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Hey Guys,
Go have a look at www.cleanburn.co.uk (http://www.cleanburn.co.uk) - these have been around for a while. Back in my GolfGTI days they came recommended.
Has anyone used these on the Cupras??
Here's a pic of one fitted to a VW 1.8T - http://www.cleanburn.co.uk/images/fittin2.gif
they are claiming 10% more fuel economy, better throttle response, less emmisions and more power.
Whadya reckon? Worth £48.99??
Rich
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Seat Leon 20v Cupra T
Silver and fully loaded
Shall I chip it? :)
Oh - and they have a warrantee of 2 years againt any dammage that might be caused....
Sounds V.Interesting!
Rich
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Seat Leon 20v Cupra T
Silver and fully loaded
Shall I chip it? :)
ibizacupra
20-08-2001, 08:21
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by rakh1:
Oh - and they have a warrantee of 2 years againt any dammage that might be caused....
Sounds V.Interesting!
Rich
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did'nt work on my audi A6......... Made fuel economy worse. Bleeding air into the inlet plenum will make it run leaner, except for lambda cars which sense this and adjust the fueling again to make up for it - ie Add more fuel.
Thats my theory on the A6 fuel consumption going up anyway.
I still have it and will be taking it off the audi before I sell it. (its shut down and closed now, so does'nt work, and the fuel economy has gone back to 32mpg where it started from. It dropped to 27mpg. This is a 2.6ltr V6 engine.
regards
bill
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by rakh1:
they are claiming 10% more fuel economy, better throttle response, less emmisions and more power.
Whadya reckon? Worth £48.99??<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Heh, looks like the good old snake-oil salesman have moved up a gear and are targetting fuel injection now to try and make money!
Don't you think that if these things were any good, they would be fitted as standard? With all the millions (billions?) of pounds the car companies spend on research, I'm sure they would have used it if they worked!
Just my opinion!
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR> Don't you think that if these things were any good, they would be fitted as standard? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I would have thought the same about chips, better dump valves and decent air filters aswell though.
I have heard that this eko-tek does work (but I have only heard of it on naturally aspirated 1.8 cars (nothing turbo'd or bigger). Was just wondering if anyone had tried it no a turbo!
Rich
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Seat Leon 20v Cupra T
Silver and fully loaded
Shall I chip it? :)
ibizacupra
20-08-2001, 12:29
Ecotek offer a full refund if you are not satisfied with the product.
I know of a 1.8T engined Mk2 Golf that has one. I'll have to ask him if its of any real benefit or not.
regards
bill
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Cheers Bill,
Look forward to hearing his reply....
R
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Seat Leon 20v Cupra T
Silver and fully loaded
Shall I chip it? :)
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by rakh1:
I would have thought the same about chips, better dump valves and decent air filters aswell though.
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No - manufacturers build engine tolerances which comprimise the performance to ensure the engine will last at least as long as the warranty.
Chips and dump valves increase the performance at the expense of decreasing engine life and the chance it will go wrong - it moves it into the built in "buffer" between failure and reliable. I'm sure many engines have been destroyed by the factories (and many aftermarket accessory houses) trying to find these limits!
As for "performance" air filters, it's cheaper for a factory to resale cheap parts than create a reusable component. Imagine the service cost of a garage taking out a "performance" filter, cleaning it, lubing it and replacing it, compared to removing and binning a cheap item, then fitting a new one. A performance filter will give a very small (read: negligable) power gain by itself, so you'd need all sorts of toying with the engine/exhaust and again this eats into the safety buffer and you start running into problems in other areas like emissions and noise regulations.
This item, however, looks to me like it's targetting the unwise with too much money.
From the description, it's just making the fuel mixture leaner in an effort to save money. If you want to do that, I'll sell you a peg that will clip on your fuel line and it will have the same effect - they're a real bargain too - only £20 each!
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i've got one on my 16v ibiza and during town driving and moderate driving(50-70mph) it does give better fuel econamy but if you rag your car it doesn't make a bit of difference.i've had it 12 months or more now.
oh and the guy with the audi v6 i thnk an engine of that size needs two ,check their site i think a vr6 is on it with two in line http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/wink.gif
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ibizacupra
21-08-2001, 08:07
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jason:
i've got one on my 16v ibiza and during town driving and moderate driving(50-70mph) it does give better fuel econamy but if you rag your car it doesn't make a bit of difference.i've had it 12 months or more now.
oh and the guy with the audi v6 i thnk an engine of that size needs two ,check their site i think a vr6 is on it with two in line http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/wink.gif
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They quote one ecotek is good for up to 2.6ltrs which is what I've got - I did check this first thanks http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/smile.gif
VR6's are 2.8 or 2.9ltr so they would need 2.
regards
Bill
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ibizacupra
21-08-2001, 08:10
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by rakh1:
Cheers Bill,
Look forward to hearing his reply....
R
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He's replied now....
Did'nt work as well as he wanted and took it off.
"I did mate, but I took it off....it was screwing up the mapping using the
DTA (I think) however, it did appear to save me fuel bills, but I have to be
honest, my car is running alot better now that I have taken it off"
regards
Bill http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/tongue.gif
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Not wishing to be too partisan about this but:
1. They apparently work rather well on the V6 Audi – according to the guy who runs CruiseQuest: http://www.ecotekplc.com/more_cars_12.htm or go direct to his web site for the full test: http://www.cruisequest.co.uk/
2. As for Seat’s – they are fitted by a number of SEAT main dealers such as SJB Sport and Kinghams: http://www.ecotekplc.com/suppliers.htm
3. The device has been recommended for the VW Golf (same engines) by a number of major publications including Rabbit the owners club mag: http://www.ecotekplc.com/gti_reviews.htm - Even the specialist GTi tuner Vince Saiya of Stealth Racing has one on his own car: http://www.ecotekplc.com/fitting_gtis.htm
4. The device carries a full 30 day refund guarantee, 2 years mechanical warranty and £5m product liability and has been tested by the Department of Trade: http://www.ecotekplc.com/test_results.htm
5. The device has been developed by Ecotek Technologies Plc a substantial (and profitable) public company.
Hope this adds some pertinent info to the ‘snake oil’ debate!
Regards,
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Barclay
Ecotek Technologies Plc
www.ecotekplc.com
ibizacupra
22-08-2001, 08:27
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Barclay:
Not wishing to be too partisan about this but:
1. They apparently work rather well on the V6 Audi – according to the guy who runs CruiseQuest: http://www.ecotekplc.com/more_cars_12.htm or go direct to his web site for the full test: http://www.cruisequest.co.uk/
2. As for Seat’s – they are fitted by a number of SEAT main dealers such as SJB Sport and Kinghams: http://www.ecotekplc.com/suppliers.htm
3. The device has been recommended for the VW Golf (same engines) by a number of major publications including Rabbit the owners club mag: http://www.ecotekplc.com/gti_reviews.htm - Even the specialist GTi tuner Vince Saiya of Stealth Racing has one on his own car: http://www.ecotekplc.com/fitting_gtis.htm
4. The device carries a full 30 day refund guarantee, 2 years mechanical warranty and £5m product liability and has been tested by the Department of Trade: http://www.ecotekplc.com/test_results.htm
5. The device has been developed by Ecotek Technologies Plc a substantial (and profitable) public company.
Hope this adds some pertinent info to the ‘snake oil’ debate!
Regards,
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Money back guarantee says it all. There is nothing to be lost by trying one.
It did not work however on my 2.6 Audi A6 though. That I stand by. I will retain it for the Ibiza cupra I have coming and reserve judgement on that... but there are mixed opinions around.
You pays your money and you takes your choice.
regards
Bill
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cordobabrendy
24-08-2001, 21:55
ive had one for abaht 4 months now and honestly havnt seen a very big difference except for the annoying noise , cause i didnt buy the filter u see!! on the website they only mention a loud induction noise, not keith and bloody orville getting handy with the helium!!
Overall maybe a mile to the gallon, and i drive my 2.0sx all day every day, in and out of town going to different sites..
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perhaps you have yours open too much, mine hardly makes a noise thats why i did'nt buy the filter it sucks but doesn't make a niose unless i've got the bonnet up
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I've been running a ecotek cb-26p on my seat leon 20vt cupra for 6 months and have noticed 1-2mpg better fuel economy if i dont rag it too much but it seems to save me more fuel in the winter time when i cant use all the power available to my right foot, i have measured my fuel economy with the valve fully closed and fully open just to check it wasnt just me driving more carefully in the wet and it does seem to save a bit of fuel, i can sometimes drive 700 miles in a day using more than 2 tanks of fuel which give me good opportunities to test it properly,
As for the power of the car, It doesnt seem to increase or decrease the power at all for some reason, i was hoping for at least a small improvement in power http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/redface.gif(
I got the filter for it after using the valve for a month because i took the valve apart for cleaning and the amount of dust and dirt in it was clogging it up and it couldnt close properly and suddenly realised that the dirt the valve didnt trap was going straight into my engine!! (altough the filter never seems to get dirty, but the valve is a lot cleaner internally now).
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