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Who on the forum uses these products;
CAR LACK 68 Systematic Care & or followed by either the
CAR LACK 68 LONG LIFE SEALANT OR the P21s Wax.
How easy are any of these products to apply onto Emocian Red!
Any opinions welcome :clap:
I use it, great stuff, basically Klasse AIO in a different bottle. Pretty easy to go on and take off imo, either wipe on wipe off or leave.
I use it with Poorboys nattys on top. I'd go for all of those products above if you have them. Carlack 68 then the sealant then the P21s. :D
claudefrog
18-03-2006, 22:17
i use it also, find it fantastic... just do a panel at a time with it, makes it easier to remove :)
I use Klass AIO - very similar product :)
gets good reviews everywhere i read - and it can be used on wheels etc too so its all good.
I use it, great stuff, basically Klasse AIO in a different bottle. Pretty easy to go on and take off imo, either wipe on wipe off or leave.
I use it with Poorboys nattys on top. I'd go for all of those products above if you have them. Carlack 68 then the sealant then the P21s. :D
Phew!! Thats quite a bit of products to use
Phil ive heard the 68 Sealent is quite hard to apply?
Poorboys nattys??????:shrug:
Now guys..is the car lack 68,just a sealant or paint/colour restorer
claudefrog
18-03-2006, 22:25
just a sealant
cupra fan
18-03-2006, 22:36
car lack 68! Very good stuff!
Had the local paint shop mobile team around to remove a load of deep scratches( jet wash brush had a lovely stone stuck in it, ripped through the lacquer big style)
They seemed more intrested in what i had been polishing the car with, rather than repairing it!
Put it this way the left with all the polish detail (car lack 68) and were ordering some in to use at there bodyshop! (you can't get a better recommendation than that)
top product this is carlack 68 toped of with p21s
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y115/jonsmout/IMG_0079.jpg
Very nice!!
So do i need to Clay Bar the car to remove previous polish?
& if its only a sealant,how can it restore a dull pint finish??
Im sure this is a brill product but what if your car is Oxidized?
Ta much
mark@carsparkle
19-03-2006, 16:40
Thanks for the comments guys! :)
Foxes, if your car is not seriously contaminated then the Car-Lack68 will clean with the same effectiveness as a polish with the exception that it is completely non abrasive as it just contains chemical cleaning agents. Obviously the other part is that it leaves an acrylic seal on the car.
Mark
Mark,
Just been looking on other forums and they say its best if you can Clay Bar first!
My Emocion Red is only 6mth old but i do want the best.
Mark are you saying CarLack Is,or similar to a Cay bar?
Im ready to order soon!!
I use Car Lack 68 topped off with Collinite #845, I find the combination to be the Daddy and long lasting too :thumbup:
http://images16.fotki.com/v3/photos/2/229065/2777584/IMG_2790-vi.jpg
How about sorting a group buy on some Carlack 68 and P21s carnuba wax?
anyone be interested?
cupra fan
19-03-2006, 21:11
Yin, that's some shine :blink: amazing!
How about sorting a group buy on some Carlack 68 and P21s carnuba wax?
anyone be interested?
Yep im in for Group Buy:D
Also like to include the CL 68 Sealant Gloss :clap:
How about it Mark?
mark@carsparkle
19-03-2006, 22:24
Mark,
Just been looking on other forums and they say its best if you can Clay Bar first!
My Emocion Red is only 6mth old but i do want the best.
Mark are you saying CarLack Is,or similar to a Cay bar?
Im ready to order soon!!
Clay bars are excellent for removing surface based contaminants including rain deposits and other acidic debris. However, if you dont think your paintwork is bad enough to warrant a clay bar then I would advise against - especially if its your first time because you could end up micro marring the car if not treated with care. Normally this is 99.9% down to the fact not enough lube was applied to the bodywork so dont fret too much just make sure you use plenty of lube (somehow that sentence sounds wrong.. ;)).
We are actually awaiting our shipment of 500ml and 300ml bottles of the CarLack68 Systematic care - should be due in end of next week if you do not want to go for the full 1000ml version.
Oxidisation - Chemical cleaners such as CarLack-68/Klasse AIO rule supreme for removing oxidisation. :)
Mark
Sisson: there is actually a Seat forum 5% discount code for CARSparkle:
SC00050
mark@carsparkle
19-03-2006, 22:27
I forgot to mention actually..
Choices choices - now then, if you want to stick completely to the CarLack68 range of products (eg CarLack68-SC with CarLack68-SG (in other words Klasse AIO + Klasse SG) then SeatCupra have a 10% discount in effect.
SCCL00010
Mark.
With CarLack SC with CL,SG........can P21s also be added on top for more depth,gloss ect..?
Mark does the CL68 SC add more colour,or bring it back (if you know what i mean)
My Red car is like Yin's and that just about how i want it to look.
mark@carsparkle
20-03-2006, 00:04
Hi Foxes,
CL68-SC will clean the paint and bring back the 'look' if it has been oxidised. It will also add a high gloss effect that is caused by the acrylic seal that CL68SC leaves on the bodywork. CL68 LLS is mainly just an acrylic top up wax to make your seal more durable but again it will help towards the 'high reflective gloss look'. P21S can actually be layered on top of this and this will provide the 'depth of shine' and again it will add to the gloss look as P21S is very good at both.
Just to clarify though, Yin has used CL68 SC and P21S so if you like the look then thats all you need. Thats actually Yin's car on the CL68 SC product description. :)
Mark
Mark.
I think im sold on the CL68-SC!
Now is it to be CL68-SG or P21s-or even BOTH!!
And how good is the CarLack Shampoo or is there better?
(mark what is CL68 LLS???)
mark@carsparkle
20-03-2006, 14:25
Mark.
I think im sold on the CL68-SC!
Now is it to be CL68-SG or P21s-or even BOTH!!
And how good is the CarLack Shampoo or is there better?
(mark what is CL68 LLS???)
Sorry I keep forgetting to call it CL68-LLS that is the sealant glaze (CL68-SG) - its proper name is Car-Lack68 Long Life Sealant. :)
I will be using CL68 Shampoo throughout the week to give it a proper opinion but the ingredients are a near match for P21S as they are both citrus based and wax friendly. P21S Shampoo is superb by the way, its just that you get twice as much with the CL68 Shampoo. ;)
edited to add
Just getting my camera out now, about to try CarLack Plastic Cleaner.
Mark
Coincidentally I've just used CarLack 68 for the first time yesterday. Polished out some minor swirls using Clearkote Vanilla Moose hand glaze, then a layer of CL68 and topped off by two coats of Optimum Car Wax. Best shine I've yet seen on a silver car. It was good with just the OCW but with the CarLack underneath it really glows.
The results look superb, i'll stick an order in later Mark, for some of this myself :) Time i treated my car, its looking a bit dull with all the winter weather. :(
mark@carsparkle
20-03-2006, 22:25
The results look superb, i'll stick an order in later Mark, for some of this myself :) Time i treated my car, its looking a bit dull with all the winter weather. :(
Cheers mate! I actually managed to get the entire car done this weekend and there was just enough patchy sun to get the CL68SC + LLS on it. 45 mins later it rained. :banghead:
If you need any tips just give me a shout. ;)
Hey Mark (again)
The Car-Lack68 SC & LLS look really good, have had great reviews and so I'm sold. I just need a wee bit more info with regards the whole cleaning to polishing process. Now don't get me wrong; I've cleaned and polished many cars over the years, but none of those cars have been worthy (imo) of top quality products, and with my new LC (Black Magic 03 reg) I wanna treat her nice :)
So:
(1) wash (buckets of water; can't get hose near enough) and shampoo car with Car-Lack shampoo (seems a better deal as you say than P21S as it's 1000ml). Use a sheepskin mitt? Why does one have a polyester front? (from your website btw)
(2) Then apply Car-Lack68 SC? Neat? Apply with microfibre cloth A and polish/remove with microfibre cloth B?
How many applications would 1000ml give on average for my Leon?
(3) Then apply Car-Lack68 LLS? Obviously this is applied neat with microfibre cloth C and polished with microfibre cloth D?
Is the exact same process repeated whenever cleaning, washing, polishing the car, or is it slightly different now that it has a coat of Car-Lack products on it?
Thanks in advance for the info. Always good to get it right in me head before purchasing ;-)
EDIT: the discount thing - SeatCupra have a 10% discount in effect & Seat forum 5% discount code?? Which one is it and what's the code.
Cheers mate! I actually managed to get the entire car done this weekend and there was just enough patchy sun to get the CL68SC + LLS on it. 45 mins later it rained. :banghead:
If you need any tips just give me a shout. ;)
Hopefully the weather will hold out this weekend for me to do the job :p
I bet it snows. :ban:
Like Jaybee has said, only tip really is a just to be straight in my mind, the application process?
Wash >> Dry/Chamois >> Car-Lack68 SC? Apply Neat? Buff? >> then apply Car-Lack68 LLS? Neat?, Buff?? Top up with wax??
mark@carsparkle
22-03-2006, 17:44
Hopefully the weather will hold out this weekend for me to do the job :p
I bet it snows. :ban:
Like Jaybee has said, only tip really is a just to be straight in my mind, the application process?
Wash >> Dry/Chamois >> Car-Lack68 SC? Apply Neat? Buff? >> then apply Car-Lack68 LLS? Neat?, Buff?? Top up with wax??
Jaybee/Mark
You have pretty much got it in one, however I'm quite concerned as you have received additional instructions with the products. I am about to send both of you an email! ;)
Mark
mark@carsparkle
22-03-2006, 18:07
Hey Mark (again)
The Car-Lack68 SC & LLS look really good, have had great reviews and so I'm sold. I just need a wee bit more info with regards the whole cleaning to polishing process. Now don't get me wrong; I've cleaned and polished many cars over the years, but none of those cars have been worthy (imo) of top quality products, and with my new LC (Black Magic 03 reg) I wanna treat her nice :)
So:
(1) wash (buckets of water; can't get hose near enough) and shampoo car with Car-Lack shampoo (seems a better deal as you say than P21S as it's 1000ml). Use a sheepskin mitt? Why does one have a polyester front? (from your website btw)
(2) Then apply Car-Lack68 SC? Neat? Apply with microfibre cloth A and polish/remove with microfibre cloth B?
How many applications would 1000ml give on average for my Leon?
(3) Then apply Car-Lack68 LLS? Obviously this is applied neat with microfibre cloth C and polished with microfibre cloth D?
Is the exact same process repeated whenever cleaning, washing, polishing the car, or is it slightly different now that it has a coat of Car-Lack products on it?
Thanks in advance for the info. Always good to get it right in me head before purchasing ;-)
EDIT: the discount thing - SeatCupra have a 10% discount in effect & Seat forum 5% discount code?? Which one is it and what's the code.
If you buy CarLack Only products its 10%, if you purchase a range of stuff there is a 5% code. However, hold tight as I'm about to add accessories to the 10% code. :)
With regards to your bullet points:
1) The sheepskin mit with the polyester front. The polyester front is used to clean glass as the mesh more effectively removes the contaminants from the glass. Whatever you do, do not use the polyester mesh on paintwork.
2) Using MF Cloths for application is fine but my preference is to use a MF/Terry (slightly damp) applicator pad. Unfortunately I do not stock these. Never use a terry based cloth/applicatior to remove the excess Car-Lack68 SC/LLS.
3) Exactly the same Car-Lack68SC. However, the trick to getting the best result is to apply it as thinly as possible. Its much easier to remove and gives a high brilliant gloss look. Some pro's prefer to 'spit shine' the product by applying a demister to the bodywork using chilled distilled water prior to applying the CarLack LLS. Once the LLS has slightly hazed over (virtually no waiting time required - latent Wipe On Wipe OFF (WIWO) method) - buff to a high brillaint shine using a MF.
From a 1000ml bottle of Car-Lack68SC you will get approx 25-40 applications. However, bear in mind that you only use CL68SC once every 3-4 months as it contains cleaning agents and normally you use it to remove all the previous layers and to remove contaminants that have slightly penetrated the protective barriers (as well as adding the base acrylic layer). P21S Wax / Car-Lack68 LLS would be used every 1-2 weeks to build up the protective layers. Currently I am attempting to persuade the manufacturer to create larger bottles of LLS as it would make more sense.
CarLack + Mitts/Microfibre Discount 10% = SCCL00010
All products 5% discount = SC00050
Best regards,
Mark
Jaybee/Mark
You have pretty much got it in one, however I'm quite concerned as you have received additional instructions with the products. I am about to send both of you an email! ;)
Mark
Ive not got mine yet, so i'll go with whatever you say :D
mark@carsparkle
22-03-2006, 20:50
Ive not got mine yet, so i'll go with whatever you say :D
Heh, it should have actually read - you should have received additional instructions with your products as the labels on the products are pants. Basically, I think its down to the fact the english translation is really bad. However, we have obtained approval to print our own labels. :)
lol
I think ZBOYD means he (and me) haven't even ordered yet, let alone received any goods... but feel free to send us some :p
Again, thanks for the info and clarification.
So, after applying these two products, and a couple of weeks later the car needs another clean, I wash and clean with car shampoo, then apply just the Car-Lack68 LLS. The shampoo doesn't take the Car-Lack68 SC off I assume? (only itself does that then?)
Cheers
mark@carsparkle
22-03-2006, 22:20
lol
I think ZBOYD means he (and me) haven't even ordered yet, let alone received any goods... but feel free to send us some :p
Again, thanks for the info and clarification.
So, after applying these two products, and a couple of weeks later the car needs another clean, I wash and clean with car shampoo, then apply just the Car-Lack68 LLS. The shampoo doesn't take the Car-Lack68 SC off I assume? (only itself does that then?)
Cheers
Hmm I think Mark may have ordered unless there is someone out there who has the same name.. ;)
The shampoo is specifically designed not to remove previous layers of carnauba wax or sealants such as CarLack-68 SC. :)
Mark
Yer ive ordered :) I meant ive not yet received it, asked for it to be delivered to work, so if its come it'll be in the warehouse, or its on its way I guess.
mark@carsparkle
22-03-2006, 22:39
Yer ive ordered :) I meant ive not yet received it, asked for it to be delivered to work, so if its come it'll be in the warehouse, or its on its way I guess.
With any luck it should be at the warehouse, normally takes 48 hours absolutely max but we say 72hours on the site just in case RM have an issue.
Mark...how many layers can you apply ofCARLACK68(SC)!... before you apply CL68.LLS(SG) or any other product?
more the better?
mark@carsparkle
23-03-2006, 12:05
Mark...how many layers can you apply ofCARLACK68(SC)!... before you apply CL68.LLS(SG) or any other product?
more the better?
Hi Foxes,
Car-Lack68SC can only be applied once, this is down to the cleaning agents that remove dirt, grime and.. previous layers of wax and sealants. :)
However, Car-Lack68LLS is a pure acrylic sealant with no cleaning agents so you could then apply as many layers as you want of that particular product on top of the Car-Lack68SC
Mark
Mine arrived this morning Mark, cheers. Hopefully if the weather holds out, i'll get cracking this weekend. :)
mark@carsparkle
24-03-2006, 22:45
Mine arrived this morning Mark, cheers. Hopefully if the weather holds out, i'll get cracking this weekend. :)
Cool - let me know how you get on.
Dont wait more than 20 minutes from the first point of application in this sort of weather - it normally takes about 20 mins to apply it all over the car. So then, as soon as you have finished applying the stuff start removing the excess with a cloth.
As for the LLS just wipe it on as thinly as you can - give it a few mins and then take it off. If you want a more dense acrylic structure wait slightly longer but it can be a pain to take off. If you try and make the layer thicker by by putting more on - it wont make a difference as you will just remove more once you begin to remove the excess LLS.
ok pepes,before i order
can CL.SC..or.. CL.LLS remove light swirls caused by Seat neglegence[:@]
Paint was perfect uptil Weds!
P.s; i use washmit but do need some polish pads M/F towels ect.
mark@carsparkle
26-03-2006, 17:21
ok pepes,before i order
can CL.SC..or.. CL.LLS remove light swirls caused by Seat neglegence[:@]
Paint was perfect uptil Weds!
P.s; i use washmit but do need some polish pads M/F towels ect.
I guess if you let the Car-Lack SC or LLS haze over too much and you really put some elbow grease in to remove the stuff then you may end up swirling the paintwork due to too much pressure on the bodywork.
However, LLS and SC contain absolutely no abrasives so if applied properly it will be fine. :)
Mark
Mark
Have you got CL68 SC in 500ml bottle, or is it in shipment
mark@carsparkle
29-03-2006, 23:57
Mark
Have you got CL68 SC in 500ml bottle, or is it in shipment
Hi Foxes,
tried to call you but I got an invalid number. It is still in 'shipment' - however, we have a shipment from Germany waiting for us at the airport and the only thing we have ordered recently (from Germany) is the latest Car-Lack order. We are picking it up tomorrow morning - its 99.9% likely to be the Car-Lack. :)
Mark
Mark if thats the case, ill be going ahead with my order for CL,sc & CL,sg.
but only need the smaller 500 bottles.
may even go for PS21 aswell.
pls let us know mate.
cheers
mark@carsparkle
30-03-2006, 09:48
Mark if thats the case, ill be going ahead with my order for CL,sc & CL,sg.
but only need the smaller 500 bottles.
may even go for PS21 aswell.
pls let us know mate.
cheers
Hi Foxes,
Just to let you know everything is now back in stock. It seems they have reverted back to the older bottle design for the 500ml (ie exactly the same as Klasse AIO).
Best regards,
Mark Barnes
i use carlack 68, on my car.
bloody brillant stuff.
also use the klasse AIO & PS21 WAX.
wouldn,t use anything esle.
here are some pics:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/SIBBO19/MINEWIFESCARS.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/SIBBO19/d69b1d13.jpg
Hey wrx.
Your cupra looks lovely:funk:
Lovely shine.
ill put my order with mark & let you all know how it shines!!
Nice mods you got there too:clap:
Hi Foxes,
Just to let you know everything is now back in stock. It seems they have reverted back to the older bottle design for the 500ml (ie exactly the same as Klasse AIO).
Best regards,
Mark Barnes
Hey Mark
When i order..It will be the CL68 sc and not the Klasse AIO bottle that i will recieve?:think:
Is it just the package thts changed?
Ta much
Hey wrx.
Your cupra looks lovely:funk:
Lovely shine.
ill put my order with mark & let you all know how it shines!!
Nice mods you got there too:clap:
cheers m8.:D
Anyone also recomend a very good but no harsh SHAMPOO??!!
CL & PS21 SHAMPOO's look good?
tar peeps
Carlack Full System now brought.
Has anyone Clayed their car before the CL68 Treatment like Meguiars Clay Bar?
mark@carsparkle
06-04-2006, 22:27
Carlack Full System now brought.
Has anyone Clayed their car before the CL68 Treatment like Meguiars Clay Bar?
Hi Foxes,
I've just finalised the documentation for the LLS - will email the links to you now. :)
Mark
Finally got round to doing my car this weekend top to toe so to speak, having had a few bad weekends with the weather.
Wanted to spend a full day on it, as it needed the works, inside and out, been neglecting it a bit of late :whistle:
Must say im well impressed with the CarLack 68 treatments, i gave the car a good wash first, then used the clay bar on a few stubbon grimy bits, then rinsed it off once more, dried most of it off with one of my big towels, and finished off with the chamois, drips and stuff.
Used my swissol paint cleaner first as a pre treatment, and buffed off, then applied the Carlack 68 SC with a cotton applicator, which went on easily, left it for about 20-25mins, and buffed that away using a clean microfibre cloth. It was looking good after this, but then applied the LLS to the bodywork, applying and buffing one panel at a time.
I have to say was well impressed with the finish, the car looks great, well until i went to Oulton Park on Monday and got it covered in dust :doh:
But if the weather is ok on Saturday, i'll give it another goign over with the LLS now, to build on it.
Very easy to use, and gave great results. :)
Took a load of new pics at weekend, before i took it to Oulton Park. Some pics maybe a bit darker, it was edging onto early evening when i took them, buti took some close ups so you can see the shine etc.
Click link below.
ZBOYD'S SHINY LEON R (http://www.seatcupra.net/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.ShowItem&g2_itemId=4148)
P.S. Before anyone asks, I took my R & Cupra badges off the car, as they were putting it lightly, 'shagged', got some new ones from Dave at IMG, which are now back on the car, but took these before i put my badges back on. ;)
mark@carsparkle
18-04-2006, 13:13
Looking quite spectular Mark!
It would have been even more interesting if the sun had decided to come out and play when you took those shots. ;)
man i am in need of some help with mine Z
i washed it yesterday and the paint is fecked, fine scratches all over it and dullest of dull black
Hiding behind the grey Manchester clouds as per usual, id of taken some at Oulton Park on Monday, but it loses its charm covered in dust from the race track :p
man i am in need of some help with mine Z
i washed it yesterday and the paint is fecked, fine scratches all over it and dullest of dull black
You'll have to bring it round one weekend, and we'll see if we can do anything with it, but with it being black, it may need a doing professionally with rubbing compound and a rotary, but we can give it a go and see.
You'll have to bring it round one weekend, and we'll see if we can do anything with it, but with it being black, it may need a doing professionally with rubbing compound and a rotary, but we can give it a go and see.
ill prolly take you up on that, the guy at the bodyshop i use has also offered to help me out teaching me how to use a machine buffer/polisher
need to buy some decent stuff i think
ZBOYD kinda stole my thunder!
I got some Carlack 68 Shampoo, SC & LLS a few weeks ago but with the shitty weather just couldn't do it. Finally last week, the rain stopped, I had some time, and got round to cleaning the car.
Carlack shampoo with the lovely black wool mit - I love this mit, and it's just great with the 'netting' on one side for the windows. Highly recommend that mit.
Then applied the SC with a terry cloth - tried to keep it as thin as possible. Event hen I think in some places it was too much. The removal was fairly easy, except as I say in some places that I'd got a bit excited in. This gave a really good shine.
I actually had to wait a day as it got too dark.
So the next day I then applied the LLS (after a quick wet chamois clean - it hadn't rained and I hadn't used the car). This gave an even better shine.
So all in all a great set of products. Highly recommended. I might be putting in another order for my father-in-law who restores tractors to an amazing standard, and I'm sure would love these Carlack 68 products.
And Mark: thanks for sorting out the ordering issues I had.
I still havent got round to useing the CARLACK SYSTEM.
I really like a Pro to Detail my car useing the CL68 System. (some light swirling)