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front only
front bumper (primed) 6ll807217agru 115.44
front insert 6ll85366779y 16.85
foglight cover 6ll853665579y 4.63
foglight cover 6ll853666579y 4.63
towing eye cover 6ll80724179y 1.34
Rear bumper 6L6 807 417 Q
Rear Reflectors 6L5 945 105
6L5 945 106
Bumper lower Insert 6LL 807 521
FR upper grills 6l0853676a01c 16.77
6l0853677a01c 17.19
Will get the rest soon
stoneyfordNI
24-11-2005, 22:13
just to add that a cupra towing eye is required as well as the standard item is too short to use with cupra front ends
Right Ok expect me to have a busy weekend, guides coming on this, Front mount fitting, and a few other bits including bumpers. I will speak to mork about getting a sub section of guides done.
im sure prices have now gone up lads, sorry to say :(
Updated price list.
All prices are at retail and including the VAT
Front Bumper, 6LL 807 217 A GRU, £173.24
Front Grille, 6LL 853 667 79Y, £20.16
O/S Fog Cover, 6LL 853 665 79Y, £5.54
N/S Fog Cover, 6LL 853 666 79Y, £5.54
Towing Eye Cover, 6LL 807 241 79Y, £2.91
Rear Bumer, 6LL 807 417 A GRU, £180.05
Lower Spoiler, 6LL 807 521 79Y, £56.78
O/S Reflector, 6L5 945 105, £4.15
N/S Reflector, 6L5 945 106, £4.15
O/S FR Grille, 6L0 853 676 A 01C, £14.40
N/S FR Grille, 6L0 853 677 A 01C, £14.76
T. Spark
23-12-2005, 14:32
Gone up alot aswell.. ouch
Could someone post up a price list and part number for the "Sport" body kit aswell?
Snoopcousins
12-01-2006, 15:39
Got my car back yesterday, got the Cupra front bumper fitted.
I absolutely LOVE it!! It is so much different than the standard FR one. The front of the car looks totally different now, much more meaner.
Ordering the rear bumper now to as got a quote for only £120 for painting and fitting though the bumper will cost around £200 also.
Just running it with the towing eye cover off at the minute as not doing any motorway driving, only slow rush-hour.
Hopefully i will get the FMIC (from Forge) in next couple of months.
I was going to change my car to a Leon Cupra next year which i am still thinking about but no point in getting the FMIC if I am....
I have a lot of thinking to do as really want the Leon Cupra but my car looks like a new car now as well, may just keep it!
Sorry just wanted to let you know how much I like the Cupra bumoers compared to the standard ones and if anyone is thinking of changing the bumpers DO!
Is there problems fitting Cupra bumpers to an FR tdi with the airflow? And also, does the exhaust need to be changed?
YellowFR
15-02-2006, 11:59
Is guides on cupra bumper fitting coming on soon?
Just ordered cupra front bumper-parts for my FR, so a guide would be nice....
Is there problems fitting Cupra bumpers to an FR tdi with the airflow? And also, does the exhaust need to be changed?
unless you are going to go for a FMIC don't bother fitting the Cupra bumpers, or alternatively just fit the face lift FR bumpers due in April, rear is the same and front is Cupra Esque, auto car had to ask if it was a cupra when they tested the new FR. This will enable enough airflow for the side mount and give you cupra esque looks without the FMIC need.
YellowFR
15-02-2006, 12:09
My FR is a 1.8T petrol. Is there a problem with airflow to the standard IC with a cupra front bumper mounted?
yes, put simply, you will need to run around with no drivers side fog light and even that seems silly to me. this subject ha sbeen covere to death over tha last year, so have a search through
Forge will be launching a front mount hopefully end of month or march fo the 1.8T
ibiza_fr_james
15-02-2006, 22:01
would it be possible for someone to do a fitting guide for the cupra front bumber, as i will be fitting mine to a fr.
ps the fmic is sorted, i just need some idea of fitting the bumber
would it be possible for someone to do a fitting guide for the cupra front bumber, as i will be fitting mine to a fr.
ps the fmic is sorted, i just need some idea of fitting the bumber
Just look at the forge guide to taking the front bumper off for fitting the FMIC! Good guide for taking it off, just do the opposite!
It is simple, just have a look when you get it!
You make the guide for everyone looking to fit it next time!;)
James, ain't having the forge, he's got my old one.
PS James, intercooler pipe has all been ordered ( £35 bloody quid so be nice to me) anyway nearly packaged the FMIC up, we got a new fridge at the weekend so all nicely done in polystyrene, however are you ok with me posting saturday as impossible to bring in to work and post,
Not sure ho long the pipe is gonna be, i will check with Dave, but all ordered and paid for.
James, ain't having the forge, he's got my old one.
didnt know forge made bumpers:cartman:
Question was about fitting front cupra bumper! Forge show you how to remove standard bumper in the fitting guide for there FMIC! Gives you an idea how to put cupra bumper on! ;)
ibiza_fr_james
16-02-2006, 12:14
Ant , that should be fine, :) cant wait to get it all fitted
ps i have to wait a while for one of the grills and wiring loom for it ne way
Hi Guys,
Im just waiting for my loan money to come through (£8000) and then Im getting a tdi Sport 130pd. Im loveing the brand new FR's bumpers and wheels. Any idea on the cots involved to bring mine to spec??
cheers,
Nuts
ibiza_fr_james
19-03-2006, 10:55
just thought i would let you know i finally got round to fitting the grills to the cupra bumper. all i can say is what a pain in the arse, took me hours to get it all to lock into place [:@] . i will be fitting it along with the FMIC next saturday.
hi all im new on here, just wondering whats stopping the air getting to the smic with the cupra bumper on. To look at them the cupra looks to have a bigger grill shouldnt this allow more are to get to the smic. If not is there a way of directing the air to the smic without taking the fog light out
Snoopcousins
22-03-2006, 15:09
The fog-light and surround blocks the air-flow. In the original FR bumper there are air-intakes at the same location as the SMIC is directly behind it.
If you open the bonnet you should be able to see the SMIC away in the corner.
I ran mine for a while with the fog-light out but it looked terrible!
Also the left part of the grill on the Cupra bumper is solid whereas the rest is mesh, think this is because of the towing eye cover but seems silly. I know someone on here drilled the solid bits out but not something i would start to do.
I never took my bumper off myself so im not sure whats behind it and if theres another way to direct airflow to the SMIC. I searched this before and only answer seems to be replacing SMIC with a FMIC.
The new face-lift FR bumper would probably be a better bet....
how much air do they need whould a few holes inthe fog light surround be enough or could you direct the air from under the bumper
EdButler
22-03-2006, 16:41
See this thread relating to intake temps witha Cupra Bumper, SMIC and NO Foglights.... It isnt enough cooling by far even though the fog holes are similar sized. Come summer it would get very serious!
Post #7: http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=82096
Anyone know whether the new FR bumpers are the same visually as the cupra bumpers? Basically I want to know if I could fit them to my pre-facelift FR without fitting a FMIC and whether I could still mount a FMIC at a later date?
gazjones
17-04-2006, 11:33
They look roughly the same apart from the fog light area which is slightly larger to allow the air around the fog light to the side mounted intercooler. i was also wondering about fitting the fmic and i dont think it should be a problem as its roughtly the same.
Anyone know whether the new FR bumpers are the same visually as the cupra bumpers? Basically I want to know if I could fit them to my pre-facelift FR without fitting a FMIC and whether I could still mount a FMIC at a later date?
Yes you can retro fit phase 2 bumprs on to the phase 1. The difference is quite big between the Cupra and the new FR. For one thing the Cupra bumper extends the length of the car by a good inch to 2 inches. It also comes down a lot nicer on the front than the FR one.
You could fit a fmic after too, but if you use the seatsport one then you may need to trim the inside of the bumper slighty.
gazjones
17-04-2006, 19:37
saw this todayi thought they had extended the front bumper outwards like thge cupra but they havent its like the old one at the top just bigger grills at the bottom.
ibiza_fr_james
17-04-2006, 21:15
i would say go for the cupra bumbers rather then the new fr ones, the cupra bumbers look so good in the flesh, espically with a big FMIC
I was under the impression that the cupra bumpers and the new fr bumpers were the same but I'm glad to be corrected! looks like I'll have to keep saving and get the FMIC and cupra bumpers at the same time.
I'm looking for a set of cupra bumpers to fit my TDi sport. Where can i get hold of them as when i spoke to seat they knew nothing!!! Also looking for body colourd side strips.
I'm looking for a set of cupra bumpers to fit my TDi sport. Where can i get hold of them as when i spoke to seat they knew nothing!!! Also looking for body colourd side strips.
Useless dealers! Just take the part numbers from this thread and ask them to order for you!
Cheers, and if i were to fit them do i need to have the fmic?
you can get away without, but you would need to leave it standard engine wise, and come summer you may get a few limp modes if you cain it too much, Or another option is to just mesh the foglight grills and opt to leave the foglights out, then you will get some direct air on to the side mount
So has many people fitted the cupra bumpers to their cars? and did you get the fmic? and was it worth it. I'm in the stage where i want them but not sure if its worth all that money!?
Snoopcousins
27-10-2006, 12:31
On my pre-facelift FR TDI, i changed to the Cupra front bumper and ran with it for 3 months with no problems but I think it felt a little more tardy though it may have been in my head!
I tried it with the fog-light out but it looked terrible i thought...
IMO the Cupra bumper is a Lot nicer than the new FR one as the large grill area in t he middle is wider and deeper and looks much meaner especailly on a
Red or Yellow version..
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/snoopcousins/Ibiza%20Pictures/Frontclose.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/snoopcousins/Ibiza%20Pictures/frontbumper-Side.jpg
Snoop, did you get rid of the car with the Cupra bits on?
Snoopcousins
27-10-2006, 12:59
Spyke, yea I did, i traded it in like that for the Leon.
I didnt have the original FR bumper to replace it as someone had reversed into the corner of it which gave me an excuse to change to the Cupra bumpers...
I seen it the other day and was speaking to the bloke who bought it... The dealer sold it on with the same Cupra bumper, obviously not telling the customer of any potential air-flow problems....
Just thought it could have saved me some costs as I am wanting to do this at some point. Oh well.
front only
front bumper (primed) 6ll807217agru 115.44
front insert 6ll85366779y 16.85
foglight cover 6ll853665579y 4.63
foglight cover 6ll853666579y 4.63
towing eye cover 6ll80724179y 1.34
Rear bumper 6L6 807 417 Q
Rear Reflectors 6L5 945 105
6L5 945 106
Bumper lower Insert 6LL 807 521
FR upper grills 6l0853676a01c 16.77
6l0853677a01c 17.19
Will get the rest soon
Are these the parts you have used STOCKY?
don't forget you still need the cupra Towing eye adaptor tooa s the standard one won't fit, which would be a bugger if you needed the car to be towed home or something
stoneyfordNI
28-10-2006, 20:24
last time i checked seat didnt have a part num on etka for this ant , i ended up getting a golf r32 one , works a treat
well i bought one no problems, in fact i still have it in the garage. Ben at motorists cntre sorted mine or me, and its about 3 inches longer than the standard one.
Guys, does anyone have a picture of the front bumper but not on the car?
Any one got pictures of the new/facelift Cupra front and rear bumpers, i've seen '05 Cupra bumpers but not the facelift ones - i've tried searching but came up with nowt!
PJ.
gazjones
30-11-2006, 12:47
cupra bumpers have not changed at all only fr and low spec models
ok, so it's the Cupra ones as pictures earlier in this thread................hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, new bumpers, FMIC, 312mm Brakes......i feel a christmas list coming together!
PJ.
Whats approximate costings of these parts now?
All prices are at retail and including the VAT
Front Bumper, 6LL 807 217 A GRU, £173.24
Front Grille, 6LL 853 667 79Y, £20.16
O/S Fog Cover, 6LL 853 665 79Y, £5.54
N/S Fog Cover, 6LL 853 666 79Y, £5.54
Towing Eye Cover, 6LL 807 241 79Y, £2.91
Rear Bumer, 6LL 807 417 A GRU, £180.05
Lower Spoiler, 6LL 807 521 79Y, £56.78
O/S Reflector, 6L5 945 105, £4.15
N/S Reflector, 6L5 945 106, £4.15
O/S FR Grille, 6L0 853 676 A 01C, £14.40
N/S FR Grille, 6L0 853 677 A 01C, £14.76
is this still an up to date list ? cheers peeps
gazjones
23-01-2007, 21:58
fog grills are looked at them today
so rest should be can check for you though
gazjones
23-01-2007, 22:02
just looked and all part no.s are the same but cant tell on prices but cant se them being much different
Thanks Gaz
Also i've removed my front bumper before and re-fitted that ok, but is the rear bumper easy to do aswell ?
Just to add another problem on fitting the Cupra bumper...:)
Reguarding Ibizas with OEM xenon lights - the Cupra bumper doesn't have the wholes for the headlamp washers, and (to a surprise to me), the bumper doesn't fit because of a bigger washing liquid bottle!
(sorry, I don't know is it cold like that, but i presume u get the idea!)
So the bottle must be replaced with a smaller one from a car without xenon lights!
My Front bumper is cracked on my FR. Can someone post a pic of the facelift FR front bumper so I can see the differences between that and the cupra.
I don't want to fit a FMIC and my car is remapped so I am thinking maybe the facelift FR would be my only viable option. What do you lot think?
Facelift:
http://www.km77.com/marcas/seat/2006/ibiza/gama/med/05.jpg
http://www.dn.no/multimedia/archive/00096/LB-Seat_Ibiza_96092i.jpg
Cupra:
http://www.autogazeta.com/g/401/SeatIbizaCupraR.jpg
http://www.einfach-autos.de/bildergalerie/seat/ibiza/seat-ibiza-1.jpg
I was also thinking of getting a facelift one, but I just didn't like it... And a FMIC was in my plans for the future, so I went for the Cupra one..:)
And if you want to change to a facelift model, your original foglights might not fit (I think they’re different)
How much is the FMIC? I agree that the Cupra bumper looks better, but I reckon the FR facelift will do me. Does anyone have the costs involved to upgrade to the FR facelift bumper?
I've asked at my dealers here in Croatia, the IC is about 310 Euros, and all the pipework is 400+ Euros.
I'm thinking of getting just the IC, and getting the pipework done myself (meaning somewhere else..:) )
Oh, and check this out... http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=72735
Cheers mate. I think I am going to stick with the original SMIC and just fit a facelift FR Front bumper. It will be easier to sell on if its as the manufacturer intended it to be.
Any breakdown on the prices for the FR facelift bumpers?
Anyone, I know its a bit cheeky, but I don't really know what I am asking for at the main dealer... :(
Front bumper for a new Ibiza FR?
So if anyone with a new FR upgrades to a Cupra Front bumper let me know. :)
First post.
Greets from Finland, great forum you got here.
Ordered parts for cupra bumper Ill be fitting my Cordoba asa I get them.
So couple of questions I was just wondering about..
Will the original foglights fit the cupra one (orig cordoba bumper is the same as your prefacelift (non-fr) model ibiza one in case u were wondering)?
And you havent been too bothered about the panelscrews and other tiny little bits´n pieces in your price/part lists, so shouldnt I get them also as were obviously talking about pennies here and a lot less problems with hair falling off from scratching.:blink:
The reason Im bothering you all with my pitty questions is cause I think Im the first to do cupra bumpfit in Finland so not much help here. And also looking forward to flash the local dealer with my preknowledge with this[B)]
And sorry about the language. Seems to be bit rusted from lack of use:redface:
Thanks!!
EdButler
05-04-2007, 10:58
First post.
Greets from Finland, great forum you got here.
Welcome to our domain!! Its great to have more people from oversease here!
Ordered parts for cupra bumper Ill be fitting my Cordoba asa I get them.
So couple of questions I was just wondering about..
Will the original foglights fit the cupra one (orig cordoba bumper is the same as your prefacelift (non-fr) model ibiza one in case u were wondering)?
They are a straight swap, no problems at all.
And you havent been too bothered about the panelscrews and other tiny little bits´n pieces in your price/part lists, so shouldnt I get them also as were obviously talking about pennies here and a lot less problems with hair falling off from scratching.:blink:
The original screws are used for the Cupra bumper also, so no need to worry about getting more. You will only need 2 dark coloured screws for the fog light covers as the original bumpers use clips instead.
The reason Im bothering you all with my pitty questions is cause I think Im the first to do cupra bumpfit in Finland so not much help here. And also looking forward to flash the local dealer with my preknowledge with this[B)]
And sorry about the language. Seems to be bit rusted from lack of use:redface:
Thanks!!
No problems mate, this is what this FAQ is for. Please dont apologise about your English, its better than some of the Brits on here!
PLEASE NOTE: If your engine is Turbocharged, the Cupra bumper will block the airflow from getting to the side intercooler. Taking a fog light out only cures this 25%, you would really need a front mounted intercooler.
Good luck :D
Thanks Ed.. That about does it.
Yeah I did read the earlier posts about that airflow problem.. thou no worries about that as im rocking 1.4-16v sport wopping 100hp :p
Do these ever turn up on ebay or even in this site?
if i was to go for the cupra bumper on my sport will my foglights just swap atraght to the cupra bumper???
Chemical Al
25-04-2007, 13:57
so what are the Part No. for the fr front bumber and grills? (facelift ones)
RichIbizaSport
13-05-2007, 11:24
Hi guys, im new to the forum, so take it easy on me!
Im about to buy an ibiza 1.9tdi sport (pd130) (pre-facelift 52 plate) of my brother on the cheap, but it just so happens that he hit a rather big dear the other day and smashed his front bumper, which is a bonus because i wanted to change it anyway!
I'd like to go with either the facelift FR bumper or the cupra one. Am i right in think the facelift FR front bumper will be a direct fit without having to change any other parts?
What exactly needs changing if i wanted to fit the cupra bumper? would i need a fmic?
Rich,
Spend enough time on this forum and you'll soon be wanting a remap! That means you'll need a FMIC which cant be fitted with the sport bumpers so thats why people put the cupra/facelift fr front bumper on the sports. These bumpers dont work well on your car because the sport's SMIC will get no air-flow.
I think its a case of working out what you money you have to spend and when, and if your not planning to do the work yourself it'll save making more trips to garages than you have to and paying them to take bumpers on+off twice.
And if you decide to go for the fr facelift bumper (so you don't need the fmic), then you need new fog lights because they don't fit from your old bumper (but they fit the cupra bumper)...;)
Worth knowing.
I've had my back end done.
And if you decide to go for the fr facelift bumper (so you don't need the fmic), then you need new fog lights because they don't fit from your old bumper (but they fit the cupra bumper)...;)
Is that a definite?
You might wanna add to the list
6Q0 955 453P fluid container
2D0 955 465B seal
444 955 647 plug
with certain reserves
since I dont know is it just me with my scandinavia spec model or that theyve put in all the models with headlight washers that 4,5litre container and you need the smaller 2litre version to fit the cupra bumber, wont fit it even w/o foglight.
Cheers!
H,
Quick question, is it possible to put 06-07 cupra bumpers onto an 04 SX or would i need the 04 cupra bumpers
Thanks in advance
Ant
P.S. Also would it look silly to have 06-07 bumpers on a 04 car
URGENT HELP NEEDED.....
is it possible to put The new Curpa ibiza bumpers onto a pre-face lift ibiza?? 1.2 12v (no FMIC) to worry about...PLEAAASE reply even if it has beeen previously covered i need confirmation fast !!!!! :confused: :confused::confused::confused:
yes mate, Guiness put one on his!
If anyone changes there facelift front bumper to a cupra bumper let me know. I'll take your old one.
Just buy a new one?? They're only £120 ish...
Oh right, I saw you selling your old stuff and assumed the new stuff would be expensive. Can you tell me the exact price?
New one is about £120 + VAT, you don't need the grills do you?
Painting is £150 or so... got the exact price somewhere...
I have the older bumper, so I am guesing i will need grills and new spots too?
You will need new fogs and grills...
I did this to my Cupra bumper before i fitted it,
from this, all blocked up,
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd36/Altech_2007/P1000051.jpg
to this, after a lot of drilling and filing,
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd36/Altech_2007/P1000071.jpg
I took some measurements from both my old sport bumper and new cupra one. The same amount of air, if not more, should reach the smic and keep it happy:)
Do you know why the bumper isn't like that as standard?
Have no idea mate. I thought that maybe it was like that to give a stronger place to mount the tow eye cover to. It's just as strong now that i've cut it all out.
Looks so much better with it all open now
hey guys..just a bit of advice needed if anyone can help. I'm ordering a new rear bumper for my ibiza sport 05 pd100 and just want to check that the cupra bumper will definitely fit it okay?
also do i need to order both of the following parts to do the whole thing;
Rear Bumer, 6LL 807 417 A GRU
Lower Spoiler, 6LL 807 521 79Y
any help would be appreciated.
Thankyou!
woo never mind, i ordered them and they've arrived at Seat today, hopefully will have the bumper sprayed and fitted by the weekend :D
pics up soon..
josh263uk
13-02-2008, 21:32
Evening all.
Hope this is the right place, What Im after is the part number for the exhaust surround (plastic part) on the rear bumper, but with out the exhaust cut out. Its a 2007 Ibiza.
This is what I have but thinking about going euro and not showing the exhaust.
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w248/josh263uk/DSC00273.jpg
Also if anyone knows a rough price that would be good.
Thanks all.
will the cupra fog light surrounds fit in the space of a 2008 fr and if so how much do they cost and will the original lights just slot in
Nope... fog covers are a different shape, i'll have your fogs though ;)
if i were to get a new cupra front bumper and get the fog lights how would i wire them in? as i have a 1.2 ibiza the base version i think, i dont have fog lights on my car, so theres no switch for it, so how would it work??
I can get a rear bumper for about £130 ish, is this good?
And a front bumper for about £160?
hon_n_gem
04-07-2008, 17:15
yes they are good prices, but do they include the grills, spoilers etc?!
where do they come from!?
Dont know about grills, but what you mean by spoilers?
And from..... a place :lol:
Will post it up in a while, to see if they are legit etc first
hon_n_gem
05-07-2008, 08:01
as in the lower part of the rear bumper?! the plastic bits
Ah right, will find that out when i find out about grills :)
air121005
28-07-2008, 20:23
Rich,
That means you'll need a FMIC which cant be fitted with the sport bumpers so thats why people put the cupra/facelift fr front bumper on the sports
:confused:.......
i fitted my forge FMIC fine behind the standard sport front bumper
are these part numbers below for the bumper pictured lower down?
Rear Bumer, 6LL 807 417 A GRU
Lower Spoiler, 6LL 807 521 79Y
Evening all.
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w248/josh263uk/DSC00273.jpg
if anyone upgrades thier bumpers id like your prefacelift one PM me :D
air121005
28-07-2008, 21:43
if anyone upgrades thier bumpers id like your prefacelift one PM me :D
i'm only looking at a new rear bumper because i got rear-eneded last weekend [:@]
hoping the repair centre will order the facelift cupra version if i give them the part numbers :shrug:
yeah i ionly want a prefacelift bumper so i can do some smoothing practise on :D
air121005
28-07-2008, 22:23
yeah i ionly want a prefacelift bumper so i can do some smoothing practise on :D
I'll see if they let me keep the broken one;)
how broken is it :cartman: because id probably smooth it and then use it :D
air121005
28-07-2008, 22:56
how broken is it :cartman: because id probably smooth it and then use it :D
when i got hit, it must have pushed the plastic in and it "popped" back out as you can see where the lacquer has come away from the paint / bumper when the plastic was momentarily creased.
visually its not cracked, but i want a new replacement!
anyway, thought you wanted something to practice on :p, this will be a challenge!
when i got hit, it must have pushed the plastic in and it "popped" back out as you can see where the lacquer has come away from the paint / bumper when the plastic was momentarily creased.
visually its not cracked, but i want a new replacement!
anyway, thought you wanted something to practice on :p, this will be a challenge!
:D roll on the challenge;)
llamafarmer
04-08-2008, 20:02
Hi guys, I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to exterior styling mods, so I need a bit of advice. There's a fair bit of info on here to sift through and I'm not sure I can work out exactly what I need.
I'd like to put a facelift FR kit on my 05 FR PD 130 - would I need new fogs? Would there be any intercooler issues to consider? Would the rear bumper fit around my exhaust? Yeah, I'm clueless!
Yes you will need new fogs for the facelift FR bumper. I think they're about £150 each from Seat so not cheap! I've read on here that certain fog lights from Leons will fit which you can buy off ebay a bit cheaper. Pre facelift fogs are compatible with the cupra bumper however.
Your intercooler will be fine with the FR facelift bumper. Problems only occur with the cupra front bumper as the front grille is restrictive. I got around this by filing out all the blocked up parts in the grille to allow airflow to the intercooler.
The facelift rear bumper should easily fit around your current exhaust. I don't think Seat would have redesigned the exhaust to fit differently on the facelift model. If it doesn't then i'm sure it could be adjusted. Hope that helps :)
So for the record, is there any difference between the FR and the standard facelift front bumper?
The FR front bumper has larger honeycombs in the grilles. Also the area behind the number plate is black plastic (same colour as the grilles) and not body coloured like the standard facelift ones.
You can however make a standard facelift one look like an FR one by painting the number plate part the same colour as the grilles, and also fitting the larger honeycomb grilles.
LandanSam
05-10-2008, 18:54
Lads, im slightly confused.. what would i have to order? The bumpers? Then the foglight adapter things? Anything else? I'd like to look into getting the face lift bumpers but have no idea what to order.. Can some clarify the part numbers for me to please?
Thanks
Sam!!
Anyone got any pictures of a cupra front bumper with different size number plates on it i.e square number plate etc?
Can I just confirm the facelift FR rear bumper is the same as the Cupra then?
Can I just confirm the facelift FR rear bumper is the same as the Cupra then?
100% yes they're the same
Thank you very much. I'll pass the part numbers onto the bodyshop then. :)
Sorry to darg this thread up again, but don't think this question was asked; Will my 2005 (54) Ibiza Sport Tdi PD110 upper grilles fit into the cupra bumper? I don't wasn't to have to buy upper grilles unless necessary!
Thanks!
P.S. - Anyone one here working for a dealer fancy updating the price list?
air121005
04-03-2009, 11:51
Sorry to darg this thread up again, but don't think this question was asked; Will my 2005 (54) Ibiza Sport Tdi PD110 upper grilles fit into the cupra bumper? I don't wasn't to have to buy upper grilles unless necessary!
Thanks!
P.S. - Anyone one here working for a dealer fancy updating the price list?
they should do ;)
fozworth
08-03-2009, 12:31
Hi just wounderd if anyone has fited a non genuine face lift front and rear bumper as the fronts are only 75 quid but if there not a good fit then i wont waist my wonga.
I have only seen a few Mk4s with aftermarket bodykits fitted. I've heard of the non genuine ones but haven't seen a car with them fitted.
They are probably made from fibre glass and may fit poorly. Have a look on ebay...sometimes genuine facelift front bumpers can be picked up as cheap as 30 quid! The facelift FR rear bumper (like the one in my sig pic) are normally very hard to find.
fozworth
09-03-2009, 19:13
I know that somewhere the information will be presant but i have looked and would just like to clarify that im correct in thinking that the face lift rear bumper for the cupra and FR tdi are the same and that the rest of the range are slightly different.I only ask as im in the process of lookinhg to buy this week and most breakers say they are the same but im sure there not.If i have to i will buy new which leads me on to my next question .Is any one offering the rear cupra/FR bumper at a better price than £167+vat plus theres the splitter at £50 odd plus the dreaded. Just dont want to shell out this much if i dont have to.
Hope this isnt seen as a waist of thread space ,cheers all.
fozworth
09-03-2009, 19:25
Ok answerd first of my own questions the FR/Cupra rear ones are different than the std facelift rear ,so just need to know if theres any better price deals going.
The Facelift FR and Cupra rear bumper are the same yes. I looked on ebay for over a year for one and only 3 were advertised in that time. Luckily one's on my car now!
The Facelift FR front bumper is the same as a normal facelift bumper....However the FR has different grilles. Normal facelift bumpers can be picked up cheap off ebay....then buy the FR grilles new from Seat and fit them.
fozworth
09-03-2009, 21:41
Thanks mate gutted about the cost of the rear bumper but it does look v.nice
Mattwood
11-03-2009, 13:50
hi there,
ive just bought an 04 (so pre-facelift) ibiza FR :D and i want to get a cupra front, but i cant afford the fmic at the moment...but ive seen people get round the airflow restricion to the smic by filing out the grille on the cupras....what im wondering is; is it possible to get a cupra bumper and put a facelift FR centre grille in? and would this get round the airflow problem? sorry if its been asked before...
hi there,
ive just bought an 04 (so pre-facelift) ibiza FR :D and i want to get a cupra front, but i cant afford the fmic at the moment...but ive seen people get round the airflow restricion to the smic by filing out the grille on the cupras....what im wondering is; is it possible to get a cupra bumper and put a facelift FR centre grille in? and would this get round the airflow problem? sorry if its been asked before...
No the FR main front grille won't fit a Cupra bumper. I was the first member on here to modify my Cupra front grille and it has worked fine for over a year. If anything a modified Cupra grille will allow more air to the smic than the standard pre-facelift bumper.
fozworth
13-03-2009, 22:05
Hi just woundered if there is anyone or any way you can fit the pre face lift fog lights to the facelift front bumper.As no aftermarket part suplyer sells these yet and im not paying the £150 quid that seat want for a new pair!!
fozworth
14-03-2009, 15:30
Is there anyway that i can fit my exsisting FR fog lights to my new face lift bumper can brackets be made has anyone done this ?
Is there anyway that i can fit my exsisting FR fog lights to my new face lift bumper can brackets be made has anyone done this ?
Some people have bodged them on with cable ties. I think part of the bumper will need cutting away if you want to fit your existing ones.
fozworth
14-03-2009, 16:48
I have access to some brackets etc,so will try and see if its poss.I wont be using cable ties though nor will i pay 150 quid as its a total ripoff for some lights,hopfuly they will start to make pattern part ones soon.Also is there anything else i need to fit my face lift bumpers to the car or do all brackets on the car match.Do you need new screws/clips if at all?
sorry for all the questions but just want to be sure i have all parts needed before hand
I have access to some brackets etc,so will try and see if its poss.I wont be using cable ties though nor will i pay 150 quid as its a total ripoff for some lights,hopfuly they will start to make pattern part ones soon.Also is there anything else i need to fit my face lift bumpers to the car or do all brackets on the car match.Do you need new screws/clips if at all?
sorry for all the questions but just want to be sure i have all parts needed before hand
I believe some Seat Leon fogs are the same as facelift Ibiza fogs. Have a look on ebay and you might find some cheaper.
All the brackets etc match up and you use all your existing screws and clips to fit it.
i have recently purchased a 02 1.4 sport and wanted to know if the pre-facelift fr grills fit the standard pre-facelift front bumper?? and will the pre-facelift fr rear valance (with exhaust cut out) fit the standard pre-facelift rear bumper?? apologies for the amount of pre's!! cheers.
i have recently purchased a 02 1.4 sport and wanted to know if the pre-facelift fr grills fit the standard pre-facelift front bumper?? and will the pre-facelift fr rear valance (with exhaust cut out) fit the standard pre-facelift rear bumper?? apologies for the amount of pre's!! cheers.
Yes and yes!
sweet! - muchas gracias!!!
fozworth
16-03-2009, 19:36
Right guys can any one tell me definatly if its the seat leon 06 onwards front fogs that are the same as the facelift ibiza front fogs,as i realy dont want to order the incorrect ones and go through the whole process of returns,cheers jamie
i was reading some of the posts for this subject and just wondering how much would it be for a fr rear bumper and where would i get one a good price new or used dont matter any help would be great
Hello again! I managed to source myself a cupra bumper WoOt!!
http://i16.ebayimg.com/02/i/001/3b/3f/9afe_1.JPG
It's in great condition, couple of scuffs from being handled but I'll get it painted when I source a Rear Cupra/FR bumper! I went to seat and bought the foglight covers and the towing eye cover that the bumper is missing.
Quick question though - I read earlier in this thread that the foglight covers will need 2 screws to secure them to the bumper? What size screws will I need toget for this? I thought they might have clipped on?
Hi there iv just got a mk4 cupra bumper for my beeza and it turns out my old fogs dont fit.
Will i need new cupra fogs? If so can you give me the part no.
Cheers ;)
ossie-marc
18-05-2009, 17:08
hi there i am looking to change my bumber
i have a 1.2 seat ibiza mk4 on a 53 plate it has the prefacelift bumber on at the moment
and i wonted to know weather a facelifted bumber would fit
plz help and answer if already answered somewhere else need a deffinant answer before i spend the money
thanks a lot in advance
marc
right so theres no point getting a cupra bumper on my TDi Sport because it wont deliver enough air flow? but i like the way they look :(
ossie-marc
01-06-2009, 10:40
help plz
i have just resived a fr frount bumber
but for some reson on the bottom part of it were the bottom grill goses and fog lights there is only one pices of plastic comeing down intead of 2 is this right and how do i get the other one
thanks marc
right so theres no point getting a cupra bumper on my TDi Sport because it wont deliver enough air flow? but i like the way they look :(
I've been running a Cupra bumper on my PD130 Sport without problems for nearly 2 years. However I had to modify the main front grille to allow air to the smic. It's fairly easy to do and now I reckon airflow to my smic has increased.
Whitechapel
04-06-2009, 12:28
i have a 2007 facelift model, just wondering, would just replacing the rear bumper with a cupra bumper look alright and keep the front bumper standard?
has anyone done this?
Rear bumper 6L6 807 417 Q
Rear Reflectors 6L5 945 105
6L5 945 106
Bumper lower Insert 6LL 807 521
could i just order all these and do a straight swap?
look to the photo for my bumper cupra
that sentence, I can not even upload pictures, as it can show
a greeting.
buscar
Breezapom
07-06-2009, 22:46
i have a 2007 facelift model, just wondering, would just replacing the rear bumper with a cupra bumper look alright and keep the front bumper standard?
has anyone done this?
Rear bumper 6L6 807 417 Q
Rear Reflectors 6L5 945 105
6L5 945 106
Bumper lower Insert 6LL 807 521
could i just order all these and do a straight swap?
your idea is how the facelift Fr is it has a front bumper similar to yours and has the cupra/fr bumper look at my car if your confused
Hey I got a 2008 ibiza cupra and i really want to get the aero kit but just the front bumper. Where can I get it from? I live in the UAE. any suggestions?
thanx
Ibiza_Oz
27-07-2009, 15:32
Is it possible to change my standard 1.2 sx mk4 front bumper and upgrade it to a cupra bumper ? if so is this straight forward change or will i need extra ?
Oz
air121005
28-07-2009, 07:45
Is it possible to change my standard 1.2 sx mk4 front bumper and upgrade it to a cupra bumper ? if so is this straight forward change or will i need extra ?
Oz
the bumper will fit straight on....... foglights might be an issue though....
Ibiza_Oz
28-07-2009, 08:31
the bumper will fit straight on....... foglights might be an issue though....
Ah good stuff cheers, regarding foglights ? hows that ? are they allocated same place as the mk4 sx ?
Anyone no where i can pick up the splitter from ? or am i looking at a seat dealer jobby
Oz
Placement will be the same - But there are two types of foglight. The Cupra bumper needs the round faced (Convex) foglights whereas the facelift Mk4 FR bumper has flat angled foglights.
What age is your car?
P.S.
By splitter do you mean the LCR splitter? Then yes, probably the cheapest place you will get it will be the dealers (There are people selling them on eBay for £40 plus shipping...)
air121005
28-07-2009, 12:46
Ah good stuff cheers, regarding foglights ? hows that ? are they allocated same place as the mk4 sx ?
Anyone no where i can pick up the splitter from ? or am i looking at a seat dealer jobby
Oz
Leon Cupra R splitter is a common "add-on" for a MK.4 Ibiza.
A quick search in the MK.4 section will yield the "how too guide" you require......... however on the Facelift Ibiza front bumper it looks a very bad add-on IMO!
Looks.............. bodged!!!!:ban:
Ibiza_Oz
28-07-2009, 15:16
Placement will be the same - But there are two types of foglight. The Cupra bumper needs the round faced (Convex) foglights whereas the facelift Mk4 FR bumper has flat angled foglights.
What age is your car?
P.S.
By splitter do you mean the LCR splitter? Then yes, probably the cheapest place you will get it will be the dealers (There are people selling them on eBay for £40 plus shipping...)
I have the 04plate 1.2 sx hopefully will find one at a good price, cheers for the help lads
calumbalding
08-09-2009, 13:38
hi just bought a 1.6 stylance- in red, on quite a tight budget but looking to making it look a bit more sporty ANY SUGGESTIONS? I was thinking about putting FR front and rear bumpers on are these easy to change ? and possibly powder coating the wheels?
please HELP!!!
hi iv had my tdi sport a while and have decided i need a new front end as i have just got a cupra rear. apart from dealers where can i get a cupra front bumper, would also consider a facelift fr if it was complete with fogs as i am not willing to pa 150 for fogs
air121005
24-12-2009, 08:43
hi iv had my tdi sport a while and have decided i need a new front end as i have just got a cupra rear. apart from dealers where can i get a cupra front bumper, would also consider a facelift fr if it was complete with fogs as i am not willing to pa 150 for fogs
they come up on ebay quite regular;)
hi i just bought a facelift front bumper tht ws slightly damaged. does any1 no where to get all the front fr grills from cheapest. also the facelift foglights as i heard thy were different, will leon cupra fogs fit the bumper
jonny_mcc
08-02-2010, 21:49
I'm in the same boat. Just bought a fr bumper with none of the lower grilles.
Can't find the lower grille part numbers. Can anyone help??
Cheers
Thinking about doing the cupra upgrades to my TDI 130 sport so went to the dealers today.
Here is an updated price list (18/02/2010).
All prices are at retail and DONT INCLUDE VAT.:(
Front Bumper, 6LL 807 217 A GRU, £184.06
Front Grille, 6LL 853 667 79Y, £18.94
O/S Fog Cover, 6LL 853 665 79Y, £5.85
N/S Fog Cover, 6LL 853 666 79Y, £5.85
Towing Eye Cover, 6LL 807 241 79Y, £3.45
Rear Bumer, 6LL 807 417 A GRU, £191.14
Lower Spoiler, 6LL 807 521 79Y, £60.54
O/S Reflector, 6L5 945 105, £4.60
N/S Reflector, 6L5 945 106, £4.60
The rear bumper is more expensive than the front so not really sure what to do.
I have the standard tdi (hidden) exhaust and am worried that this will look silly with the cupra exhaust cutout. I am thinking about going for just a facelift rear bumper instead.
Can I have peoples thoughts/recomendations on how this would look, should I buy both the cupra front and rear?
Tom
Thinking about doing the cupra upgrades to my TDI 130 sport so went to the dealers today.
Here is an updated price list (18/02/2010).
All prices are at retail and DONT INCLUDE VAT.:(
Front Bumper, 6LL 807 217 A GRU, £184.06
Front Grille, 6LL 853 667 79Y, £18.94
O/S Fog Cover, 6LL 853 665 79Y, £5.85
N/S Fog Cover, 6LL 853 666 79Y, £5.85
Towing Eye Cover, 6LL 807 241 79Y, £3.45
Rear Bumer, 6LL 807 417 A GRU, £191.14
Lower Spoiler, 6LL 807 521 79Y, £60.54
O/S Reflector, 6L5 945 105, £4.60
N/S Reflector, 6L5 945 106, £4.60
The rear bumper is more expensive than the front so not really sure what to do.
I have the standard tdi (hidden) exhaust and am worried that this will look silly with the cupra exhaust cutout. I am thinking about going for just a facelift rear bumper instead.
Can I have peoples thoughts/recomendations on how this would look, should I buy both the cupra front and rear?
Tom
I believe Facelift Cupra/FR rear bumpers come with the lower spoiler already attached and included in the price.
Your hidden exhaust would look weird with a Facelift Cupra/FR rear bumper as the exhaust cut out is huge. You could easily have your exhaust system changed to suit.
If you're going for a Cupra front bumper then defo go for a Facelift Cupra/FR rear bumper too. The front Cupra bumper is much lower than an Facelift front FR bumper so looks out of place without the matching rear bumper. You can get away with a facelift FR front and normal Facelift rear as there is not much height difference.
jonny_mcc
09-03-2010, 13:21
Just tried to fit my fr front bumper last nite however there seems to be a section missing.
It is the section that connects the top centre grill to the top of the slam panel (has a black plastic cover that goes over the slam panel and is torqued screwed on)
Is this a seperate part? Dunno if i can take it off my pre facelift bumper. Looks like it's plastic welded on.
J
The part you've described should have come fitted to the bumper. You should be able to use the one off your old bumper....just a bit of plastic welding needed.
Random1989
16-03-2010, 08:37
If there's anyone thats upgrading to cupra bumpers from facelift bumpers and want to swap fog lights let me know i'm upgrading from preface and there the same fog ligths as the cupra's. please let me know thank you
on my 130 sport ive had fitted a cupra bumper! its never fitted 100% perfect under the headlights ! it sticks out a small bit on both corners where the headlights stop and the side arches start!
they do pop into place but they pop back out if you look to hard at them!
ive cut out the usual mount that needs removed for the forge front mount intercooler, and trimmed the black plastics at both corners to make it fit better but its just not working! more so on the drivers side!
any suggestions folks!
My driver side corner used to stick out. I loosened the screws in the wheel arch and the one screw that goes upright into the wing. I then got a mate to push the bumper in flush whilst I tightened the screws.
If that doesn't work for you, you may need to remove the whole bumper and adjust the bumper guides that are screwed to the wing.
Love the mods u done to ur car
Wilson889
09-06-2011, 22:53
Hi, I have just bought a 2005 Ibiza fr tdi and I really don't like the front bumper, I want something looking mean! Anyways will a bumper from a 10plate car fit or is it only the mk4s that will fit the pre facelift model? Cheers for any replys
Random1989
10-06-2011, 08:22
I'd say no on the 10plate but the facelift mk4 will fit and they look alot meaner especially the cupra version.
Hi Guys,
Did a quik search for this but couldnt see anything abvious,
Basically I have an Ibiza cupra, can i fit the facelift FR grilles onto this or will i need the facelift fr bumper?
Thanks alot :D
Z
This will sound like a dumb question, probably because it's been asked a gazillion times over...
Can anyone tell me if pre-facelift fr front bumper grilles will fit into a pre-facelift normal bumper (Not fr).
Also, part numbers for those grilles if known.
Thanks! =)
Yes they will fit mate, all the top grilles are interchangeable. Bottom ones are different as only facelift can be swapped for facelift and same with prefacelift, due to the different shape of the bumpers.
LOWER CENTRE GRILLE 6L0853667C01C £16
LEFT UPPER GRILLE 6L0853677A01C £8.25
RIGHT UPPER GRILLE 6L0853676A01C £8.25
Prices from Sere.
Thanks for the speedy response! Are the pre-facelift FR's, honeycomb on the bottom?
Thanks for the speedy response! Are the pre-facelift FR's, honeycomb on the bottom?
Small honeycomb :)
Does anyone have pictures of a cupra bumper (pre facelift) with pre facelift\facelift top FR grilles?