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Syphon
24-08-2005, 00:48
Interesting the new TFSI has come in at group 11, whereas the equivalent (in power) Mk1 FR is 16. For reference the R is 17.

http://www.seat.co.uk/generator/su/uk/newLeon/site/models-prices/comparison/main,lang=en,templateId=carspec-newleon,modelyear=2006,carname=new%20leon,pagetype=ig.html

http://www.seat.co.uk/generator/su/uk/leon/site/choices/comparison/main,lang=en,templateId=carspec-leon,modelyear=2006,carname=leon,pagetype=ig.html

Scott
m0rk
24-08-2005, 07:50
Makes sense - it should be lower with the safety features & better seats :)
LEO LION R
24-08-2005, 08:14
Less appealing to steal, just joking :hide:

Probably a back hander to the insurance companies, will it not put VW noses out of joint now ?


:cheers:
Craigc
24-08-2005, 09:17
It's also slightly slower than the FR although perhaps not 5 groups slower ...
Knigh
24-08-2005, 13:55
The lower rating is that the car is not seen as a Hot Hatch where as the FR and LCR are marketed and viewed as Hot Hatches. Drivers are these cars are seen as a higher risk and we pay the price.
m0rk
24-08-2005, 14:05
erm - no

insurance groups aren't worked out by model name.

it's by bhp, bhp/tonne, safety features, anti whiplash seats, cost of panel replacement, crash ratings
Knigh
24-08-2005, 15:07
erm - no

insurance groups aren't worked out by model name.

it's by bhp, bhp/tonne, safety features, anti whiplash seats, cost of panel replacement, crash ratings


I take your point re the above however insurers do factor in /stereo-type the person that is likely to be attracted to performance models. eg the beezer TDi FR is quoted at group 8 where as the Cupra TDi is quoted as insurance group 16. The extra performance alone does not justify the steep increase insurance costs.
m0rk
24-08-2005, 15:14
well - I'm going by the information provided by SEAT to me when they were explaining how insurance groups are made.

but maybe I made it all up.

Insurance groups are based purely on the 'the car' not the demographic group that may buy it.
jmcvicar
24-08-2005, 15:57
if it's seen as attractive to thieves, it will be a high group too - for those in the know, the FR and Cupra are the most sought after models (by thieving c*nts) and as a result will command a higher premium.
@bs
10-09-2005, 09:56
Interesting the new TFSI has come in at group 11, whereas the equivalent (in power) Mk1 FR is 16. For reference the R is 17.

http://www.seat.co.uk/generator/su/uk/newLeon/site/models-prices/comparison/main,lang=en,templateId=carspec-newleon,modelyear=2006,carname=new%20leon,pagetype=ig.html

http://www.seat.co.uk/generator/su/uk/leon/site/choices/comparison/main,lang=en,templateId=carspec-leon,modelyear=2006,carname=leon,pagetype=ig.html

Scott

Looks like it has now changed to group 14!

http://www.seat.co.uk/generator/su/uk/newLeon/site/models-prices/handler,lang=en,templateId=carspec-newleon,modelyear=2006,carname=new%20leon,trim=Sport,pagetype=ig.html