Cupra & Cupra R p/n's for Cams, Coolers, Clutch/ Flywheel/ Box, Turbo, Fuel Pump etc

Al

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Spoke to a reliable source there just now with dealer ETKA and got the following information

We are assuming that based on the 240bhp posted in the 2010 ETKA, that the BWJ engine has been replaced by the CDLD. No access to previous version of ETKA means that it is possible that moving forward, some of the parts listed for BWJ and BWA (K03s 2.0T in Sport and FR) are to use upgraded replacements that may carry adjustments in a different unit using the same part number as previously.

The engine code for the Cupra R is CDLA.

Therefore - Engine Codes
2007-2009 Cupra - BWJ
2010 Cupra - CDLD
2010 Cupra R - CDLA

Now for the details;

Turbo
BWJ - 06F 145 702C
CDLD - 06F 145 702C
CDLA - 06F 145 702C

Intercooler
BWJ - 1K0 145 803 S
CDLD - 1K0 145 803 S
CDLA - 1K0 145 803 AK

Fuel Pump (Interesting one, but possibly subject to update on ETKA)
BWJ - 06F 127 025J
CDLD - 06F 127 025J
CDLA - 06F 127 025J
Be aware that the BWA also uses this same fuel pump. Also note that this part could be direct replacement for all previous fuel pumps to contain uprated internal parts, but still using the old part number.

Intake Camshaft
BWJ - 06F 109 101 G
CDLD - 06F 109 101 H
CDLA - 06F 109 101 H

Exhaust Camshaft
BWJ - 06F 109 102D
CDLD - 06F 109 102D
CDLA - 06F 109 102D

Injectors
BWJ - 06F 906 036F
CDLD - 06F 906 036F
CDLA - 06F 906 036F

Gearbox
BWJ - Code KDU (07-08) and KPA (08-09) - 02Q 300 042D - Gearing 72.17.22
CDLD - Code KZW - 02Q 300 045J - Gearing 70.17.22
CDLA - Code LMN - 02Q 300 046J - Gearing 72.17.22

Flywheel
BWJ - 06F 105 266M
CDLD - 06F 105 266M
CDLA - 06F 105 266M

Clutch (Clutch plate and Pressure Plate)
BWA - 022 141 015R
BWJ - 022 141 015R
CDLD - 022 141 015R
CDLA - 022 141 015R

Air Intake 3 Piece
BWA - 1K0 805 971C Feeds in to 1K0 805 962C Lid is 1K0 805 965C - Oval Trumpet - 1K0129 618AH
BWJ - 1K0 805 971C Feeds in to 1K0 805 962C Lid is 1K0 805 965C - Oval Trumpet - 1K0129 618AH
CDLD - 1K0 805 971C Feeds in to 1K0 805 962C Lid is 1K0 805 965C - Oval Trumpet - 1K0129 618AH
CDLA - 1K0 805 971C Feeds in to 1K0 805 962C Lid is 1K0 805 965C - Oval Trumpet - 1K0129 618AH

Air Filter Assembly (Engine Cover)
BWA - 06F 133 837AA (TFSi)
BWJ - 06F 133 837AD (CUPRA)
CDLD - 06F 133 837AL (CUPRA)
CDLA - 06F 133 837AN (CUPRA R)

Cat Back Exhaust
BWJ - 1P0 253 181H
CDLD - 1P0 253 181H
CDLA - 1P0 253 181M

Downpipe/Catalyst
BWJ - 1K0 254 508B up to 07 - 1K0254 507L 07 on
CDLD - 1K0 254 512L
CDLA - TBC

Note that the emissions for the 2010 Cupra are lower than the 2007-2009 Cupra, and that the differences may well be down to the gearing differences and the intake cam profile as well as the downpipe and possible ECU changes.

Hope this is of interest, especially for those hoping for a magical upgrade to the fuel cut issues faced on BWA/BWJ engined cars with remaps and intake upgrades and for others who think that the wear on the camshaft/follower/fuel pump is going to go away.
 
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Fuel Pump (Interesting one, but possibly subject to update on ETKA)
BWJ - 06F 127 025J
CDLD - 06F 127 025J
CDLA - 06F 127 025J
Be aware that the BWA also uses this same fuel pump. Also note that this part could be direct replacement for all previous fuel pumps to contain uprated internal parts, but still using the old part number.

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BWJ - 06F 127 025J just to check this item code is also for the BWA coded engine aswell? and that it fixes the fuel problem issue?
 

Al

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No - The part numbers listed are from the latest ETKA.

It is often that case that VAG will use a part number for a widget, modify it, and retain the same part number.

Therefore the fuel pump 06F 127 025J from a BWA/BWJ engined car could well be different from the fuel pump 06F 127 025J found in CDLD and CDLA engine cars from 2010, but as they have the same form factor, they would be the parts used moving forward as and when they are required for replacement on BWA/BWJ engines.

Unfortunately, it might only be possible to see the difference (if there is any) between a 2007 06F 127 025J Fuel Pump and a 2010 06F 127 025J fuel pump on a work bench with the pump in bits, or through logging it while fitted on a remapped car.

Reading between the lines though, it means that the 2010 Cupra has the same fuel pump as the 2010 Cupra R. Therefore, it looks like the main difference between the 2010 Cupra and Cupra R is the intercooler and ECU code. I will return gearbox part numbers tomorrow.
 
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robdf2

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good find AL ;)
the only important bit for me is the fuel pump , are you saying that all models of the Cupra have the same standard pump according to the ETKA listing?.
 
good find, i wonder if the intercooler is the same as the S3 ?

Do we think the intake and exhaust has been changed as the video posted on here and the brief write up in autocar seem to suggest that its a bit more sporty sounding with an increase in induction noise.
 

robdf2

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good find, i wonder if the intercooler is the same as the S3 ?

Do we think the intake and exhaust has been changed as the video posted on here and the brief write up in autocar seem to suggest that its a bit more sporty sounding with an increase in induction noise.

i think they have a proper exhaust manufactuer on board making a proper exhaust m8 ;)
 

Al

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Good info Al,

Isn't the fuel pump driven off the intake shaft? The revision on the newer cars may just aid fuel delivery?? Its a theory anyway. :)

You are right Mark - the pump is driven off the intake cam courtesy of a wee follower between the pump and the camshaft.

I had thought about the cam profile being different to help maintain the fuel pressure, but having hurt my brain thinking about it for a while, I cant see how it would solve the issue especially when you consider the internals of the pump would still be a limiting factor.
 

Poverty

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You are right Mark - the pump is driven off the intake cam courtesy of a wee follower between the pump and the camshaft.

I had thought about the cam profile being different to help maintain the fuel pressure, but having hurt my brain thinking about it for a while, I cant see how it would solve the issue especially when you consider the internals of the pump would still be a limiting factor.

Whilst I remember mate, I changed the plugs for a colder set and the hesitation still appears to be there, but wont know for definite till my revo settings are adjusted, as currently they are all at 0 across the board after removing the battery.
 

Al

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Whilst I remember mate, I changed the plugs for a colder set and the hesitation still appears to be there, but wont know for definite till my revo settings are adjusted, as currently they are all at 0 across the board after removing the battery.

If they are at 0 for boost, fuel and timing, it wont rev past about 2000 or 3000rpm mate. You sure thats what it is set at? Revo Stock is Boost 6, Timing 3 and Fuel 9 :)
 
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Poverty

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If they are at 0 for boost, fuel and timing, it wont rev past about 2000 or 3000rpm mate. You sure thats what it is set at? Revo Stock is Boost 6, Timing 3 and Fuel 9 :)

Well I can only go by what I read on mk5gti.com, but revo did confirm in that thread that if the battery gets disconnected for over 20 mins the map will go to "stock" mode. Apparently revo stock mode runs slightly less boost than SEATs own map.
 

Al

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That may be the case lad :)

Revo "Stock" is Boost 6, Timing 3 and Fuel 9 though. Try running 0 0 0 and you will see what I mean ;). Its defo "Valet mode" :)

Interesting about the flat spot though. I will send you a PM to save cluttering this thread up.

Al
 
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Poverty

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That may be the case lad :)

Revo "Stock" is Boost 6, Timing 3 and Fuel 9 though. Try running 0 0 0 and you will see what I mean ;). Its defo "Valet mode" :)

Interesting about the flat spot though. I will send you a PM to save cluttering this thread up.

Al

Yes you are right, 0 o o is valet mode. Alright will be awaiting your pm.
 

Al

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Updated to include transmissions, clutches and exhausts in post 1
 

warren_cox

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I thought I read 'somewhere'(?) that the TFSi EA888 engine fuel pump is driven off the inlet camshaft, and the later TSi engine pump was driven by the exhaust camshaft (hence the same part has been used, but just a different method of driving it)?

Very good info though, well done!:clap:
 
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