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cordobabrendy
08-09-2001, 00:59
Tell me this and tell me no more plz,
do 2.0 cordoba sx's come standard with gas shocks?
the reason im asking is because i wanted my stiffened up a bit after lowering her 40mm and i went to my local motorfactors and he looked up the sachs parts ref book and said they were already gas!! I carry a lot of computers and gear in my boot and need the stiffer stuff to ensure that it doesnt rub on big bumps.
Also, how common is it to go through a clutch in under 27k miles? & yes i do drive it a bit hard!
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on my gti they are gas front and oil back and you can tell now i've lowered it on springs as the fronts ok but the back dampers can't keep up.
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cordobabrendy
09-09-2001, 10:55
thought summat was up cause mine stays pretty solid at back but front is a bit wobbly on cornering and high speed braking. Even when stationary, u can push the side of car and it will rock a bit, im almost positive that my tyres have something to do with that though, original michelin pilots on back but yoko's a539's at front, the tyre wall on the yoko doesnt seem to be as thick, maybe why it rocks a bit cause the whole motor moves at the front ant the tyres visibly twist a bit almost as if the tyres were semi deflated!! something strage going on....
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Lucky_32
09-09-2001, 12:36
That makes sense - The rear suspension remixes my CD on my Cordie sx with PI springs. My front tyres look deflated too in relation to the rears but they are all 225 35 Pirelli p7000s on 17 inch rims.
Doesn't rock but bouncy over undulating roads.
You can get a Splitfire spring assistor which fits into the coil spring - to act as an additional bump stop and stiffen it up a bit. I've seen them advertised in the Larkspeed catalogue.
Odd to get through a clutch in 27k miles- I've done nearly 30k with 180bhp and also drive a bit hard no clutch problems yet. http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/wink.gif
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cordobabrendy
09-09-2001, 13:06
clutch might not be too bad after all, just seems that bite is very close to the top of the stiffer part of pedal feel, goes very light just above that mark, lucky, u said that you have yours lowered and have 17's on , did you have any bother fitting them, also how bumpy is it with 35 series on, mine is lowered on pi springs 40mm drop and original 16 aluminium alloys and is fairly bumpy on back streets but is brilliant on the motorway, hehe any passengers get seasick on some very undulating roads, esp when not taking it easy!!!!!
whats been done to your sx to get the extra 30 ponies?
induction kit
drilled and grooved discs
greenstuff pads
lowered 40mil
and last but not least Rally Mudflaps (actually look quite nice) get loads of second looks!! it makes the car look wider too!!
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Lucky_32
09-09-2001, 16:40
Mud flaps are a must with the side skirts I've got - chip like buggery mine are black - i did have some white ones but they were too difficult to keep clean.
Ported Head, Fast Road cams, Chipped, Big bore ss exhaust,K&N filter - Usual Oetinger stuff.
It was a SBG demo car built by Mr Burton (now at SJB).
It's supposed to have some induction mods but I can't see them.
225 35's are a bitch http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/biggrin.gif on 7 x 17s (rimstock)- they just fit but have a closer rolling radius to the 16's with 195's than having 205 40's on the 17 inch rim.
Motorways are cool but town driving is a bugger. As it has a F2 front bumper - Multi storey carparks are a no no.
rear passengers are another no no - still once I put a cage in ther'll be no room for them anyway http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/eek.gif http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/wink.gif
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going back to shocks mate ,isn't it a sign of shagged shocks if they bounch when stationary,what i mean is if you press down on the front wing and then let go i thnk that they are supposed to return back up without bouncing i think it's in the haynes manual under the mot bit (as it's a failure point.don't mean to sacre you but worth a look.
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cordobabrendy
09-09-2001, 18:10
nah mate, what i meant was that when i push my car from the side, the alloy seems to move inside the boundries of the tyre, the shocks arnt buggered as the car has only done 26 and a bit thousand,
lucky, the induction bit that you cant see is inside the inlet manifild, its been doctored most likely, hows your 0-60s and top end speed? http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/tongue.gif http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/cool.gif
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cordobabrendy
09-09-2001, 18:14
oops i forgot, does your f2 bumper sit really low or is it cause it sticks out forward a bit more? also any pics of the motor?
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Lucky_32
15-09-2001, 20:27
Increased overhang causes the grounding with the F2 bumper. Need to raise the car http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/eek.gif
Top speed not much different, WRC spoiler slows it down as I have it set at 30 degrees at the moment.
0-60 not sure haven't had it timed. But revs like a bugger http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/biggrin.gif
Oh yes - Vernier timing belts /stuff on the engine as well.
Anyone know where I can get a supercharger?
Eurodynamics used to do one for the 2.0 16v but don't anymore http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/frown.gif
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cordobabrendy
15-09-2001, 20:42
Not looking much!! heheheh
does the supercharger need a lot of moving an modifying any other componensts under the bonnet?? http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/rolleyes.gif 220 bhp you Say???? http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/biggrin.gif
Big smile factor there against the scoobies and turbo motors!! http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/biggrin.gif http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/biggrin.gif http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/biggrin.gif
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Lucky_32
22-09-2001, 22:02
The supercharger bolts on - they are fitted in a day on VR6's. I would imagine a re-map would be recquired.
But it is reversable if you want to get rid of the forced induction.
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cordobabrendy
24-09-2001, 22:10
whats the obvious gains/losses between turbo'ing an engine and supercharging??? sorry daft question but im not too familiar with turbo motors, as my dear granny used to say "dont touch what u cant afford!!!"
Difference in prices etc... http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/confused.gif http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/confused.gif http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/confused.gif http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/confused.gif http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/confused.gif http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/confused.gif http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/confused.gif
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Lucky_32
28-09-2001, 23:58
Supercharged engines don't run as hot.
Easier to fit/remove (a day). No lag.
Belts can slip if you go too far on the tuning.
Fitting a decent supercharger costs about the same as fitting a turbo (2-3K) but with a turbo you can tune it higher (if you don't mind lag city with a rebuild every 1k miles).
Supercharger easier to transfer to another car if you prang it http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/rolleyes.gif
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Boot it.....
ibizacupra
29-09-2001, 09:05
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Lucky_32:
Supercharged engines don't run as hot.
Easier to fit/remove (a day). No lag.
Belts can slip if you go too far on the tuning.
Fitting a decent supercharger costs about the same as fitting a turbo (2-3K) but with a turbo you can tune it higher (if you don't mind lag city with a rebuild every 1k miles).
Supercharger easier to transfer to another car if you prang it http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/rolleyes.gif
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No lag? Not the rule on many of these bolt on chargers. They are centrifugal chargers and develop more boost as the crank rpms rise. PD/Roots/Vane chargers have no lag, but these are'nt the typical conversions around.
Vortech and Z-Engineering are centrifugal chargers.
I have driven a VR6 Mk2 Golf with a Vortech charger on it, and it had the same characteristic power delivery as the motor on which it was bolted too. Just lots more. 270bhp with similar torque. 4K rpm and it really got going, just like VR6 engines.
chargers break more often than turbos... more moving parts, tolerances...
G60 chargers need resealing and servicing every 40-60K miles.
Bill
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[Message edited by ibizacupra on 29 September 2001.]
cordobabrendy
29-09-2001, 17:39
is it possible to get hold of a second hand one, reconditioned or not??? also how much dosh for how much extra power?
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ibizacupra
30-09-2001, 15:27
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by cordobabrendy:
is it possible to get hold of a second hand one, reconditioned or not??? also how much dosh for how much extra power?
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If you want to source a 2nd hand one, try scouring the VW mags for them. There were quite a few VR6's with these conversions done to them.
Nick Saran Racing did the conversions, so you could contact him.
Mick Trulluck of Jabbasport also does superchargers and conversions, so he may well be worth speaking to also.
regards
bill
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cordobabrendy
30-09-2001, 15:34
cheers mate, will have a snoop around!!!
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