View Full Version : Cupra R Brembo Brakes on a standard Cupra?
cupramatt
06-09-2001, 18:01
Hi Everyone,
I've just picked up another new cupra (long story, dealership mess, done 1900 miles in my old one and now have one with 22 miles on it http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/biggrin.gif (they gave me the wrong one!)).
Anyway, whilst I was there I enquired about the Cupra R brembo's.
I was really shocked when I was told the whole lot, brembo calipers, disks and pads are about £340 including VAT! I was expecting them to be about the same price as the AP 4-pots.
Anyway, has anyone done the conversion? Do they go straight on? Are they 4-pots?
ta,
Matt.
Silver Cupra
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Dunno if they fit straight on, i'll have some of them tho, find out more http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/smile.gif
Saul
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chungster
06-09-2001, 18:27
That has to be asbsolute crap.....
cos if it is £340+VAT....then i'm getting some next week!!!
Can't be true.....£1340+ VAT is more like it!!!
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ibizacupra
06-09-2001, 21:10
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by cupramatt:
Hi Everyone,
I've just picked up another new cupra (long story, dealership mess, done 1900 miles in my old one and now have one with 22 miles on it http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/biggrin.gif (they gave me the wrong one!)).
Anyway, whilst I was there I enquired about the Cupra R brembo's.
I was really shocked when I was told the whole lot, brembo calipers, disks and pads are about £340 including VAT! I was expecting them to be about the same price as the AP 4-pots.
Anyway, has anyone done the conversion? Do they go straight on? Are they 4-pots?
ta,
Matt.
Silver Cupra
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No way man???
£340?
eh?
http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/confused.gif
bill
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cupramatt
06-09-2001, 21:26
seriously,
the parts guy in Listers Coventry checked it and when he said that I got him to check it again, he is 'positive' they are that much!
He said the calipers area about £110 each (apparently).
I also find/found it hard to believe!
If they are that much tho guess what I'm gonna get http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/biggrin.gif
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HE's RIGHT , well almost
BUT with all the brackets PIPES bolts AND EVERY OTHER FITTING REQUIRED it gets a LOT dearer , calipers ARE £100 each BUT the 1 main braket part is £80 the 2nd part is £68 and the list goes on ,if i remember you need EVERYTHING on screen ,ecen the bolts are £15 each ,so get him to check it ALL off first
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DAZ the AMETHYST parts manager
(refreshing the PARTS most other dealers cannot reach)
cupramatt
07-09-2001, 01:24
Thanks for the info Daz, can you supply them at all? If so, what would the complete package cost, inclusive of fitting?
ta,
Matt.
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mail me flapper@seatcupra.net as i'll print em all an check it @ work for ya
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DAZ the AMETHYST parts manager
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rriveroll
08-09-2001, 17:26
Does the Brembos use larger size Disks? If not I recommend you use SEAT SPORT calipers which work with the standard disks and everything else. SEAT uses them for a CUP series in spain, I also have the rear calipers but I dont think you really need them. I have them in my Ibiza and I compared them APs system and they seem to be just as good at a fraction of the cost. Your SEAT dealer should be able to get them.
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2001 Seat Ibiza Cupra
KKK K04 Turbo + Chip
HKS Intercooler + Custom Pipes
Seat Sport Brake Calipers
Bilstein PSS9 Coil Over Suspension
Extra Oil Cooler
K&N Air Filter
[Message edited by rriveroll on 08 September 2001.]
cupramatt
11-09-2001, 00:04
Daz,
I tried mailing you but got a failure, could you drop me a mail at matt@world-data-systems.com please?
btw... I got a definate package price from Listers of £399 inc vat including all bolts, brackets etc...
ta,
Matt.
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Lucky_32
11-09-2001, 22:52
oh I can se it now... I get an Arosa, do the upgrade in the cordien and put the cordie brakes on the arosa.................
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Mmmmmnmnmmnmmnmnmnmnm mmmm mmmm m m m ah.
Oh hello MOM................ Just chatin to my freinds.....
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Matt, well done this sounds like a top deal!
Is there any way you can post a complete list of bits, prices, etc.
I must admit I'm surprised at the price myself and thought you would need 17" alloys for the bigger calipers for a start. Do you keep the standard size discs then?
Riveroll, your Ibiza will have smaller discs than the Leon so you won't be able to use the Seat Sport caliprers
rriveroll
13-09-2001, 14:25
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 20VT:
Matt, well done this sounds like a top deal!
Is there any way you can post a complete list of bits, prices, etc.
I must admit I'm surprised at the price myself and thought you would need 17" alloys for the bigger calipers for a start. Do you keep the standard size discs then?
Riveroll, your Ibiza will have smaller discs than the Leon so you won't be able to use the Seat Sport caliprers<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
20VT, I have SEAT SPORT calipers on my Ibiza. I guess they are not the same as the ones on the Leon but they are original SEAT Sport and the are awesome.
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2001 Seat Ibiza Cupra
KKK K04 Turbo + Chip
HKS Intercooler + Custom Pipes
Seat Sport Brake Calipers
Bilstein PSS9 Coil Over Suspension
Extra Oil Cooler
K&N Air Filter
Doh, I've just realised you're probably on about the Ibiza and I was thinking about the Leon Cupra R/20VT, what a shame http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/confused.gif
i have 98 8v cupra with 17" wheels would these brakes fit. btw it does not have abs. http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/eek.gif
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as for the 8v ?? mmmm posibble ,only way to find out is too try ,if it helps the old shape DISCS are the same part no as the current CUPRA http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/wink.gif
as for the BREMBO kit check ya mail my man ,ive just sent a list of it ALL that i reckon you will need , comes to £900 YOWCH ,mind you you may not need all of it
?????
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DAZ the AMETHYST parts manager ( flapper@seatcupra.net )
(refreshing the PARTS most other dealers cannot reach)
CUP RAcing
17-09-2001, 23:01
As someone who does not really understand all of this braking technology, can someone please answer me a simple question....
I find the standard brakes on my Ibiza Cupra very poor, its only done 2000 miles, and I have not used the brakes to excess, but find that they just dont fill me with any confidence when I want to use them, the front seems ok, but the back just doesnt seem to brake at the same rate, making the car feel very light at the back, not good when taking a corner at 50 ish.
Now £900 is a bit too much for me to spend on the upgrade but I really want to do something to help the situation, thoughts anyone ? flapper ? some idea of prices would be good.
Thanks in advance http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/biggrin.gif
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we have listed the TAROX option ??
£499 inc vat and fitting
TAROX grooved discs and fast road pads
still a tad dear though ,mind you i dont reckon the std brakes are that bad ??
as for the TYPE R ,discs are 305*28 so they are bigger and as for the FULL kit ,you may ???? not need it all but to be honest experience states it usually the case or some FAST fixits @ fitting time
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DAZ the AMETHYST parts manager ( flapper@seatcupra.net )
(refreshing the PARTS most other dealers cannot reach)
ibizacupra
21-09-2001, 11:41
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CUP RAcing:
As someone who does not really understand all of this braking technology, can someone please answer me a simple question....
I find the standard brakes on my Ibiza Cupra very poor, its only done 2000 miles, and I have not used the brakes to excess, but find that they just dont fill me with any confidence when I want to use them, the front seems ok, but the back just doesnt seem to brake at the same rate, making the car feel very light at the back, not good when taking a corner at 50 ish.
Now £900 is a bit too much for me to spend on the upgrade but I really want to do something to help the situation, thoughts anyone ? flapper ? some idea of prices would be good.
Thanks in advance http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/biggrin.gif
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When you say the back feels light.... I think its as much down to the front suspension dive under braking as it is brake effectiveness.
I have the Tarox disks and EBC pads as part of my 210 conversion. They work very well, but I agree there is an unsettling feeling when the front is diving hard under hard braking. This is suspension though and spring rates I believe.
My 2 penneth.
regards
Bill
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cupracing I too believe its the suspension.
The rear brakes MUST not be as effective as the front, because you'll be in serious trouble braking at say 100mph having 50%-50% brakes.
Check the suspension, in my opinion the standard Ibiza cupra suspension sux big time. I would go for a new suspension, that'll offer superior handling and increase braking power.
Plus you won't need to hit the brakes so often at 50ish when cornering....! http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/smile.gif
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Petrolhead Paul
28-09-2001, 10:10
I don't want to come across as an arse but you shouldn't really brake in a bend anyway, but BEFORE the bend. Slow in, fast out, brake on the straight before, keep moderate power then gradually increase it when you see the exit.
To brake mid bend will get you out of shape in most cars regardless of how well they handle (and French cars can be much less forgiving than VWs and Seats in this respect)
Of course with better tyres and suspension you'll be able to enter the bend faster in the first place with less understeer. Gotta start saving for these PSS9s http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/tongue.gif
P.S. Even just upgrading the pads to more fade resistant ones will make a big difference to your braking confidence, at least with the standard 156 horses.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CUP RAcing:
I find the standard brakes on my Ibiza Cupra very poor, its only done 2000 miles, and I have not used the brakes to excess, but find that they just dont fill me with any confidence when I want to use them, the front seems ok, but the back just doesnt seem to brake at the same rate, making the car feel very light at the back, not good when taking a corner at 50 ish.
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