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mexicupra
11-09-2005, 19:33
guys
i noticed on a previous thread that all you cupra owners have red "seat sport" brake calipers front and back as standard.
I how ever dont!! the most likely reason is that my cupra is mexican, but i have taken some pics and posted them down below and was wondering if you guys could tell me is they are the same spec as yours, i.e. dimensions and braking power.
if it is a case of that they are different then im going to get me some new ones!!!
cheers guys
http://images5.theimagehosting.com/brakes 001.jpg
http://images5.theimagehosting.com/brakes 002.jpg
http://images5.theimagehosting.com/brakes 003.jpg
mexicupra
11-09-2005, 19:34
mmmm try these links instead!!
http://images5.theimagehosting.com/brakes 001.jpg (http://www.theimagehosting.com)
http://images5.theimagehosting.com/brakes 002.jpg (http://www.theimagehosting.com)
http://images5.theimagehosting.com/brakes 003.jpg (http://www.theimagehosting.com)
zac_69_uk
11-09-2005, 19:38
These look like the standard VAG 312mm calipers.....
These are the AP 312mm 4 pot calipers (smaller caliper is the Brembo 312mm)
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1066423/549K0039.jpg
AP Caliper on top.
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1066423/549K0041.jpg
muddyboots
11-09-2005, 19:50
Yep you've got the same 312mm discs/calipers as fitted to the Audi TT, S3, Leon Cupra, and Octavia VRS...
Not the Seat Sport setup fitted to UK Cupras :(
iancupra
11-09-2005, 19:59
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v178/ianc2/Ibiza%20Cupra/100_0137.jpg
Thats mine on a UK car
mexicupra
11-09-2005, 20:16
ok cheers guys, so does that mean that the ones that you have are better?
muddyboots
11-09-2005, 20:39
Yes :)
Stephen O
11-09-2005, 22:44
Oh yes!!!! :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/stevo8375/IbizaCupra003.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/stevo8375/IbizaCupra017.jpg
mexicupra
11-09-2005, 23:43
ok excelent guys, thanks for all your info. could anyone give me a part number for the front calipers and the rear ones so that i can see if i can order them from my local dealer, and also if you can give me a rough idea of how much they cost.
mexicupra
11-09-2005, 23:45
mmmm actually thinking about would i need to change my disks aswell? or are those the same as all yours?
muddyboots
12-09-2005, 07:30
Well they are the same diameter at 312mm, so you might be in luck - sure someone else will confirm though !
mexicupra
12-09-2005, 16:07
thanks muddy, i was looking at your site, nice car! ...........anyone else?
mexicupra
12-09-2005, 16:46
can anyone give me a part number for these calipers please
muddyboots
12-09-2005, 19:47
The pics on my site are of the originals, 288mm IIRC.
Haven't got any decent ones of the 312mm setup yet....
IIRC thay are about £500.
mexicupra
13-09-2005, 16:49
thanks EB, but i still need a part number if anyone can give it to me, thanks
Grey Fox
14-09-2005, 13:26
ok cheers guys, so does that mean that the ones that you have are better?
If mine are anything to go buy Mexicupra, I'd have to say keep the ones you have. It may not be the fault of the calipers but I've known better stopping power on bog Astra diesel.
zac_69_uk
14-09-2005, 14:44
Grey fox,
I think at low speeds you have to use a lot of pedal to get the car to stop quickly.
What i have found is that they come into there own when you need to stop quickly at high speeds.
I travel from the Birmingham (Airport / NEC) down to Tewkesbury M5, J9 everyday and quite often due to other c*cks on the road have to do some sharp braking.......
Grey Fox
14-09-2005, 15:00
Tis true, they do stop you well enough. I think it's just the feel doesn't inspire confidence. I was expecting more from the swanky looking 'Seat Sport' versions.
<I get on the M5 at J9 somedays, I've seen a black one wooshing round a couple of times>
zac_69_uk
14-09-2005, 16:15
Could well be me mate, I usually get into work for 8am.
Number plate is BK54 L**
Did you get your Cupra from Amethyst?
Grey Fox
14-09-2005, 16:30
Sure did. Taking Coop to work on Friday (hopefully have a go at the REVO trial - weather permitting) via M50, I'll keep an eye out for ya.
zac_69_uk
14-09-2005, 16:43
I didn't think you could get the REVO trial on the diesel?
What colour is your Cupra?
what do you think of Amethyst/ I had my first service with them, seemed ok....
Badger 5 do REVO and they are based in Stroud
In all honesty, I have driven my old PD130 with a 312mm conversion, as mexicupra has, and my mum's PD160 with the SEAT Sport setup.
I actually found my setup better, probably it had decent fluid in it. Even now, I still don't justify Brembos or SEAT Sport calipers, because the 312mm setup I have is more than good enough.
Free trial doesn't apply to diesels due to there being insufficient space on the ECU. But they do offer a 30 day money back guarantee ;) Not that you'll need it :whistle:
Grey Fox
14-09-2005, 18:43
:( Oh bugger, I didn't know that. That's a shame as I wanted to feel the benefits and mainly find out how much more black stuff it chucks out, before I shell out 500 smackers.
Good job I mentioned it.
Appologies for going off-topic mexicupra.
flashbsd
14-09-2005, 19:09
id honestly go for brembo upgrades if you going to, IMO i drove a mk4 with SS brakes, and didnt find them that great, then drove a mk3 cupra R and the brembo's shone :)
mexicupra
15-09-2005, 19:40
mmmmmmm thanks guys, after reading all comments im still not sure if i should do it! however if someone can give me a part number then ill pop to my dealer and see how easy it would be for them to get hold of them.......cos they may just simply tell me that they cant get them, therefor problem solved
STONeCupra
10-01-2006, 14:55
Well i just bought my 2006 ibiza cupra and i saw that in Europe sport brakes are optional but not in Mexico.
I called VW customer service and i asked if they could get me those kind of brakes and they just said "no sir i'm sorry, those kind of products are not for sale in Mexico but if you really want them would be very expensive, maybe over 3,000 USD for you"
My God!
depresion
14-01-2006, 16:46
The lack of peddal feel and long travel could be down to the seat sport being 4pots so you need to displace more fluid than with the 2 pot TT ones. (This may not be the case as I don't know the diamiters of the cylinders) but you could try looking for a larger diamiter master cylinder this would reduse pedal travel but require more force to be aplied to the pedal to acheave the same force at the wheel you get with a smaller piston and more travel. Fitting 22mm master cylinders to G40s is a common "upgrade" for that reason, you don't actualy stop quicker but you get a more positive feel from the pedal.
STONeCupra
09-04-2006, 06:54
Hey hello, please spare those part numbers i'd like to get rid of my standard brakes and upgrade on thos seat sport brembo brakes.
For mexicupra, it seems that here in Mexico VW does not import them as a costumer option, i already asked them by phone and they told me that if i really want them i would have to pay over 2,500USD for them.
So, i was thinking if we could have the correct measurements for the 312mm frons and 288mm rear discs and also the kind of brembo caliper model and get them directly from ebay.
Does anyone knows the right tech measurements for replacing them?
I was thinking that maybe a porsche 911 brembo would fit on, what you think?
mexicupra
09-04-2006, 20:15
stonecupra,
we are very few that have ibiza cupras here in mexico, so keep in touch so that we can share information
STONeCupra
10-04-2006, 04:07
stonecupra,
we are very few that have ibiza cupras here in mexico, so keep in touch so that we can share information
Sure indeed send me a PM so we can get our msns.
Did you get your big brakes yet?
STONE