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POS NO CL DRIVER NAT CAR TIME LAPS GAP MPH
1 91 B Gary PREBBLE Rover 220 Coupe Turbo 1:17.508 9 85.92
2 89 A Keith MURRAY Audi A4 Quattro 1:17.709 9 0.201 85.70
3 65 B Ilsa COX Peugeot 206 GTi 1:18.471 8 0.963 84.87
4 63 B Brian COX Peugeot 206 GTi 1:18.668 8 1.160 84.66
5 64 B Tony DOLLEY Peugeot 206 GTi 1:18.848 8 1.340 84.46
6 88 B David URQUHART Peugeot 205 GTi 1:19.195 9 1.687 84.09
7 99 B Ian CRAIG BMW M3 1:19.297 9 1.789 83.98
8 68 B Nick MIZEN Rover 220 Turbo Coupe 1:19.397 9 1.889 83.88
9 87 A Steve TURVEY Subaru Impreza Turbo 1:19.520 8 2.012 83.75
10 82 B Ben URQUHART Peugeot 205 GTi 1:20.326 9 2.818 82.91
11 66 A Paul ASHTON Subaru Impreza Turbo 1:20.809 8 3.301 82.41
12 62 B Julian ELLISON Volvo S40 T4 1:20.900 9 3.392 82.32
13 71 A Mark HARRISON Mitsubishi Evo 8 1:20.916 6 3.408 82.30
14 55 B Bill BROCKBANK Seat Ibiza Cupra 1:21.489 8 3.981 81.72
15 86 B Angus DAWE BMW M3 1:21.726 7 4.218 81.49
16 47 C Simon SPEARING Peugeot 205 GTi 1:22.445 8 4.937 80.78
17 36 C Nigel MARSH Vauxhall Corsa 1:22.966 8 5.458 80.27
18 33 C Tony HUTCHINGS MG ZR 1:24.613 7 7.105 78.71
19 1 D R POYNTER-BROWN Vauxhall Corsa 1:25.101 8 7.593 78.26
20 84 B Carleton WILLIAMS Peugeot 205 GTi 1:25.350 8 7.842 78.03
21 90 B Nick CLARK Vauxhall Vectra GSi 1:26.197 8 8.689 77.26
22 60 C Paul GARDNER Citroen Saxo VTS 1:27.280 8 9.772 76.30
23 50 C Clifford TANG Honda Civic 1:28.102 8 10.594 75.59
24 70 B Roy MILLER Volkswagen Vento VR6 1:28.375 8 10.867 75.36
25 17 D Oliver LEWIS Peugeot 106 XSi 1:30.858 7 13.350 73.30
26 10 D Matt SKIDMORE Rover Mini 1:32.809 8 15.301 71.76
27 24 C Wayne OSBORNE Peugeot 205 GTi 1:33.715 7 16.207 71.06
28 38 C Alex FERGUSON Peugeot 205 GTi 1:34.716 3 17.208 70.31
29 19 D Eddie BENTON Rover Mini Cooper 1:40.412 7 22.904 66.32
Full racing at 16:45
http://www.msttiming.com/meeting.asp?event=61268&source=ccrc2006&eventtype=ccrcclub
Not a bad result for the 1st time out, I've highlighted the other class 'B' cars that bill's up against
Hopefully the race will go well!
mark sheerin
25-03-2006, 14:00
what spec is bills car....and what spec the 206gti's up at the sharp end...is it all modified?
Ruddmeister
25-03-2006, 14:04
Neither of the other Seat's racing then?
that lap seems a little slow for Bill he used to be up in the 1m19's perhaps 1min 18's (different tyres etc but old spec car)
Good for first time out but that Rover 220 turbo on Bills group looks bl00dy quick
the 206's have about 285bhp (shit the bed that's better than the Super Touring car engines in teh 406)
and I guess they have a significant weight advantage over the Ibiza
cpufreak
25-03-2006, 15:20
hmm, lets hope that chap named 'skidmore' doesn't live up to his name...
good luck Bill!
mark sheerin
25-03-2006, 17:17
Is the race late or under enquiry..no results yet
Dunno, still waiting to see myself.
the 206's have about 285bhp (shit the bed that's better than the Super Touring car engines in teh 406)
and I guess they have a significant weight advantage over the Ibiza
those longman engins are mad as, i know my mate has one in his
Bill has finished 6th :) Well done Bill. 5th in class, very commendable effort on your first weekend. congrats. :D
http://www.msttiming.com/result.asp?table=61268rc1csl&round=castlecombe.gif
And Keith Murray D.N.F :doh: Though he did get the fastest lap.
mark sheerin
25-03-2006, 17:40
Yeah well done Bill...good result.....looks like it was a wet one....:p
Ruddmeister
25-03-2006, 17:42
Well done bill 6th is very good indeed
Cut short by the looks of it too, either weather got too dodgy, or they cut it short as they were up against it on the timetable.
Only completed 10 laps, according to the race schedule, it was due to be a 12 lap race, unless they were under safety car at some point, im sure Bill will tell us though.
Ruddmeister
25-03-2006, 17:47
Probably the weather it's been pishing down all afternoon in the South West
Yer, started here just after i washed my car :p Was hoping to get busy with the Car Lack, but then the heavens opened :p bloody typical
Looking at Bills lap time at 1.36 'best' I think it might have been soggy!
Probably an incident to close it after it'd been running for so long.
Congratulations Billo :D
Great result for first race
Not bad for a Rookie:D
Wouldent like to put all that power down in the wet!
chrismac
25-03-2006, 18:24
Top result Bill! Well done!
8 cars safely despatched under racing conditions....:clap:
Qualifying seemed a little fraught with 30 odd cars all out together & maybe only 2 or 3 decent clear laps...
More to come im sure with further time & setup tweaks!!!:)
rain would have played into the 4wd guys hands.Very well done Bill.
if 5 of the top 6 were FWD, the 4WD can't have been that great..
3 4wd cars, 2 fastest laps were 4wd cars.
a fastest lap does not win a race..
but of the 6 top finishers, 5 were FWD. what results are you looking at where Rovers & pugs are 4wd?
James G60
25-03-2006, 19:25
Race was 10 Laps due to running behind time - no safety car.
Im sure Bill will be along to explain :) But true pace was never shown due to some problems.
Race was indeed very soggy! Fighting through to 6th was great to watch after some wheelspin off the line ;)
Next round should be excellent & hope for better weather!
As for the 4wd, the Evo Spun off on the 1st corner, Keith Murray Retired, & there were only 2 other Imprezas... Seemed to be an advantage in the wet although reliabilty & mistakes meant they didnt finish where they perhaps may have.
Well Done Bill :D
good result :D
Results look like the race was very interesting on bills part, must hav been going some to catch up that much. The future looks bright ;)
Race was 10 Laps due to running behind time - no safety car.
Im sure Bill will be along to explain :) But true pace was never shown due to some problems.
Race was indeed very soggy! Fighting through to 6th was great to watch after some wheelspin off the line ;)
Next round should be excellent & hope for better weather!
As for the 4wd, the Evo Spun off on the 1st corner, Keith Murray Retired, & there were only 2 other Imprezas... Seemed to be an advantage in the wet although reliabilty & mistakes meant they didnt finish where they perhaps may have.
Well Done Bill :D
One of the Imprezas retired on installation lap (mate of mine) and the other finished 2nd.
The winner Gary Prebble is awesomely quick and was on pole ahead of Murray in the 4WD Audi. Surprisingly not as it was tipping down it was Murray followed by Turvey in the Impreza with Prebble 3rd which set early pace. Prebble got by Turvey but never looked like catching Murray who seemed to have it under control until something broke.
Bills progress through the field was superb to watch.
Heres a few of my pics -
http://www.gizmo555.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images/cc250306/DSC_1043erb.JPG
http://www.gizmo555.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images/cc250306/DSC_1051erb.JPG
http://www.gizmo555.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images/cc250306/DSC_1060erb.JPG
http://www.gizmo555.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images/cc250306/DSC_1068erb.JPG
good stuff bill,if the weather was anything like up here then a tremendous effort.
my little un is sat on my lap going "brum brum car car "i think she likes it :Dnice pics mark ;)
Great pics, its missing some SCN stickers though, we'll have to send you some Bill ;)
ibizacupra
26-03-2006, 23:36
Cut short by the looks of it too, either weather got too dodgy, or they cut it short as they were up against it on the timetable.
Only completed 10 laps, according to the race schedule, it was due to be a 12 lap race, unless they were under safety car at some point, im sure Bill will tell us though.
The race was cut to 10 laps from the outset. no safety cars or anything. I think the event was running behind on the whole due to weather conditions, incidents on track etc. one extra sighting formation lap tho due to conditions being wet for race and dry for quali.
Reason for such crap times in quali is some 10psi of missing boost somewhere in our rush to get the car to race one at all. :doh:
Considering how it was driving as a whole in quali and in the race, I am very happy with the end result and a straight car. Much more to come when we now have a few weeks to take breath and actually finish some things on it. The g'ox breakage cost us all time. Not had a single night all week where I had'nt finished before midnight, and last week and the week before.... simply manic. Collected the car (its road legal and I drive it to the circuit!) from JBS friday night after journey from hell on the shite motorways.. left Glos 3:15pm got to Chesterfield 19:30.... should be 2 hours. [:@] Got home that night 02:20am saturday morning, up again 06:15am for getting car loaded up with stuff/tools etc.
Totally knackered.
slept well saturday night.
need more sleep now.. blummin clock change :doh:
looking forward to next one. with full power and some "special" things.
Survived Race #1. Got me 1st siggy.
jobs a goodun.
:)
ibizacupra
26-03-2006, 23:39
Great pics, its missing some SCN stickers though, we'll have to send you some Bill ;)
send em Z... and I'll see where I can put em.. ;)
We'll get you some made up Bill ;) When the Vinylstore reopens :p
Well done Bill. So next time you should have an extra 10psi!? That'll be useful (Providing its reliable).
Any idea what spec the David URQUHART 205 was?
What happened to Tims Ibiza?
Cheers
Ben
CustardCupra
27-03-2006, 18:38
Well done Bill .
Pity about the 10psi , Boost leak or problems with CC ?????
ibizacupra
27-03-2006, 19:03
Well done Bill .
Pity about the 10psi , Boost leak or problems with CC ?????
Thanks :thumbup:
probs with interaction of boost controller and new ecu software.... they did'nt like each other so limp mode and actuator pressure was all it would do. A consequence of last minute time pressures and getting to the track at all. I did'nt get to JBs until 7.30pm and got home 02.20am sat morning...
A few others did'nt manage to get their cars to the 1st race at all, so I count myself lucky (albeit extremely tired) to make race #1, let alone finish in top 6, given my abysmal quali position and crappy start. Never been good at standing starts... and boy does it show LOL.
removed controller and boost is whats programmed.
got to suss how to make em work together now as I like the in-car adjustment.
ibizacupra
27-03-2006, 19:04
Well done Bill. So next time you should have an extra 10psi!? That'll be useful (Providing its reliable).
Any idea what spec the David URQUHART 205 was?
What happened to Tims Ibiza?
Cheers
Ben
not sure on the 205, but its on t'bodies, with decent motor in it I think.
Tims not ready, but he will be out for Easter Monday one, along with Kevins Leon Cupra. Almost a SEAT fest :)
James G60
27-03-2006, 20:38
I noticed yours was the most luxurious car on the grid Bill... With all 4 leather door cards ;)
ibizacupra
28-03-2006, 12:15
I noticed yours was the most luxurious car on the grid Bill... With all 4 leather door cards ;)
complete with radio, component front speakers, crossovers, leccy windows, seat belts.
less than lightweight at this moment in time.
driven there and home again.
road legal race car
:)
ibizacupra
28-03-2006, 12:16
What about the s3?
what about it?
there was'nt an S3 there..
thought there was going to be, but maybe a red herring.
Yep.Didn't think anyone would seriously use a s3.
ibizacupra
28-03-2006, 15:48
it might be ok with haldex controller and fixed front-rear balance?
as per the mtm demo car, 60:40 split with controller,considering one of these myself.Mike thinks it's no good and will wear the haldex clutch significantly.There £1k to buy.
ibizacupra
28-03-2006, 18:32
I guess it depend on how much power is being proportioned and to what use the cars being subjected to. 15min race prolly not a desperate amount of wear unlike a road car
Wonder whether you can turn it off?
ibizacupra
28-03-2006, 18:53
dunno... seqshift do a haldex controller... thought it was pc programmable but I did'nt look into it very hard.
www.seqshift.com
http://www.seqshift.com/index.php?load=katalog&act=racing&sel=haldex
Looks interesting but it's sounds like it doesn't respond so well with the stock ecu in,probably better with a standalone etc.
mark sheerin
29-03-2006, 09:31
I have been told of a round £500 haldex conversion...its revo I believe thought not 100% sure
This could be of help;
http://www.eiptuning.com/eip/haldex.html
not a controller ,just a uprated haldex ecu.
Ruddmeister
29-03-2006, 19:29
not a controller ,just a uprated haldex ecu.
really it says
At the bottom of that page EIP do a
4 Motion Race Controller
EIP offers a 4 Motion Race Rear Drive Controller that enables a 20/80 and 50/50 power ratio setting. The biasing from rear to front is automatic. When torque exceeds the "recommended safe limits", the OEM built-in safety valves are incorporated to enable the transfer of power. The race controller works faster than the HPP by already being set to a full 50/50 split, it does not rely on the inputs of the TPS or MAF to change the power ratio. The race controller is proactively 50/50.