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andy_gdon
24-11-2005, 23:55
I have Eibach springs and standard dampers.
Fitting was eay peasey and it skinned me £130.
That was 20,000 miles ago and i can honestly say that the dampers are shagged!!
So....onwards and upwards (well, downwards actually :D ). Just about to order a set of FK Silver line X's. There are 4 different options with FK Coilovers:-
Highsport Coilover Kits:
This is our most popular and best selling coilover suspension kit, which features top quality at an extremely competitive price. It has fixed dampening tuned by FK which is described as a sporty ride that is firm but comfortable. The ideal suspension kit for customers who want a suspension setup that has been tuned by the FK engineering department's experience. During extensive test drives during development, it is possible to develop the springs and shock matching to your car - a perfect setup as a result. Of coures, the ride height and attitude can be accurately adjusted.
The struts are Zinc Plated Steel for protection against road salts.
+ Height adjustable on car
+ TüV approved for safety upto 85mm
+ Made in Germany
+ Includes C-Spanners and protective aerosol
+ Zinc Plated Steel
Königsport Coilover Kits:
The flagship range of FK Coilover Suspension Kits. Featuring special shock absorbers which feature adjustable dampening for maximum tuneability. The ideal suspension kit for the driver who wants the height to be adjustable and at the same time, dampening to be separately adjustable. This suspension can be adapted to your own personal preferences and driving experiences, due to the adjustable dampening shock absorbers. Also body roll of the car can be considerably influenced through dampening.
The struts are Zinc Plated Steel for protection against road salts.
+ Height adjustable on car
+ Koni strut inserts (dampening adjustable)
+ TüV approved for safety upto 85mm
+ Made in Germany
+ Includes C-Spanners and protective aerosol
+ Zinc Plated Steel
Silverline Coilover Kits:
This is our most popular and best selling coilover suspension kit, which features top quality at an extremely competitive price. It has fixed dampening tuned by FK which is described as a sporty ride that is firm but comfortable. The ideal suspension kit for customers who want a suspension setup that has been tuned by the FK engineering department's experience. During extensive test drives during development, it is possible to develop the springs and shock matching to your car - a perfect setup as a result. Of coures, the ride height and attitude can be accurately adjusted.
The struts are made from Stainless Steel to eliminate corrosion from UK road salts. The strut housing is guaranteed for life. Looks great from any angle.
+ Height adjustable on car
+ TüV approved for safety upto 85mm
+ Made in Germany
+ Includes C-Spanners and protective aerosol
+ Stainless Steel
+ Lifetime Guarantee
Silverline X Coilover Kits:
The flagship range of FK Coilover Suspension Kits. Featuring special shock absorbers which feature adjustable dampening for maximum tuneability. The ideal suspension kit for the driver who wants the height to be adjustable and at the same time, dampening to be separately adjustable. This suspension can be adapted to your own personal preferences and driving experiences, due to the adjustable dampening shock absorbers. Also body roll of the car can be considerably influenced through dampening.
The struts are made from Stainless Steel to eliminate corrosion from UK road salts. The strut housing is guaranteed for life. Looks great from any angle.
+ Height adjustable on car
+ Koni strut inserts (dampening adjustable)
+ TüV approved for safety upto 85mm
+ Made in Germany
+ Includes C-Spanners and protective aerosol
+ Stainless Steel
+ Lifetime Guarantee
I can get these at very good prices-cheaper than ive seen anywhere else. For example was told £530 for the Silverline X's tonight.
Im getting a better list of prices etc tomorrow for the MK so ill update then.
andy_gdon
25-11-2005, 12:55
TTT
Can this be made a sticky please??
stoneyfordNI
25-11-2005, 16:45
can also say that when lowering any mk4 ( tdi in my experience) with 30K + onit , it would be worthwhile to change the front top mounts , when i refitted koni adjustables on mine (more later) the mounts fell apart luckily i had them already ordered , a few people on here have had them replaced under warranty from wat ive heard .
6Q0412331B front strut top mounting (2 required at 9.23 each plus VAT)
6N0412249C front strut top bearing (2 required at 7.95 each plus VAT)
these are 4 my diesel engined car , dunno if petrol varients are similar
koni adjustable shocks are a good job as well if u dont want to go down the coilover route. on the front they are top adjustable , from softer than standard to hard as fook , the rears are quite hard to adjust as they need to be removed to do so , nothing major in that tho , personally . i have these installed along with spax SSX springs , and the ride altho firm is comfortable and the car corners smoothly , and progressively , with little roll
Triple D
28-11-2005, 15:28
I had my sachs kit fitted today and first impresions are good, its lowered nicely, ride is quite a bit firmer than the standard ones and seems to turn in alot better. I haven't beenable to realy try them yet as the roads are wet and greasy so cant wait to see what theyre like in the dry. ill get some pics at the weekend aslong as its dry and not too cold.
muddyboots
04-12-2005, 20:36
My How-To guide on changing suspension:
http://www.seat-ibiza-mk4.co.uk/links.htm
If you're thinking of doing it yourself, have a read of this first ;)
Ibiza Evo 2
19-02-2006, 00:37
Here is an image from my fr lowered with KW variant 1.The back is at the lowest setting and the front has still a little tread left.
http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/3271/dsc01039a8ni.jpg
How much did you pay for the coilovers???
The car looks niiiiiiiiice
Ibiza Evo 2
31-03-2006, 10:28
Around 960,so 663£ ;)
Free fitting.
djrichard
03-04-2006, 18:30
Ive had KW Variant 2's on my car for about 12000 miles now. Front bushes were gubbed completely. Had Powerflex bushes installed today and there is an immediate and DRAMATIC improvement.
Star Performance installed them for me. Im not sure if they believed me when I said that my wheels had a huge amount of movement in them. Whenever I put my foot on one of my wheel spokes I could easily make the wheel move about an inch in total. If I went down even the slightest of dips in a road or turned right hard then my wheel would rub in the arches. It was far worse on the drivers side. In fact it used to rub so badly that all the plastic on the inside of my drivers side wheel arch has rubbed away, not doing my tyres any favours there!
Now when I put my weight on the spokes the wheel does not move at all. The car changes direction instantly whereas before there was a very slight delay as the give in the old bushes was taken up. (badly explained but you get the idea!)
On the way home I was throwing the car around a lot quite aggresively trying to see if i could induce some trye rub. So far it has not rubbed!
Very very happy and my only regret is that I took so long to actually get it done.
Thanks to the Star Performance lads for doing another professional job.
stoneyfordNI
03-04-2006, 19:50
wat bushes did u get done , front or rear lower subframe ones
djrichard
04-04-2006, 00:20
wat bushes did u get done , front or rear lower subframe ones
Ummm not 100% sure on this. This is what it says on my receipt.....
2 x Front Rear Wishbone Bushes
2 x Front Wishbone Bush Front
Never got anything on the rear of the car as there was no problem with them.
muddyboots
04-04-2006, 07:23
That means all 4 front wishbone bushes ;)
djrichard
04-04-2006, 11:27
Oh think this might be worth a mention. Jim Curley @ Star Performance noticed something yesterday for the first time. When changing the bushes on my PD100 S he discovered that the PD160 Cupra has different and better bushes than mine. He said it would be a possible OEM upgrade for anyone who was needing new bushes or simply wanting to upgrade them.
muddyboots
04-04-2006, 12:04
Yes that's right, I bought Devonmikeyboy's front suspension bushes/brackets off his rolled Cupra 160; instead of the voided bushes on my Sport it had solid-looking bushes.
Not sure if they were only fitted to Cupras, or were an improved item fitted to all later models...
scottmk1
04-04-2006, 18:14
My 04 plate cupra has the solid bushes, so it would seem Cupras had them from the start?
Yes that's right, I bought Devonmikeyboy's front suspension bushes/brackets off his rolled Cupra 160; instead of the voided bushes on my Sport it had solid-looking bushes.
Not sure if they were only fitted to Cupras, or were an improved item fitted to all later models...
All the FR's and Cupra's have the solid one's now. Mine will have come saturday + 20mm ARB and powerflex front bushes:funk:
have you got part no's for the front suspension bushes?
I've just got back from a service today and was warned that 'Front Suspension Wishbone Bushes Split'. Is it worth upgrading to Powerflex?
RichieRich
18-04-2006, 23:07
hey guys how much are the cupra front brushes? if im gettin new suspension i may aswell upgrade this at the same time im guessing.. hopefully see my mate at the garage and see if he will price the job up (i delt it but its worth an ask) lol has any1 been able to sell ur old suspension or have u put it to the back of the garage?
I wanna buy a suspension kit !
Most coilovers ive seen start from a 45mm drop! r there any other kits out there that offer a 40mm drop ?
RichieRich
01-07-2006, 11:39
im sure ive seen some and what is .5cm? would u really notice it? i think ive seen some kits start at 30mm drop on ebay before and the kits have come off the race circuit background so should be quite hard.... have u looked on europerformance.co.uk?
My FK's will drop between 30 and 120mm,
im sure ive seen some and what is .5cm? would u really notice it? i think ive seen some kits start at 30mm drop on ebay before and the kits have come off the race circuit background so should be quite hard.... have u looked on europerformance.co.uk?
yeh ill have a butchers ;)
Where did u get ur fk's from sisson?
Had a lil play today after gettin my koni kit fitted and im well happy. There just no roll now, also thought id have to compromise the comfort for the handling but i have both :funk: awesome
gazjones
23-08-2006, 19:51
has anyone uprated an fr 20vt front anti roll bar to the cupra one as i think in going to try this before uprating the whole suspention and is there any other rear arb's out the apart from the jabba one?
:help: hey guys been reading through all the posts but didnt really find anything so wondering if anyonne can help, ive got the new facelift mk4, are all the parts i need to order the same as the 02 onwards model? and if so whaa lowering springs have peeps bought and would recommend i dont need all the rest of the arm just the lowered springs, plz help,thanx aldibal
stoneyfordNI
25-08-2006, 19:51
eibach
@gaz
go all out and fit the fabia VRS bar , its 1mm bigger still, tho id still fit eibach springs and koni shocks if the budget will stretch , makes a huge difference along with a seatsport strut brace ,
gazjones
25-08-2006, 23:41
ah right so the fabia one is the best of the bunch how much are these roughly do you know and is the koni shockes and eibach springs sold as a kit by koni? just we deal with them at work!
stoneyfordNI
25-08-2006, 23:48
nope youll need to source them indivudually ,
price on ARB is unknown- kyle gimme one ( ARB i mean)
Had a lil play today after gettin my koni kit fitted and im well happy. There just no roll now, also thought id have to compromise the comfort for the handling but i have both :funk: awesome
You wouldn't have a pic of your car from the side, like too see the stance.. Is it the koni's 30mm setup (I think referred as typ 1130)?
I'm thinking of that set or fk-königsport to replace my h&r springs -35mm and stock sport tdi shocks (new), which are not fun to drive. Front end is bouncy and rear end feels like it's a hinge. Fk would be high adjustable, but can't lower the car too much any way, and difference in price is about 160-179£.. Any suggestions to help my decision? Comments on ride comfort specially would be appreciated..
You wouldn't have a pic of your car from the side, like too see the stance.. Is it the koni's 30mm setup (I think referred as typ 1130)?
I'm thinking of that set or fk-königsport to replace my h&r springs -35mm and stock sport tdi shocks (new), which are not fun to drive. Front end is bouncy and rear end feels like it's a hinge. Fk would be high adjustable, but can't lower the car too much any way, and difference in price is about 160-179£.. Any suggestions to help my decision? Comments on ride comfort specially would be appreciated..
I have not got any pictures of my car but i can also vouch for the improved ride quality of the Koni Sport kit. I changed mine about 5 months ago and the suspension seems perfectly matched to the car now. The front dampers are on the softest setting (as i have a strut brace) and the rears are always on their softest setting. The car is much more 'planted' round corners now as the rear was a bit skittish with just one person in the car.
gazjones
30-08-2006, 20:07
bunnin has the same kit as that and he was catching me on corners the other day as ive got standard suspention and its a great drop!!! im looking into this same kit!
Hi guys,
Got a Ibiza FR 130 and wondered what I might need to change to get the Fabia ride quality? Or come to that better than fabia ride.
I assume that its all springs and shocks?
But reading this could it be arb's?
what makes you think the fabia handles better?
the fabia does have a thicker front ARB but it makes it understeer alot.
RichieRich
31-08-2006, 23:34
hey guys if i brought a set of arb's from eibach would that be a more worth while kit to the koni shockes and eibach springs? how much drop do u have on these springs and is the back higher than the front? and would this kit be ok on the 1.4's? thanks any help would be good!
G!zmond0
15-09-2006, 08:06
In my experience the best suspention is "Bilstein B16"upside down technology,height adjustable.My friend and I both have ibiza cupra 1.9 tdi.We tryed "eibah" and didn't like it.With Bilstein b 16 it's like a different car.It's incredible,very stable,perfectly stable.It's like you are drawing on the road.That's the best there is.
Here is my suspension upgrade :happy:
H&R 29325-2 Coilover.
H&R 33325-1 Anti roll bar.
H&R 30255571 Wheel Spacers & Bolts.
Powerflex PFF85-603 Anti roll bar bushes.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/fernandes/goodies.jpg
Can't wait to install all :happy:
G!zmond0
16-09-2006, 08:18
nice man
Has anyone gone down the Koni FSD route?
Any pics with the upgrades installed?
G!zmond0
10-10-2006, 10:53
I can't post attachments man
Here it is & its new dynamic upgrade, OMP (MA/1864) lower structure brace to match the Seat Sport upper.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/fernandes/DSC06124_2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/fernandes/DSC06038_1.jpg
:happy:
Triple D
26-10-2006, 00:10
looks cool chap, just make sure you dont catch it on something low, as that will rip it to peices :lol:
muddyboots
26-10-2006, 07:34
Was thinking the same Spaniels, looks pretty close to the ground - you'd only have to hit something small and it wouldn't just bend the bar, but pull your suspension completely out of line too.
Not just that, the undertray doesn't fit anymore. Car will also understeer big time.
Yeah, need to have my eyes realy open :drive1::D.
Undertray in place (later I will post a picture). All matched and no understeer :happy:
Undertray on:happy:
Chopping...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/fernandes/Do-the-_chop.jpg
Going to place...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/fernandes/Going_to_place.jpg
In place. (Sorry the picture quality:rolleyes: ).
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/fernandes/In_place.jpg
:)
Triple D
26-10-2006, 23:00
Ah looks cool mate.
Thanks spaniels fr, [and thanks to Raúl (the guy in the picture) from Raúl & Miro Motorsport Workshop for his help on my upgrades].
:happy:
Triple D
26-10-2006, 23:10
Get him up to speed on turbo upgrades next ;) :lol:
Triple D
26-10-2006, 23:11
at least your doing things properly, rather than just upping the power. Brakes next i recon :D tt 312's
Yap :funk:
Here they are :happy: (calipers painted this week, not sure about the color:confused: ).
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/fernandes/TT_Brakes.jpg
I’m just waiting for Goodridge lines and Motul RBF600 brake fluid. I will remain oe TT disks & brake pads for now.
Next, engine mods.
ross ibiza
28-10-2006, 10:29
ive been ofered some 50mm lowering springs for my mk4 ibiza 1.4 16v do you rekon i need to but the new shocks aswell?
CupraPower
28-10-2006, 11:03
ive been ofered some 50mm lowering springs for my mk4 ibiza 1.4 16v do you rekon i need to but the new shocks aswell?
erm.............. yes!!!
ross ibiza
28-10-2006, 11:06
would it make a differance tho it wouldnt **** the standard ones would it? ive been told it wont
I changed my H&R springs+sotck shocks to FK Königsport and I'm very happy. Car is really stable and much better to drive than before. Money well spent!!
Specially now that we got 10-12 inches of snow last night...
I'm looking for some FK Highsport coilovers, anyone work in the trade who can supply and maybe fit them?? :confused:
hi ya ppl im after shocks and springs 4 me fr tdi. im after the same ride comfort but so it doesnt roll what mm drop do you reckon
also read that when you lower it the sump is quite low to the ground
would someone plz confirm that ?????
G!zmond0
13-11-2006, 09:36
Mine suspention is Bilstein B16.The front is 252 mm.I don't recomend lower than that
Has anyone fitted a rear antiroll bar . Did it make a big difference?
RichieRich
13-11-2006, 22:56
simon there is someone that has fitted a Fabia Vrs rear antiroll bar but for the likes of me i cant remember were or who it was you could try to search... i think it made the ibiza oversteer a bit but so do my proxies at higher than normal speeds.....
G!zmond0
14-11-2006, 12:13
I don't see what difference can it make
muddyboots
14-11-2006, 13:00
I don't see what difference can it make
Reduce roll ?
TTS Roadsport
16-11-2006, 11:41
It also helps turn in, reduces understeer and increases oversteer:D
G!zmond0
16-11-2006, 12:55
In what way exactly do you think it's helping?except safty measures
Do you have one mounted?
Have you ever drove a car that has one?
gazjones
30-11-2006, 11:06
how many people have the rear strut brace i know there was a group buy on it but that was a long time ago. i know spaniels has one in just wondering where you can get one from now? and anyone got a link to the gb thread on the rear strut brace
how many people have the rear strut brace i know there was a group buy on it but that was a long time ago. i know spaniels has one in just wondering where you can get one from now? and anyone got a link to the gb thread on the rear strut brace
I ran the GB. There was only a set number ever made.
I'll have a look through my email when I get home and if I find his email address Ill pass it on to you. You could maybe get him to knock you up one or maybe another GB.
gazjones
30-11-2006, 11:49
cheers i know they were custom made thats the problem ill see if there is any more interest
RichieRich
01-12-2006, 22:53
i might be intrested depending on the price... :)
gazjones
01-12-2006, 22:54
right ill email him and see if he is willing to make some more up think it was around £60 last time
New Upgrade:) .
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/fernandes/pfx.jpg
Powerflex PFF85-201 (front wishbone front bush).
Seat Cupra (front wishbone rear bush).
Better turn-in, better and much more precise handling.
In conclusion, totally approved:funk: .
Ibiza_Lee
21-12-2006, 00:48
Hi guys. I own a 56plate Ibiza FR and i am looking for some coilovers.
Can anybody recomend a decent set?
How does it affect the handling?
And what sort of price will i be looKing at?
Cheers for everyones time in advance.:)
Hi orange, i just carried out the same upgrade. I agree that it makes the turn in feel sharper and the car more 'connected' to the road. The only downside is increased road vibration as the old spaced bushed seemed to absorb it as well as a harder ride in general.
Ibiza_Lee I'll let you know tomorrow, fitting my FK's today...
Small, you are correct. The solid Cupra bush has that downside.
REAR ANTI ROLL BAR
Anybody got one on Ibiza or Vrs??
Can you comment on how good/bad they are?
Worth £200?
I'm after one from Jabbasport and was hoping some other people on here are so maybe we can get a discount if we have numbers interested?
If yes i'll put a thread up for number of people interested... :clap:
gazjones
30-01-2007, 18:04
i know some on fitting one soon so ill ask what its like is allot though better looking second hand personally but not many second hand ones about
I will receive mine tomorrow (not Jabbasport though). Then I will post details on the behaviour.
:)
I will receive mine tomorrow (not Jabbasport though). Then I will post details on the behaviour.
:)
Where from mate the only one ive been able to find is from jabba
From here...
http://www.motorsport-berlin-brandenburg.de/images/2006/polo_talent.jpg
ADAC Volkswagen Polo Cup
:)
http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=111333
See this pot about Jabba Rear ARB's there is a group buy on the briskoda forum, £190 delivered, just need 3 more people to meet the minimum of 10 folk.
Here it is :)
H&R 22mm rear ARB and Powerflex bushes
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/fernandes/DSC07933.jpg
On the car :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/fernandes/Estabilizadora-traseira-HR.jpg
(I will install the bushes later on, as I wasn't on the mood for that:shrug: ).
First impression. Less to none body roll and no understeer, resulting in an impressive improvement on the handling of the car matching perfectly the front 20mm H&R ARB.
Few kms done do far, so this is just the first impression.
I like this "new" car :)
Cheers
stoneyfordNI
02-02-2007, 22:23
2 important questions;
where did you get it ??
how much ??
1. From H&R dealer (www.autoforum.pt).
2. Don't know the price yet.
(You should get one as the handling is massive improved).
Cheers.
hi orange can you post the part number for the roll bar as i can only find a front one listed in the uk
Hi,
Contact the UK H&R dealer and ask for the rear arb from ADAC VW Polo Cup. It doesn't have a part number as it is a competition part and usualy available only for competition, as informed me.
By the way, there is also a 22mm front ARB with two adjustment points.
Cheers
You wont be getting one, spoke to H&R today and they are a special one off part for the Cup Polo's, they did have some left over and were selling them, but there are none left and they wont be making any more.
Jabba only now, only need 2 more folk for the Briskoda group buy. . . .
george_greek
06-02-2007, 18:23
codes from parts
are exist?
Fitted eibach pro kit springs the other day so just some pics for reference
rear hasnt dropped much but the fronts not too bad.
before.
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q296/simon34giddings/1loweringbefore.jpg
after
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q296/simon34giddings/2loweringafter.jpg
front before
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q296/simon34giddings/3lowerinbefore.jpg
after
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q296/simon34giddings/4loweringafter.jpg
rear before
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q296/simon34giddings/5loweringbefore.jpg
after
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q296/simon34giddings/6loweringafter.jpg
Does anyone have a list of all the Bushes I should upgrade and Part Numbers for the Cupra and PowerFlex Bushes?
I'm guessing there are several Bushes on the back that could be upgraded aswell.
Also anyone know a good source to buy PowerFlex bushes for the Ibiza from?
:beer::beer:Does anyone have a list of all the Bushes I should upgrade and Part Numbers for the Cupra and PowerFlex Bushes?
I'm guessing there are several Bushes on the back that could be upgraded aswell.
Also anyone know a good source to buy PowerFlex bushes for the Ibiza from?
"Dito"- Looks like {ORANGE...} has the scoop share please would also like to do the lot of it all at once!!! T.I.A. Sam:beer:
There are lots of mentions in here about coilovers and ajustability, it would be good to have some feedback on non ajustable kits. What is a good route to go for a straight forward lower / uprating kit with no ajustability? Ride height to lower no more than 25 - 35mm..
I'm thinking Koni FSD's & Eibach spring combination, Eibach pro damper / spring kit or possibly the Sachs Sports shocks Eibach spring combination. However there is some poor feedback over on Briskoda regarding the Sachs Sport Shocks.... Anyone got just a non-ajustable kit fitted? Any comments if the ride quality is better than standard and how they've lasted?
foggy_du
11-12-2007, 12:47
Hi,
I have Eibach Sportline, car is lower 4cm front and back, and It's realy good at handling...I have in plan to buy Koni shocks, with adjustable reaction. Also I have in plan to by anti roll kit, so it would be great for some info...
I currently have a Koni Sport kit (with adjustable dampers) and want to change the springs to some Eibach ones to get a more consistent ride and better handling, i'll let you know how it goes. The dampers are great though :)
New Upgrade:) .
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/fernandes/pfx.jpg
Powerflex PFF85-201 (front wishbone front bush).
Seat Cupra (front wishbone rear bush).
Better turn-in, better and much more precise handling.
In conclusion, totally approved:funk: .
I think the FR and Cupra use the same front wishbone rear bush.
Mine past away, jeje. Just bought the complete front powerflex bushes.
By the way do you know if the polo rear bushes can be used in Ibiza Cars?
Regards!
I think the FR and Cupra use the same front wishbone rear bush.
No they don't. :p
Cheers,
Joćo
Here it is :)
H&R 22mm rear ARB and Powerflex bushes
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/fernandes/DSC07933.jpg
Is it the powerflex bush rear kit? Did you use the polo rear kit? Wich is the part number?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/fernandes/pfx.jpg
Why you didn“t use the front wishbone rear bush powerflex kit?
Do you have the front wishbone rear bush seat cupra part number
Gracias y Saludos!!!!! :D
RichieRich
18-02-2008, 17:21
cupra wishbone bushes part number is 6LL501541 :) and about £16 each..
Is it the powerflex bush rear kit? Did you use the polo rear kit? Wich is the part number?
PFR85-415 still laying on the garage.
Why you didn“t use the front wishbone rear bush powerflex kit?
Do you have the front wishbone rear bush seat cupra part number
Gracias y Saludos!!!!! :D
Because its and insert to the original. If the original its worn out, you have to buy a new one to use the new Powerflex bushes.
Its easier, stronger and cheaper to buy a Cupra one.
Cheers,
Joćo
cupra wishbone bushes part number is 6LL501541 :) and about £16 each..
Thanx I think that number is for the rear. The number that I was lookig for is 6LL407183 ;)
PFR85-415 still laying on the garage.
Because its and insert to the original. If the original its worn out, you have to buy a new one to use the new Powerflex bushes.
Its easier, stronger and cheaper to buy a Cupra one.
Cheers,
Joćo
Why is still in garage. It didn“t fit? My car has a terrible plok plok sound in the rear right corner. I suppost the bush past away.
OK, so let me see if I understood you.
I need the cupra bush and the powerflex cow tits bush together, this only for the front wishbone rear bush.
Mil gracias :happy:
RichieRich
19-02-2008, 07:30
just buy the cupra one wont wear out as quick :) cheaper so it partly pays for the replacment of the old one anyway.. :)
tequilan
19-02-2008, 09:41
just had a quick read through this thread and it seems that the cupra and fr use the same wishbone bush - and also am i right in thinking that none of the bushes on the fr are poly as standard?
one more question also, :confused: regarding arb's, it is generally accepted that a good set up on a fwd car to use a thicker arb on the rear than on the front. now i'm thinking of getting fabia front and whiteline rear which share same diameter (19mm) i'm thinking that because the whiteline is adjustable i'd be able to make it stiffer than the front to balance the handling - has anybody got this set up and how do they get on with it??
....bit of a ramble :blink:
Why is still in garage. It didn“t fit? My car has a terrible plok plok sound in the rear right corner. I suppost the bush past away.
It's still on the garage, as originals are in good condition, and its hard to remove them :lol:
OK, so let me see if I understood you.
I need the cupra bush and the powerflex cow tits bush together, this only for the front wishbone rear bush.
Mil gracias :happy:
No, you didn't understand:lol:. If you want to use the Powerflex front wishbone rear bush and your original front wishbone rear bush isn't in good condition or worn out, you will need to buy a new one (from any Seat Ibiza 6L except Cupra) and then use the Powerflex front wishbone rear bush, as this is a insert to the original Seat Ibiza 6L front wishbone rear bush except Cupra.
If you buy the Cupra front wishbone rear bush, you can forget about it, because its a solid bush. You just need to replace the original by the Cupra, and your ready to go. No need for the Powerflex.
Look at the pictures, its easy to understand if you know your original front wishbone rear bush.
Cheers,
Joćo
just had a quick read through this thread and it seems that the cupra and fr use the same wishbone bush
Once again :whistle:
Front wishbone front wishbone its the same to a lot of VW/Seat/Audi/Skoda models.
Front wishbone rear bush its only solid on the Ibiza 6L Cupra.
Cheers
Picture found on the net to illustrate.
On the left, stock Ibiza 6L (except Cupra) front wishbone rear bush.
In the middle, Powerflex insert front wishbone rear bush.
On the right, stock and Powerflex.
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9685/pff85602bx0bt4.jpg
Cupra bush on the right.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/fernandes/pfx.jpg
Can you see the differences? :lol:
Cheers,
Joćo
tequilan
19-02-2008, 10:11
certainly can.
Picture found on the net to illustrate.
On the left, stock Ibiza 6L (except Cupra) front wishbone rear bush.
In the middle, Powerflex insert front wishbone rear bush.
On the right, stock and Powerflex.
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9685/pff85602bx0bt4.jpg
Cupra bush on the right.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/fernandes/pfx.jpg
Can you see the differences? :lol:
Cheers,
Joćo
I got you Joćo, thanx :D I think i“ll get the 6Q0 bush and use the powerflex tits cow for Front wishbone rear bush .
About the Front wishbone front bush it is only necesary to reemplace with the powerflex inside the red circle right?? Nothing to get at seat dealer?
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/6679/pfxcg5.jpg
Any idea about the plok sound in the rear place. I can hear it from the top of the shock absorber.
Again, Muchas Gracias :clap:
By the way
Any idea about the little black piece?
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/1728/dsc00189xx3.jpg
RichieRich
20-02-2008, 17:28
any1 know the part number for the front rear & the front cupra wishbone bush? :) or is it the same as the rear? can the cupra bushes be put on Fr's? thx :)
I got you Joćo, thanx :D I think i“ll get the 6Q0 bush and use the powerflex tits cow for Front wishbone rear bush .
About the Front wishbone front bush it is only necesary to reemplace with the powerflex inside the red circle right?? Nothing to get at seat dealer?
:lol:
Nop, just replace with the Powerflex.
Any idea about the plok sound in the rear place. I can hear it from the top of the shock absorber.
I don't know. :confused:
By the way
Any idea about the little black piece?
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/1728/dsc00189xx3.jpg
I don't know. :confused:
any1 know the part number for the front rear & the front cupra wishbone bush? :) or is it the same as the rear? can the cupra bushes be put on Fr's? thx :)
Front wishbone front bush (Seat Ibiza 6L, Seat Ibiza 6K, VW Golf III, VW Golf IV, Seat Leon 1M,
.) I dont know its part number
Front wishbone rear bush (Seat Ibiza Cupra), 6LL407183
Sure they can.
Cheers
Thanks a lot sr.
All that information will be useful!!! :D :clap:
RichieRich
22-02-2008, 17:05
just need the front cupra one now then id have all cupra bushes :D
Thanks a lot sr.
All that information will be useful!!! :D :clap:
Any time :p
just need the front cupra one now then id have all cupra bushes :D
Front wishbone front bushes from Cupra are the same as you have (FR or any other Ibiza 6L)....
Cheers
RichieRich
22-02-2008, 18:33
thanks for that orange :) very helpful ;)
Ric 2001
25-02-2008, 13:45
Go for the cupra derv bushes and not the petrol ones. ETKA has for some reason different part numbers; that what the dealer said anyway.
RichieRich
25-02-2008, 17:05
is there any difference? and what are the part numbers for the derv ones then? thanks :)
ok guys, i'm sick of my springs breaking on my 02 Tdi 130 sport :(
Any suggestions on some aftermarket springs please
p.s. I don’t want to lower the car, i just want stronger springs
cheers
Picture found on the net to illustrate.
On the left, stock Ibiza 6L (except Cupra) front wishbone rear bush.
In the middle, Powerflex insert front wishbone rear bush.
On the right, stock and Powerflex.
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9685/pff85602bx0bt4.jpg
Cupra bush on the right.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/fernandes/pfx.jpg
Can you see the differences? :lol:
Cheers,
Joćo
Tit“s cow were impossible to install. In fact, almost lost in the road :doh:
Buy the Cupra ones.
Cheers,
Joćo
I“ll do Joao :happy:
Check the pictures about the installation
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/1782/dsc00266wx9.th.jpg (http://img257.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00266wx9.jpg)
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/1830/dsc00267lz6.th.jpg (http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00267lz6.jpg)
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/5599/dsc00270uk6.th.jpg (http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00270uk6.jpg)
The original bush. 42000 km after :headhurt:
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/562/dsc00274ks6.th.jpg (http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00274ks6.jpg)
And about the plock sound in the rear suspension The shock absorber is almost damaged. I have to remplace it :censored:
PSS9??? :whistle:
I've KW Variant 3 but I guess PSS9 its a good choice too. Go for it :p
Cheers,
Joćo
Im going to get my front and back bushes replaced on my 1.2 ibiza, now the mechanic i knowhas all the tools but i have to get him the parts to use, so i kno wi need the front cupra bushes and the back cupra bushes, but was wondering while its there is there any thing else worth doing?? also this probley sounds like a stupid question but where would i order the parts from, would i need to go to a seat garage?
RichieRich
22-05-2008, 07:18
wazb i have the rear cupra bushes if u wanna buy mine?? brand new? u can ask pete88 on here and he will order you the parts then delever them? the front bushes i think are about £8... maybe the cupra anti roll bar if your doing the bushes? depends how far u want to go really :)
the ones you are selling are they the same as the ones i would buy from a dealer? also the anti roll bar, how much is that and does it make any differnce? thanks
RichieRich
22-05-2008, 17:33
yes, i got them from pete88 genuine seat "cupra" part, i have no idea of the cost of the anti roll bar u can also ask pete88 this as he will know :) saves going to the seat dealer :)
yeah that sounds ok, how much do you want for them?, also just to clarify your selling a pair of rear bushes, so all i need to buy from the dealer is a pair of front bushes? sorry if i sound abit dim lol but sort of new to this, and just to claify when we refer to bushes were refering to the wishbone bushes right? i was geeting slighty confused about this, and ill be replacing four bushes altogether right?
I need some front and rear cupra bushes. Can anyone please get me email/number for pete88 as I cant PM yet :(
RichieRich
30-05-2008, 16:15
you only need to post 3 more time mate... i dont email him myself so i dont know his email addy...
Im slighlty confused about which bushes i actuly need, the most coomon replacement is the front rear bush, right? and thats thes same on both sides? so that means the front front bush is fine? and the part number for the front rear bush is 6LL407183, right?, also im going to attempt to replace them my self, so if by replacing the front front is quite a simple job is it worth me doing it while i do ther other one/ if so whats the part number for the front front bush?
Why do you need to change the bushes?
What will it improve if i change them to cupra ones on my 1.2?
Im slighlty confused about which bushes i actuly need, the most coomon replacement is the front rear bush, right? and thats thes same on both sides? so that means the front front bush is fine? and the part number for the front rear bush is 6LL407183, right?, also im going to attempt to replace them my self, so if by replacing the front front is quite a simple job is it worth me doing it while i do ther other one/ if so whats the part number for the front front bush?
That's quite a job you are trying to do there, ie pressing an aluminium walled solid rubber bush into an aluminium console. Some one on www.briskoda.net made up a set of bits to do this job while the TCA is still on the car, but you need to use high tensile bolts and use the correct assembling oil (from Seat). Normally unless the small front bush is totally destroyed by hammering the car for a long period with u/s rear bushes, then do not need replacing - there is no VAG direct replacement bush for the front, only Powerflex or maybe an Audi A2 one would fit - I have not heard of them being used yet.
Why do you need to change the bushes?
What will it improve if i change them to cupra ones on my 1.2?
Well the only VAG Fabia-Polo-Ibiza to get the correct bush was the Cupra, all the rest got a voided bush that lets the front wheels wander about even when new, this voided bush eventually after a couple of years gets torn so things are even worse and an MOT advisory will eventually be issued.
Ah right cool, cheers for that RUM4MO :)
How much would it cost to get cupra bushes on my 1.2 then?
leviathan18
21-06-2008, 04:31
hey guys do you happen to know if the eibach from the golf mkiv will fit the ibiza fr 1.8t ?
There are lots of mentions in here about coilovers and ajustability, it would be good to have some feedback on non ajustable kits. What is a good route to go for a straight forward lower / uprating kit with no ajustability? Ride height to lower no more than 25 - 35mm..
I'm thinking Koni FSD's & Eibach spring combination, Eibach pro damper / spring kit or possibly the Sachs Sports shocks Eibach spring combination. However there is some poor feedback over on Briskoda regarding the Sachs Sport Shocks.... Anyone got just a non-ajustable kit fitted? Any comments if the ride quality is better than standard and how they've lasted?
I had the Koni FSD kit fitted to my 2007 Mk4 Ibiza FR about 3 weeks ago ( 4 shocks and springs 30mm drop ) and I am very impressed with the results, the ride quality is now far better than standard and the road holding and handling are much improved. This kit was fitted by AMD at their Woking workshop I also had a Whiteline ( I think ) adjustable front anti-roll bar fitted ( 2 mounting points for the droplink ) this makes the car corner very flat and stable. For fast road use I do'nt think you will find a better set-up.
PS I am 54 years old and have been playing with hot hatches for about the last 30 years and this is the best set-up I have had on any of my cars. this set-up is not the cheapest but it does work !!!!
Thought this is probably the best place to post this.
Just to set the record straight as far as fabia vrs front ARB being any different to cupra one.
They are both 20mm ARB's and use exactly the same part numbers.:)
tdi130sport
03-08-2008, 18:57
Hi, just a quick question maybe someone has had a simular problem? I own a black metallic 02 TDI sport 130 with 46K on clock.Had a suspension rattle a few months ago which my local garage put down to worn anti-roll bar bushes and they were duly replaced. Car was fine for a few weeks after and handled nicely again. Now I have a lot rather annoying 'clunk' when I turn and brake at almost full left hand lock, also when I accelerate from rest ,not flat out though , I can hear the same clunk, sounds as if something is moving back and forth slightly with suspension??
lukekbrown
04-08-2008, 13:34
Hi, just a quick question maybe someone has had a simular problem? I own a black metallic 02 TDI sport 130 with 46K on clock.Had a suspension rattle a few months ago which my local garage put down to worn anti-roll bar bushes and they were duly replaced. Car was fine for a few weeks after and handled nicely again. Now I have a lot rather annoying 'clunk' when I turn and brake at almost full left hand lock, also when I accelerate from rest ,not flat out though , I can hear the same clunk, sounds as if something is moving back and forth slightly with suspension??
Has your anti roll bar got plastic retainers or welded ones?
I ask this because I had plastic retainers on mine and they fell apart so the anti roll bar was knocking back and forth making a rattle whenever there was a slight bump or anything in the road.
To resolve this I got a VRS ARB with welded retainers, new clamps and bushes so the ARB wouldn't have excessive movement.
I also changed the front and rear wishbone bushes for Cupra and powerflex bushes at the same time.
Now the car is great to drive with my coilovers :)
tdi130sport
04-08-2008, 19:45
Hi Luke, thanks for the reply. The car has standard retainers whatever that means ? Plastic maybe? Sorry to be a little dull what car is a VRS anti roll bar from?.
The anti roll bar is from a Skoda Fabia vRS. Skoda redesigned the ARB a while back to include the metal retainers. The vRS ARB is also 21mm thick whereas your standard one will be 18mm.
I had exactly the same problem with my 130 Sport and the redesigned vRS ARB sorted it out. The actual clunk is the ARB knocking against the front wishbone bush housing on the drivers side.
You can buy the vRS ARB and new bushes direct from Skoda for about £70. However if you're not able to fit it yourself the labour cost at a garage will be quite high as the front subframe needs dropping in order to get the ARB out.
Has your anti roll bar got plastic retainers or welded ones?
I ask this because I had plastic retainers on mine and they fell apart so the anti roll bar was knocking back and forth making a rattle whenever there was a slight bump or anything in the road.
To resolve this I got a VRS ARB with welded retainers, new clamps and bushes so the ARB wouldn't have excessive movement.
I also changed the front and rear wishbone bushes for Cupra and powerflex bushes at the same time.
Now the car is great to drive with my coilovers :)
Thanks Luke, i have this noise and couldnt find the problem, neither could i get it to do it when the mechanic was in the car. Are the clips easy to spot? Gutted if the sub frame has to come off to change the ARB, ive just had the front bushes done. :banghead2
Thanks Luke, i have this noise and couldnt find the problem, neither could i get it to do it when the mechanic was in the car. Are the clips easy to spot? Gutted if the sub frame has to come off to change the ARB, ive just had the front bushes done. :banghead2
To check if your car has the original plastic end stops, I'd just try to touch the end stops mounted on the ARB with a small magnet. If you are having trouble and you think that it is due to a u/s old style ARB then either post some pictures of the ARB - take each front wheel off and take a picture of the area near the ARB mounting clamps, or look on the Skoda forum www.briskoda.net in the Fabia section and you should find some good pictures of broken ARB plastic end stops.
dannyboy89
10-01-2009, 19:57
ive got a 1.4tdi and the only lowering springs i could get were apex ones and that was for a 35mm drop, however its only noticeable at the front
im now tempted to fit some coilovers and drop the thing on its arse
i dont think it will look good with my 17'' aloys on tho
ill add some more suspension options in then lol
Rayvern Hydraulics 1st UK kit for the Ibiza mk4 - for now a total one-off custom kit though i think he has taken the plans for it incase anyone else with a mk4 wants it.
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b330/redloop/100_0503.jpg
car can be dropped 200mm+ from standard height and the kit runs a 5gal tank with compressor and SMC fittings.
OK, just read through this thread and am more confused to when I started! :lol:
I have a set of Eibach Pro Line lowing springs (-35mm I think). I have some powerflew bushes on the front of the car away way.
I really don't trust the car cornering, feels all over the shot, very eager to fly out. I have 17" Leon FR+ alloys with 205/40r17 Uniroyal Rainsport 2's, so not a bad tyre, wide and grippy (same width as my old 16" sport wheels).
I was gunna chuck the springs on anyway to make sure I can live with the lower ride height with the speed bumps round my area.
But, people are saying you should upgrade this and that etc etc.
I DONT want to loose ride quality (the little that the Ibiza has), I was it to be slightly soft but hard enough for a bit of spirited driving.
So, if I decide I want to keep the springs:
What should I replace my shocks with?
Should I get a seat sport strut brace?
Should I get a new front ARB?
Should I get a new rear ARB?
Should I replace the wishbone bushes? (Front and back?)
I don't want to spend A LOT of money, car is a 90k'er now!
muddyboots
12-01-2009, 16:09
OI have 17" Leon FR+ alloys with 205/40r17 Uniroyal Rainsport 2's, so not a bad tyre, wide and grippy (same width as my old 16" sport wheels).
Are they the same offset as the Ibiza wheels ?
Yeah, they're a spot on fit, no scrubbing, sit in the arches perfectly. They are practically the same as Cupra alloys
Gooner_Mike
10-02-2009, 14:14
I'm after a Whiteline rear ARB for my Mk4 Ibiza. A member on this forum says he has one I can have but he mentions its the same as a Polo 6N one! Will this fit? :shrug: (I know the Mk4 Ibiza is the same as the Polo 9N and the Skoda Fabia.)
anyone who is from n ireland where would a good place to get coilovers fitted. had my eye set on them kw variant 1 is it a good idea or is there better out there for 700 pound
tequilan
28-04-2009, 20:35
anybody heard anything about FK Powertech Suspension Kits? they're very adjustable for both height and damping, and they are quite cheap too......done a search on here but nothing found....
ben
Damoegan
28-04-2009, 21:05
There are loads of people on here running them. Have a look through "ibiza 130 tdi"'s readers ride thread.
tequilan
28-04-2009, 21:33
There are loads of people on here running them. Have a look through "ibiza 130 tdi"'s readers ride thread.
Yep ur right, but they are running the coil over kit, I'm on about the spring and damper kit, I just wasn't that clear in the op :-)
Ben
Damoegan
28-04-2009, 21:34
Yep ur right, but they are running the coil over kit, I'm on about the spring and damper kit, I just wasn't that clear in the op :-)
Ben
Ah, ok mate. Not seen anyone using that kit then.
I've recently lowered my 130TDI 30mm with eibach spring and now it feels alot softer and slower on compression and rebound so thinking about upgrading the shocks. what do people recommend? I want it stiff and adjustable but not looking for coilovers.
Shocks will be ruined after using Eibach Springs - especially the diesel - weight etc
Had a look through this thread and i'm confused! Can some one please list all the bushes I need to order? My car knocks like buggery and is p?ssing me off.
Cheers
Neil
Had a look through this thread and i'm confused! Can some one please list all the bushes I need to order? My car knocks like buggery and is p?ssing me off.
Cheers
Neil
Neil82, i am in the same position here. Nobody has posted with a complete conclusion to the bushing aspect of things. I am about to order all the parts i require as well as a suspension kit, so would be greatful if someone could conclude on the following:
As far as I can make out, (any 6L / MK4 model apart from the Cupra) will require the following to replace all bushings etc:
- New top mounts (get from main dealer, named "bearing surface")... apparently the originals will be knackered?
- Front susp arm / Rear bush off the TDI Cupra 160 x2 (~£7) - part # 6LL 407 183
- PowerFlex Front susp arm / Front bush?
- PowerFlex Anti Roll Bar bushings (front and back?)
If someone could tidy that up correctly...?
These are the options available from PowerFlex:
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h201/m_fostervf/Cars/PowerFlex1.jpg
Can anyone tell us what diameter ARB Bushings are for what car? I am assuming the 19mm bush is for the cupra / cupra TDI? I have a 130 PD Sport, would I require the 18mm?
Neil82, i am in the same position here. Nobody has posted with a complete conclusion to the bushing aspect of things. I am about to order all the parts i require as well as a suspension kit, so would be greatful if someone could conclude on the following:
As far as I can make out, (any 6L / MK4 model apart from the Cupra) will require the following to replace all bushings etc:
- New top mounts (get from main dealer, named "bearing surface")... apparently the originals will be knackered?
- Front susp arm / Rear bush off the TDI Cupra 160 x2 (~£7) - part # 6LL 407 183
- PowerFlex Front susp arm / Front bush?
- PowerFlex Anti Roll Bar bushings (front and back?)
If someone could tidy that up correctly...?
These are the options available from PowerFlex:
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h201/m_fostervf/Cars/PowerFlex1.jpg
Can anyone tell us what diameter ARB Bushings are for what car? I am assuming the 19mm bush is for the cupra / cupra TDI? I have a 130 PD Sport, would I require the 18mm?
It is advised to replace your top mounts and bearings when fitting a new suspension kit if your car is fairly old or has covered a lot of miles. When I fitted a set of coilovers to my car (52plate 130 Sport 50k) I replaced the top mounts and bearings, although the old ones were ok.
The bush to replace your front TCA rear bush is the Cupra one 6LL 407 183. I didn't replace my front TCA front bush as mine were in good condition.
You need to make sure that your ARB is in good condition and the bush end stops are the metal type and not the weak plastic ones that corrode and fall off. The ARB only has 2 bushes holding it...1 each side. I replaced my ARB with a 21mm thick Fabia vRS one with metal bush end stops. I used original ARB bushes.
Thanks for the further insight Altech. By top mounts and "bearings" i am asuming you are referring to whats called surface bearings or something? I think i remember someone talking about the before.
Are the bush end stops on the ARB the ones that are on the connection between the ARB and drop links? If i have plastic ones on mine should i replace with powerflex ones or just get metal ones from the dealers? are the metal ones definately fitted to the Cupra 160? Or do some other models have them too, i.e. FR and sport?
I was thinking of just ordering powerflex all round just to get it over and done with. Or is the Cupra front TCA rear bush recommended over the powerflex insert?
Thanks for the further insight Altech. By top mounts and "bearings" i am asuming you are referring to whats called surface bearings or something? I think i remember someone talking about the before.
Are the bush end stops on the ARB the ones that are on the connection between the ARB and drop links? If i have plastic ones on mine should i replace with powerflex ones or just get metal ones from the dealers? are the metal ones definately fitted to the Cupra 160? Or do some other models have them too, i.e. FR and sport?
I was thinking of just ordering powerflex all round just to get it over and done with. Or is the Cupra front TCA rear bush recommended over the powerflex insert?
Yes the bearings can be called surface bearings.
What age and model is your car? Are you getting any knocking noises?
The bush end stops are attached to the ARB where the ARB bushes sit. They basically stop the ARB from moving side to side too much. You can see them if you look through your wheel. Older models have plastic end stops and newer models have metal end stops which are welded to the bar. If your car is fitted with the older style ARB it would be best to replace it.
Yes the Cupra front TCA rear bush is recommended over the powerflex insert....I've heard that the powerflex insert can fall out!
Its a 2004 130pd sport maate. no, no knocking noises really, just a very crashy ride on the standard suspension.
Do you have any pics pointing out the ARB bush end stops? I will have a check for this asap...
Is the cupra front TCA rear bush the same in both petrol and diesel models?
Its a 2004 130pd sport maate. no, no knocking noises really, just a very crashy ride on the standard suspension.
Do you have any pics pointing out the ARB bush end stops? I will have a check for this asap...
Is the cupra front TCA rear bush the same in both petrol and diesel models?
I've been trying to find a pic of the end stops but can't find one anywhere! If you follow the ARB along and look at where it is attached to the subframe via the clamp and bush, you should be able to tell if the end stop is metal or plastic....or if it is even there at all!
I believe that both petrol and diesel Cupras use the same bush. The part number above will get you the right ones anyway.
Gorynych
23-06-2009, 13:24
You are lucky, :clap: u can use sport suspension kits and 40-th profile. In Ukraine, where I live, roads are low quality and majority of ibiza sport owners, if they dont live in the capital of the country, change stock wheels 16 inch, and 205/45/R16 on 15 inch 195/55/R15. Because if you have sport suspension, after 15 thousand miles or earlier, you will have no suspension at all.:censored:
sh!t one mate! lol!
Altech, are the end stops on the ARB where the arb connects to the drop links? Assuming your answer is yes, does the ARB bush fit between this end stop and the drop links?
Is there an ARB on the rear of the car? Or just the front? All i can see is a rear beam...
Also, are the top mounts and bearings two seperate parts that need to be ordered? If so, i will need 4 wont i?
Sorry for the specific stupid questions, but i am a bit of a newbie at this and want to get it done right first time. Hope it helps clear any issues up other people may have reading this thread.
Suspension kit arrived today, so im gonna get up to the old stealers and order the other things i might need asap...
Cheers!
Damoegan
24-06-2009, 00:10
mk4 ibiza's dont come with a rear ARB as standard.
I've taken a couple of pics to help you, and anyone else that is unsure of where the end stops are.
This one shows the end stop and bush (circled)
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd36/Altech_2007/P1030203.jpg
And this is a close up
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd36/Altech_2007/JOOOO.jpg
Top mounts and bearings are seperate parts so you need 4 parts all together
Hope that makes things clearer
Altech you are a legend. On behalf of anyone else on the forum that required the same detail, thank you so much!
So, talking about rear ARB's. Can these be fitted to the MK4 ibiza? And would it give any noticeable handling benefits? Also, what else would be required to fit this to the rear struts?
That's ok mate. Get a lot of people asking about the ARB so hopefully those pics will help them too.
A few members have commented that a rear ARBs greatly improves the handling. Whiteline make an adjustable one which is quite popular. Some members have posted up pics in their readers ride threads of how it attaches to the rear beam.
been looking around for kw variant 1 coilovers for 6l ibiza and found the cheapest website venom motorsport at 700 pound does anybody know any other cheaper sites cheers
Try Damian @ DPM on here mate. He is a representative of DPMperformance.com who are based in Newcastle. He might be able to cut you a deal on them.
Suspension upgrade
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Does anyone know the spring rates of some lowered springs I'm going to be selling the Ebachs and I'm looking at koni, kw, spax or apex. I know the standard weights of the TDI sport are between 711 and 740kg per side, I want to try and replace the springs with something simalar or higher.
If i were you i would go for an adjustable set mate, then you can get the perfect ride height that your after.
anyone else had a problem with the bolts coming loose at the top of their suspension struts on the bulk head or anything? mine keep on coming loose. would a strut brace help this and relieve some of the pressure?
Damoegan
23-09-2009, 22:25
Loctite....
Loctite paste? Did you have the same problem mate? Maybe an issue with cheap bolts?
Damoegan
25-09-2009, 01:23
I've had no problems with mine.
You can get loctite in either a paste, liquid or even like a string that you wrap round the threads....
Thinking of coilovers myself, My car has done 68k (PD130 Sport).
So i guess its best to replace the topmounts and bearings while everything is off the car?. As like i have said in my previous post my car makes a banging noise from the rear.
What price would new topmounts and bearings be?. Would i need to do front and rear.
Thanks
Luke
Damoegan
25-09-2009, 12:07
Top mount bearings are only about £9 each.
Pretty cheap then.
Are the topmount bearings just for the front?. And just topmounts for the rears?.
Luke
they are just for the front. cheap as chips. my advice would be to get cupra bushes fitted to the front as well, and maybe your ARB bushes replaced while you have it in. Handling and everything will be tight as a drum then. Damo, im getting the bolts looked at tomorrow again, so hopefully they will be put in properly this time...
Gav_Lewis
29-10-2009, 20:19
Hi, new user here.
Can anyone give me the ARB bush SEAT part number please? I have the number for the wishbone rear bush (the solid Cupra ones 6LL 407 183) I just need the ARB bush. I've searched this thread high and low and can only find powerflex part numbers.
SEAT dealer quoted me £350 to change the wishbone rear bush and ARB bushes at the same . Local Bosch service place only wants £103 for the wishbone bush so I need to price the whole thing and they need the part number.
Thanks all.
Gav
£350!!! hahahahhahahahahhahahahah! Thats a joke... right?
I had my cupra solid front/rear's, top mounts, surface bearings, rear bump stops cut down, and a v-maxx suspension kit fitted for £100. Then i had my ball joints and ARB bushes fitted for £70. The ball joints involve a fair bit of work from what i can tell, but the ARB bushes are pretty straight forward.
Gav_Lewis
30-10-2009, 12:28
Nah no joke. Parts were about £20 for the wishbone bushes and £47 for the ARB bushes. I'm not sure what the labour rate is but I'm assuming £90 an hour, so say 3hrs and you're at roughly £350 all in.:(
Really need that part number for the independent garage!
cheers
Here is the contact you need for parts...
http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=191165
Very pleasant to deal with, and very quick on processing orders. 100% correct parts every time.
Gav_Lewis
30-10-2009, 18:02
Thanks dude, I'll give that a shot
well, did you get sorted out in the end?
Gav_Lewis
11-11-2009, 11:25
Yeah got prices, the guy was very quick.
I want to try and negotiate the dealer down on price (chance in hell maybe?) first before I buy the parts and go to an indie.
Is there any chance of an indie garage screwing it up or is it a simple process (to change wishbone bushes and complete ARB unit)?
Cheers
Gav
I dont think you will be able to negotiate on the price of the parts.
The cupra bushes can be a pain to get in some times, as well as trying to get the old ones out, but an indie garage will be used to changing these.
Gav_Lewis
11-11-2009, 16:09
Not on the parts, the amount of labour. Surely they should be used to doing these so should charge less than 3hrs. Does the subframe need dropping?
Cheers
i would estimate about an hour or hour and a half for the bushes. no, as far as i know these can be changed without have to take anything else off really. Ball joints however are a different story... lol!
hey ive got a mk4 ibiza 1.2 sx and was woundering what 35-40mm springs and shocks there is out there for it!
searched google etc its not very clear ! and couldnt see any 35mm or 40mm lowering kits!
and also would it be necessary to have a different height drop at the back and the front? because of weight or something like that !
oww and i want them reasonably cheapish £250ish!
No, they are all coilover kits because the suspension types vary quite a lot on them. If i were you i wouldnt bother. im regretting the £450 kit i bought and the low profile tires on my 17" RS4 wheels. You feel every stone on the road, and the road noise is terrible. a 10 mile drive is a chore!
hop2manual42
03-12-2009, 14:36
i fitted a set of TA Techniks to mine. Most people think they are crap but i have had no problems with mine. using reinforced strut tops on the front and polyurethrane bushes in the subframe, with powerflex reinforcers. for pics see:
http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=243946&highlight=red+ibiza+136
I'm thinking about putting 17 inch wheels on a Ibiza TDI Sport.
I know that 17's came standard on later FR and Cupra cars and was wondering if there were any suspension differences.
I have done some research and some people have said that the ride will be crashy and less comfortable on the 17's.
Is this the case or will the car ride the same as a later fr would?
Thanks
petercastleton
15-03-2010, 22:18
I have Apex 35mm lowering springs on my TDi 130 and the rear is still high. Looking at the box I'm not sure if they give you different springs no matter what model you order for. The TDi lump is heavy and would surely need heavier front springs. I'm not happy with the ride height or the ride, the front is crashy. :(
Think I'm going to have to go down the coilover route.....
what are the coilovers like you can get on ebay for like 160 pound??? they come with tuv approval and 3 years warranty???!!! surely this is too good to be true right? has any body got them fitted or can you recommend them or stay away lol???
Disco_Biscuit
19-03-2010, 06:30
what are the coilovers like you can get on ebay for like 160 pound??? they come with tuv approval and 3 years warranty???!!! surely this is too good to be true right? has any body got them fitted or can you recommend them or stay away lol???
I've just bought the Rokkor ones, going to fit them today, they look really good quality which i was suprised about.
I'll let you know how it turns out :)
dervpower
20-03-2010, 10:49
Looking at getting some SH Fk High Sports off Mike here :D
One question though... They don't come with drop links, as i'll probably be running around 70mm lower will I need any?
Cheers guys!
Yes FK kits require shorter drop links. I've got V-Maxx shorter links fitted to my Konigsport kit. Iirc they cost about £40 from DPM
dervpower
20-03-2010, 15:13
cheers for that! How low does that allow you to go with no issues?
With shorter drop links you can lower it all the way to the bottom of the adjuster thread without the arb causing any problems.
Originally when I fitted my kit I dropped the front 60mm with my 17" wheels (205/40 tyres). Sump and ARB caused no issues but if I hit a dip in the road the tyres would scrub on part of the arch lining. The area where the tyre was scrubbing could have been cut away but I didn't want to butcher my arch linings!
I've since raised my car 10mm and fitted my original 16" wheels (205/45) It's still low but it's more comfortable and driveable :)
dervpower
20-03-2010, 17:51
good stuff. Just had a look on dpm, they are 44 quid, so think i'll get them. Thanks for the info dude!
Gooner_Mike
20-03-2010, 18:21
:whistle:
:whistle:
Unaware of this Mike? :lol:
Gooner_Mike
20-03-2010, 23:07
Unaware of this Mike? :lol:
:lol: :no: Of course I know about this! [B)]
dervpower
21-03-2010, 08:48
Unaware of this Mike? :lol:
I was going to sneak around at night and break in, my cover is blown now :p
WILCEY_FR
30-03-2010, 12:46
:help: hey guys been reading through all the posts but didnt really find anything so wondering if anyonne can help, ive got the new facelift mk4, are all the parts i need to order the same as the 02 onwards model? and if so whaa lowering springs have peeps bought and would recommend i dont need all the rest of the arm just the lowered springs, plz help,thanx aldibal
Ive got Eibachs 30 front 25 rear. Very good, just waiting to settle a little more.
Hello, Fellas!
I am preety close to buy and install Bilstein B8 shocks and H&R lowering springs. (salesman claims it is the same as Bilstein B12 kit - because these 2 companies work theire springs together?)
Price is about 700 (guess it's about 550 GBP).
What is your opinion on that kit? How it's compare to a similare priced coilover kits (Lowtec for egsample)?
Have searched forums but only opinion s i have found is due the lowering superiority of cheaper coils, or in other hand driving superiority of EXPENSIVE coils. No comparison spring/shock kit vs coils in the same price range.
Vehicle is Ibiza 1.9 TDI SPORT, 100HP - soon to be remaped to about 145HP, wheels are 205/45/16 (7J and ET is 35).Allready with Cupra bushes 'cause my mechanic said it is better - and I confirm since I got them for a year - steering is a bit more firm and precise!
Lowering the car is not issue here unless it is in service of funktionality!
I am looking for better performance in handling on regular twisty roads with all kinds of asphalt, some patchets and some dips - please consider this while you coment!:)
Not interesting in "low to the ground" show off 'cause I don't believe it gaines more speed and more secure drive trough the curves on regular roads.
P.S. English is not my native language so feel free to correct me or ask if something is bad explained!
Thanks!
muddyboots
01-04-2010, 07:53
Hello, Fellas!
I am preety close to buy and install Bilstein B8 shocks and H&R lowering springs. (salesman claims it is the same as Bilstein B12 kit - because these 2 companies work theire springs together?)
Price is about 700 (guess it's about 550 GBP).
What is your opinion on that kit? How it's compare to a similare priced coilover kits (Lowtec for egsample)?
Have searched forums but only opinion s i have found is due the lowering superiority of cheaper coils, or in other hand driving superiority of EXPENSIVE coils. No comparison spring/shock kit vs coils in the same price range.
Vehicle is Ibiza 1.9 TDI SPORT, 100HP - soon to be remaped to about 145HP, wheels are 205/45/16 (7J and ET is 35).Allready with Cupra bushes 'cause my mechanic said it is better - and I confirm since I got them for a year - steering is a bit more firm and precise!
Lowering the car is not issue here unless it is in service of funktionality!
I am looking for better performance in handling on regular twisty roads with all kinds of asphalt, some patchets and some dips - please consider this while you coment!:)
Not interesting in "low to the ground" show off 'cause I don't believe it gaines more speed and more secure drive trough the curves on regular roads.
P.S. English is not my native language so feel free to correct me or ask if something is bad explained!
Thanks!
Hi
Don't worry about your English, it's better than many on here use :)
I have the Bilstein B12 kit, but it's on a VW Passat estate - so it's a very very different handling car to the Ibiza to start with (I used to have a Mk4 Ibiza so I know how different they are).
The springs in my kit are actually marked "Bilstein" on them.
I wasn't interested in lowering the car either, I don't really care about how it looks, just wanted better handling performance, as the standard setup was pretty poor (and quite old & worn). I also travel on a lot of rural roads where it is common to get debris in the road (dead animals, stones, bits of wood, allsorts!) and also snow in the winter, so I still need reasonable ground clearance.
I figured that a decent damper & spring kit tailored to the specific car & axle weights would be a better bet than a cheap adjustable coilover kit that would probably never be adjusted correctly, and therefore never ultimately achieve the same level of performance.
I've been very pleased - the handling of the Passat is much improved, and I driving it is now actually slightly enjoyable. At the same time, the ride is very comfortable. Even my Mum commented on the comfy ride (and she didn't know I'd changed anything).
I think the drop was something around 30mm off a standard Passat ride height, but as mine is a Sport model which already sits around 15mm lower than standard, the drop for me was not as much.
I would not want to go any lower, the car is quite prone to hitting things in the road now, and during the snow recently, I was almost at the point where the car was beaching out on the snow between the tyre tracks. The engine undertray has taken a bit of a battering.
I recall that the undertray of the Mk4 Ibiza is quite low as standard.
I do find on roads with lots of dips, the car does bottom out - but the Passat is quite a lot heavier than the Ibiza. When I bought the kit, the car was regularly used to drive my wife and baby around, so the B12 kit was ideal as the ride quality is very good. Now the car is only driven by me, and if I was buying a kit again I think I'd like something which was more stiffly damped.
One of the reasons I chose Bilstein was because of the design of the dampers, and their reputation for quality and long life.
I don't know how useful this info is, as the cars are very very different :shrug:
I suspect it would be a big improvement on the standard Mk4 suspension though !
Hi
Don't worry about your English, it's better than many on here use :)
Thanks mate! Not learned in school, but from music and movies. Believe that's why I strugle sometimes with some of words or sentences, not to mention technical terms and expressions!
I have the Bilstein B12 kit, but it's on a VW Passat estate - so it's a very very different handling car to the Ibiza to start with (I used to have a Mk4 Ibiza so I know how different they are).
The springs in my kit are actually marked "Bilstein" on them.
In did - quite different hangover of chassiss and weight ratio, and weight it self. I used to drive back in 90's station wagon Passat, guess it is uncomparable with modern line, but the weight is I guess similar.
I wasn't interested in lowering the car either, I don't really care about how it looks, just wanted better handling performance, as the standard setup was pretty poor (and quite old & worn). I also travel on a lot of rural roads where it is common to get debris in the road (dead animals, stones, bits of wood, allsorts!) and also snow in the winter, so I still need reasonable ground clearance.
We understand each other!:)
I figured that a decent damper & spring kit tailored to the specific car & axle weights would be a better bet than a cheap adjustable coilover kit that would probably never be adjusted correctly, and therefore never ultimately achieve the same level of performance.
Makes sense to me!:yes:
I've been very pleased - the handling of the Passat is much improved, and I driving it is now actually slightly enjoyable. At the same time, the ride is very comfortable. Even my Mum commented on the comfy ride (and she didn't know I'd changed anything).
I have found that thread and have remember mums opinion!:coolthumb:D
I do find on roads with lots of dips, the car does bottom out - but the Passat is quite a lot heavier than the Ibiza. When I bought the kit, the car was regularly used to drive my wife and baby around, so the B12 kit was ideal as the ride quality is very good. Now the car is only driven by me, and if I was buying a kit again I think I'd like something which was more stiffly damped.
Guess with smoler mass hang over front and rear axle on Ibiza that could be to somewhat reduced? Maybe I'm totaly wrong...:whistle:
One of the reasons I chose Bilstein was because of the design of the dampers, and their reputation for quality and long life.
Yes, the reputation is undenied! Especially among BMW posey!
I don't know how useful this info is, as the cars are very very different :shrug:
I suspect it would be a big improvement on the standard Mk4 suspension though !
Thank you very, very much for reply! I guess any opinion is usefull after some thinking trough the matter! Off course experience with at least some similar hight, bright and weight hatchback could come closer to the real answer. (if it exsist anyway!)
But you have pointed me that yours springs are not rock hard. That could be good with some shocks with excursion that is slightly harder than suspension on "regular" traks...excuse me - I mean roads!:redface:;)
Gav_Lewis
04-04-2010, 13:09
Hi,
I finally got around to changing the front wishbone bushes and ARB on my 05 FR (also the garage changed a drop-link on one side) BUT...
...I've still got a knocking/rattling coming from the front suspension and vibration coming through the steering wheel whenever I'm on rough ground, especially on full lock or turning moderately.
Any ideas what this could be? Is it simply that the suspension is stiffer now that I have the Cupra bushes on there?
Gone are the "deep clonks" of the worn bushes and ARB, this is different. I feel/hear it even on moderately bumpy roads and the frequency of knocking is high, several per second rather than one deep one every pothole.
Thanks for any advice,
Cheers
Gav
Hey,
I'm looking to lower my Ibiza Fr tdi (56plate) , could somebody tell me what i would need, eg.shorter drop links etc. My budget is quite low (about £250) obviously i can't afford coilovers, but what would be the best set up i could get for my budget and where could i buy from?
Cheers, John.
Hey,
I'm looking to lower my Ibiza Fr tdi (56plate) , could somebody tell me what i would need, eg.shorter drop links etc. My budget is quite low (about £250) obviously i can't afford coilovers, but what would be the best set up i could get for my budget and where could i buy from?
Cheers, John.
I would say H&R springs. p/n 29333-3.
Cheers,
Joćo
Cheers, any idea where i could find them on the net,done a quick google search and didnt find anything.
John.
I would try any of the forum sponsors for an H&R retailer :)
Cheers,
Joćo
nick0323
14-05-2010, 10:56
I had the powerflex inserts for the front lower rear wishbone bushes. They did make quite a bit of a difference but they made a popping noise everytime I accelerated harshly or cornered harshly...quite liked that actually as it let me know when I was giving it too much beans.
One side kept popping out a little bit though and I eventually replaced them with the Seat Cupra bushes. =)
Though I had to replace the subframe too as the bolt jammed - sigh.
Had my front ARB kit replaced under my comprehensive used car warranty from VW as the bushes were knackered and the plastic carriers were broken. Haven't had any problems with it since but I haven't actually checked to see whether if the new kit has carriers or plastic or not! I have a feeling that I may be coming back to replace the front ARB in a few years time if I still have the car!!! When this does happen I think I'll just get an aftermarket front ARB and rear ARB kit all done at once.
I'm tempted to replace my rear beam bushes but I haven't had any problems with them nor have I had any jit from the front lower front wishbone bushes.
Suspension wise I am lowered -30mm with progressive springs, I have KYB Excel-G shocks at the rear and Bilstein B4 shocks at the front.
I did have fitted a Seat Cupra front strut brace but it meant that I couldn't remove the engine cleaner unit (not good if I suffer an ignition coil failure!!!). So I removed it and had to replace one of the top mounts which got screwed in the process!! bearings on it were gone though so I need to look at replacing the other top mount when funds permit!!!
Also going to redesign my air cleaner unit so I can put the strut brace back on without it fouling the strut brace - handling was immense with it on and I haven't tried it with the combination of my cupra bushes.
Neil Davies
21-07-2010, 01:07
My girlfriends '04 SX has developed a really bad knocking over the last few months. It used to creak a little, which was the wishbone rear bushes - when they were greased they were quiet but as they dried out they started creaking again. After reading through this I'm getting them changed for the Cupra ones. I also suspect the top mounts as being worn, as the knocking and creaking does sound quite high up, and the car is on 56k, most of which is daily runs to work and back over some pretty crappy roads. I'm not really interested in making the car more sporty, I've got my Beetle for that, just a nice quiet drive.
So the questions are these:
1 - I need the top mounts, top bearings and the cupra front rear bushes. Did we ever get a set of part numbers for these parts?
2 - If the ARB bushes are also knackered, what do I need to get, bearing in mind that I don't want to upgrade to the VRS one, just replace the standard parts?
Thanks,
Neil
nick0323
21-07-2010, 09:24
The creaking is your anti-roll bar bushes, new ones will creak too. If you want to stop the creaking you will need to apply copper grease to the anti-roll bar bushes and to your new wishbone bushes.
VW replaced my anti-roll bar kit under warranty because the plastic carriers (OMG PLASTIC) snapped. so you will need to check your carriers for damage. And if they are plastic then replace them as you will hear your anti-roll bar knocking and you will see the damage it can cause.
Seat Cupra wishbone bushes are a good idea, I don't know the part numbers to any of the parts but I got my Cupra bushes from Awesome Tuning. Only downside is it will make your ride slightly more harsh and minor vibration eg 4th gear doing 30mph. On the plus side it livens up the front end of your car making the steering more precise.
Top Mount bearing can go well before 40k/4 years. I changed one and when I looked at it the bearings were absolutely shagged!
So...
1 - Go to your Seat dealer, give them your cars registration and they can source the parts for you minus the Cupra bushes, best to buy them from Awesome Tuning.
2 - You will need the ARB Carriers and Bushes.
And don't forget to copper grease the mofo's!
1) I'd just get the Cupra wishbone rear bushes from Seat as they should be cheapest and no delivery charges, though they will need to order them in (they will know the P/Ns). ARB, maybe check if your car has the earlier or later ARB currently fitted - you can do this by checking that the "stops" on the ARB are plastic or metal by using a magnet, if there are no cracks on these "stops" then you will only need new bushes - but you do need to know which version (early or later) ARB is fitted as this determines the bush P/Ns - by the way that car will have been built near or at the POE for the later ARB. You cannot just buy in new ARB "stops" - when the plastic ones fail its time to replace the ARB. The strut top ball bearing set is poorly protected so they do end up getting to look pretty crap quite quickly.
On my Ibiza i've had it lowered 35mm on Eibach springs front and back, but have a few problems:
1. The rear of my car doesnt sit level with the front, it's arse is in the air- dont know if this is normal???
2. Now my front wheels are rubbing on my wheel arches / wall!!
Has anyone ever had this problem before and also could someone tell me what I should be looking to buy to get my car level and low?? Coilovers???? if so which ones???
Any help?????
Cheers Guys
RichieRich
11-10-2010, 18:35
hi ady the answer to your probs is that all vag cars lowerd with spring and dampers sit higher at the rear even my golf does it on 35mm drop, u could either get some 45mm rear drop ones or do coilys or air ride depending on how much u want to spend really. as to the rubbing sounds like u might need your arches rolling unless its hitting the inner plastic arch?
hi ady the answer to your probs is that all vag cars lowerd with spring and dampers sit higher at the rear even my golf does it on 35mm drop, u could either get some 45mm rear drop ones or do coilys or air ride depending on how much u want to spend really. as to the rubbing sounds like u might need your arches rolling unless its hitting the inner plastic arch?
Hey ahh right i wasnt aware of the vag problem really, well luckily the tyres arent rubbing on my actual arch just the plastic fire wall thingys but as they are rubbing when im going over bumps plastic is wearing away. Do you think adjustable coilovers would be any good as you can set how low you want to go??
Got one simple question, and hope someone can give me valid info:
Can H&R 29333-3 be fited to anny 1,9 l diesel Ibiza. Or there is reason why I should skip them because my car is 1,9 sport?
Price on german ebay is just shy above 100€.
I paid and ordered yellow Koni's today. Think, if fiting is possible that would give me 35-40 mm drop all around 'cause (i guess) Cupra should be somewhat lower than Sports in the beginning.
You can fit them with no problem.
JonnyH10
05-06-2011, 22:45
Been meaning to ask this for a while but never got round to it:
I've noticed the front of my MK4 (2004 1.2, 55k miles) sits quite low. I haven't changed any parts related to suspension, only put 17" wheels on. I never noticed this until I put the bigger wheels on, but I didn't think bigger wheels would make it look this low. As far as I know it is still on standard suspension.
The drivers side sits slightly lower than passenger side as well but I've been told this could be due to the drivers side getting more wear with the extra weight on that side.
Could there be a problem with the dampers or springs? I'm not complaining about it being lower but just want to know if there is a problem :P
weephil2003
07-09-2011, 17:58
hi
My plastic carriers are no longer there, any tips before if fit new bushes????
gregorsco
12-09-2011, 18:59
Hey,
I'm looking to lower my Ibiza Fr tdi (56plate) , could somebody tell me what i would need, eg.shorter drop links etc. My budget is quite low (about £250) obviously i can't afford coilovers, but what would be the best set up i could get for my budget and where could i buy from?
Cheers, John.
hey mate if you have no need for expensive coilovers for track use then check out blueline coilovers if you just want low then these are the daddys cos there only like £200-£250 depending on model and there tuc test so you know there not gona fall apart and kill you:drool:
andy_wpo
05-04-2012, 07:00
I didnt read the hole thread (sorry) and want some opinion about Jom vs.Ta-technix coilovers
hey guys my mate give me his coil overs for my ibiza front coils are in bad nick but the back coils are like new so i was thinking of putting the car down at the back with coils and jst gettin lowering springs for the front, because ibiza coilovers don't go low anyways. and then saving for nxt year to have a bag over coil set up . how low is the lowest springs u can get and manufactures names aswell please
regards matt
lusty2zero
06-05-2012, 13:55
Bought a set of Koni Strt springs and gas shocks for my mk4 FR after breaking a spring and they have made a huge improvement on the ride as it is not as harsh as it was obviously the FR is already lower than a standard car but it's dropped about 10mm from where it was. The kit was about £350 from Demon Tweaks Seat Ibiza (02-08) Koni STR.T Suspension Kit KON1110-7042
Bought a set of Koni Strt springs and gas shocks for my mk4 FR after breaking a spring and they have made a huge improvement on the ride as it is not as harsh as it was obviously the FR is already lower than a standard car but it's dropped about 10mm from where it was. The kit was about £350 from Demon Tweaks Seat Ibiza (02-08) Koni STR.T Suspension Kit KON1110-7042
Thinking of getting this kit as well, can u post up some pics of how it sits now? Cheers