Seat Ibiza Mk5 2013 due cambelt change, looking for cheaper garages in kent

woozyuk

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hi all. just had my 2013 Ibiza Tocas major service today, apparently it is due a cambelt and water pump renewal in march. I had to pay £500 today already for the service and mot at Seat in Sidcup. The car has done just over 33000 miles. Im the second owner. Does anyone know of cheaper garages in kent that could do the job cheaper? many thanks
 

dm222

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I'm not from UK, but I think I read here that the price is fixed and you can get the values on SEAT website... I remember I found the price to be very reasonable, wish I had fixed prices like that here, I am stolen everytime I go to the dealer... ( I think it was somewhere between 300£ and 400£???!?!!)


regarding no answers... maybe because most users, like you probably, only pass by when they need help...

And some don't even bother to post a response after getting the help they needed.
 
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TopBanana

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how the hell are you guys paying this much, i use SG Petch in Durham they use SEAT fixed price maintenance plan, a major service is £289, a minor £169, cam and water pump £469
 

RUM4MO

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how the hell are you guys paying this much, i use SG Petch in Durham they use SEAT fixed price maintenance plan, a major service is £289, a minor £169, cam and water pump £469

It could be, location location location, plus, maybe once the car is outside the 3 years point in its life, the normal menu servicing prices go out the window, also, at certain intervals in a car's life, some extra parts get changed which will not normally get included in simple menu prices minor/major - like spark plugs, air filter.

Getting cam belt including water pump replaced, I've only every used a good VW Group Indie and so paid less money on labour while still getting the correct genuine parts fitted and their techs are all VW Group trained.

I can't believe that there are not VW Group Indie in Kent, so find them and use them!

Edit:- anyway, my excuse for not replying quicker is that I have been in Lisboa for a few days holiday!
 
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RUM4MO

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so we are neighbors for a few days :)


No, were not are, we flew out on Monday 12th night arriving just after midnight! Returned back on Friday 16th.

A very nice place, but a very big place, we need to come back to see more.

What amazed me, and maybe I'm easily amazed, was, when we had a coffee and P De Nata at a small café, a smart card was left at the table, you just took it inside, pushed it into a dedicated pay point, stuffed money in and got change - while the serving staff got on with their jobs, now that is progress!

ePassport readers, still a lot of work needing to be done there - not just Portugal, first ePassport reader I used was in Maderia many years ago, the border security people almost forced us to use them there - which is good as people don't trust some of that new tech stuff! Maybe in Lisbon airport not enough direction on how to use them and so queues built up, in Edinburgh, quite the opposite, too much information to read and you find that you have (1) not placed your feet on the GREEN markings on the floor, (2) not held you head up and looked into the eye reg device, then find that you have been let through????? Edinburgh Airport, what is that all about?

My oldest daughter had been living in OZ then KL for maybe 4 years so she hopped on and off cheap flights normally with ease, but returning to UK and finding that first you must take your glasses off - then she obeys but is then working blind - so that just older people like my wife and I, that needs sorting. But that would leave the Italian border security gang unable to try to terrorise ordinary honest travellers?
 

dm222

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Btw Madeira is Portugal

I live now near Lisbon (Sintra) but I'm from the north 50km from Porto
 
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RUM4MO

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Btw Madeira is Portugal

I live now near Lisbon (Sintra) but I'm from the north 50km from Porto

Oh yes I know that Madeira is Portugal.

We went to Porto a few years ago, stayed in Porto for the first 2 or 3 days and had a good look around Porto and across to Vila Nova Do Gaia, then picked up a hire car and drove around quite a bit including the Douro valley, Viana Do Castello, Villa Real and a few other places, staying in Pousadas, we ran out of time so did not get out to Sintra - this time!

Edit:- actually we have also been to the far South of Portugal very near the river/border, at that time it was mainly Portuguese people that went on holiday to that area and a few German families.
 
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PeterA

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Maybe too late but try Apollo autos in Erith,always used them when i was down south,good honest no messing garage.
 

Bobble

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Guess I was right again!
Late reply (I'm a newbie), but I have a couple of VAG group cars with the 1.4 DOHC engines. A 2011 Seat Ibiza ST and a 2000 Polo. I bought the Seat having had a good experience with the Polo, so chose it to rationalize my oil and oil filter stock.

I bought the Polo three years ago, with only 25,000 miles on it, a poor service history, and no record of it having had a replacement cam belt or water pump. It was an elderly relative's car, and, while I offered more, he insisted I pay him £250. I was paranoid for a few months, about the chances of cam belt failure, but it didn't happen. I had a few jobs that affected its roadworthiness to perform before I got to the cam belt swap, and some tools to buy. The task of swapping the belts and water pump is not at all bad on the Polo, but needs a good long breaker bar to achieve the torque to get to the 90 degree angle setting after the initial torque.

You'd need ramps, torque wrench, long breaker, crankshaft pulley holding tool, engine support bracket (I got mine from Germany for £35) I used to fabricate them for VL Churchill, and I couldn't compete with that price... and, of course, camshaft pulley holding tool, or a couple of 8mm drills (tape over the sharp ends to avoid lacerating yourself!) or bits of silver steel.

I was unwilling to spend the thick end of £500 having a cam belt changed on a car that cost only £250, so I gambled on performing the task myself. I have done a few before on other marques, though. Volvo Austin SOHC engines, Vauxhall DOHC, I took a long time on that, the first VAG one, but next time, I'll just get on with it, instead of dithering and agonizing. I've never been able to find a manual for the Mk5 Ibizas, but, being Polo based, with belt driven cams, I'll use the Polo manual for guidance if I still have the Ibiza when the time comes for its cam belt change. The parts for the cam belt / water pump swap came in at substantially less than £100, including the necessary crankshaft screw (a stretch bolt) There are engine bracket stretch bolts which ought to be changed, too, for fear of subsequent failure.

I'd perhaps not have risked the cam belt change on a higher value car, though, I have to admit, but £500 on a £250 car?

While I'd counsel not to be too paranoid about cam belt change intervals whether in terms of miles or years, (see how long my Polo belts survived), but I would also say that the Seat will have higher lift cams than my Polo, so the belts (two) will be working a little harder. The other thing is that I once had a cambelt fail on a 1987 Ford Orion when it was only 11 months old, with 11,000 miles on it, and cost (Ford) £1,100 to fix, the garage told me, an experience that often comes to mind at these times.


Best of luck.
 
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