorporated into the CJB so you will struggle to find them!
the CJB replaced the seperate relays and fuse board and made them into a rather expensive bit of kit to replace if it goes tits up!
I've not taken one apart yet! but I do believe it is in layers and you can fold down the front to get to back section, will take a look and see later and get back to you
try squirting a drop of wd40 down the shafts and see if it helps or pop the ball joints and see if the motor spins over ok?

fredt
22-07-2005, 23:38
here we go CJB/GEM description curtesy of Ford

The GEM is the electronic control centre of the Galaxy. Depending upon model version, it is responsible for the function of all standard timer controls (wiper interval, heated rear window etc.) and its function is similar to that of the central timer module.

With the introduction of the GEM, special timer relays are no longer fitted and only the simple power relays are used.

In addition, the GEM is responsible for the central locking function, the electrically-operated window regulators, the central unlocking / locking function of the remote control, the anti-theft warning system with ultrasonic monitoring and the bulb check system.

Furthermore, in conjunction with the relay panel, almost all fuses are housed in the GEM.

Timer control of wiper interval and washer system

The GEM controls the wiper interval and the windscreen washer function. In case of failure of the GEM, operation of the windscreen wiper in stages I and II is still possible.

Control of heated windscreen and heated rear window

The GEM is responsible for timer control of the heated windscreen (heating time approx. 10 min.) and of the heated rear window (heating time approx. 20 min.).

The voltage-monitoring function of the GEM is maintained. This is responsible for switching off the windscreen heating and, if activated, the fourth stage of the fan motor, if the vehicle electrical system voltage falls below 10.9 V +/- 0.3 V.

The heated rear window and the heated door mirrors are switched intermittently (10 sec. ON, 10 sec. OFF). This prevents overloading of the battery.

Control of turn signals

The turn signal relay and the relay for the hazard warning system are integral components of the GEM.

Furthermore, the GEM controls the turn signals when the vehicle is unlocked / locked. This is indicated by a single flash, for single locking of the vehicle and by two flashes, for unlocking of the vehicle. In addition, the turn signals are activated if an alarm is triggered.

For installation of a tow bar after the vehicle was sold, the standard trailer telltale in the instrument cluster must be activated in the GEM, using the WDS tester.

Control of the main beam

The standard main beam relay is an integral component of the GEM.

Control of the warning buzzer

The buzzer for generating the warning signal is an integral component of the GEM.

Control of the interior illumination

The GEM is responsible for controlling the interior illumination and the luggage compartment illumination. Both illumination systems are connected in parallel.

The interior illumination is switched off approx. 20 seconds after all doors are closed.

If the vehicle is unlocked using the remote control, the interior illumination is automatically activated.

Control of battery protection function

The GEM controls the battery protection function. This function ensures that the various interior illumination functions (door / footwell etc.) are switched off after approx 30 minutes, in order to prevent battery discharge, if the doors are open.

Control of central locking / double locking system

The central locking / double locking module is an integral component of the GEM.

The central locking system can be deactivated using the WDS tester, according to customer preference.

Remote control

The remote control module is an integral component of the GEM. The radio antenna for reception of the radio signal is also an integral component of the GEM.

Through the use of radio remote control, an exact targeting of the antenna with the transmitter is not necessary. The normal range between transmitter and GEM is approx. 5-10 metres.

For safety reasons, the global closing function is not available via remote control (due to its considerable range).

Coding

It is possible that the coding of the transmitter in the key and that of the GEM, no longer match. This can occur, if the transmitter buttons are often actuated outside the effective range of the transmitter.

In order to re-synchronise the transmitter and receiver, the following steps must be followed:For additional information, refer to «Section 419-01A». For additional information, refer to «Section 419-01B».

Global closing function

The global closing function is also controlled by the GEM.

For safety reasons, the global closing function is no longer available via the remote control, but only using the vehicle key.

All windows and the sliding roof begin to close automatically, if the vehicle key is held in the closing position for at least two seconds, in the driver's door or passenger's door.

All windows and the sliding roof begin to open automatically, if the vehicle key is held in the unlocking position for at least two seconds, in the driver's door or passenger's door.

Anti-theft warning system with ultrasonic monitoring

The anti-theft warning system module is an integral component of the GEM.

The system is activated together with the central locking system, on locking the vehicle.

The system requires approx. 30 seconds for activation and to achieve full protection. For confirmation, the driver's door telltale flashes once. If faults are present in the system, the telltale flashes once per second.

Programming

Up to 8 keys can be programmed. During programming, the following steps must be followed:For additional information, refer to «Section 501-14».

Bulb check system

The bulb check system module is an integral component of the GEM.

The GEM measures the flow of current for dipped beam, rear lamps and brake lamps, if they are switched on or actuated.

If a bulb is defective, no current flows in the relevant feed line. In this case, the GEM transmits the relevant signal the graphic information warning display.

Diagnosis:

All GEM functions are fully capable of diagnosis using the WDS tester. The GEM has no self-test capability.

F2 Stu
23-07-2005, 00:45
after 98/99 all relays were incorporated into the CJB so you will struggle to find them!
the CJB replaced the seperate relays and fuse board and made them into a rather expensive bit of kit to replace if it goes tits up!
I've not taken one apart yet! but I do believe it is in layers and you can fold down the front to get to back section, will take a look and see later and get back to you
try squirting a drop of wd40 down the shafts and see if it helps or pop the ball joints and see if the motor spins over ok?

The dealer squirted wd40 on it when the 'spotted' the fualt then it righted itself and then became intermittant since.

What is CJB/GEM short for and can a diagnostic check be run on it?

fredt
23-07-2005, 10:29
Generic Electronic Module (GEM) or CJB Central Junction Box, it can be checked by the diagnostic machine but cant test it's self
if the wipers worked although intermittantly after they lubed them I would go down the sticking shaft route before I replaced the motor or control ECU!
a couple of links that may help you?

http://www.fordgalaxy.org.uk/ford/index.php?showtopic=4586&hl=wipers

http://www.fordgalaxy.org.uk/ford/index.php?showtopic=4390&hl=

http://www.fordgalaxy.org.uk/ford/index.php?showtopic=4070&hl=

http://www.fordgalaxy.org.uk/ford/index.php?showtopic=3018&hl=linkage

F2 Stu
23-07-2005, 10:59
Thanks for those links, Very helpful

http://www.fordgalaxy.org.uk/ford/index.php?showtopic=4390&hl=

Post 5 describes the fualt to a tee, the no audible 'click' sound within the cabin when the wipers work as normal which suggests is an electrical fualt.

However it wont cost anything to whip off the linkage for inspection.

Cheers