melton1
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timing chain
there is a repair kit modified tensioner and guides.....
there is a repair kit modified tensioner and guides.....
im surprised to hear all these recommendations to fit timing chain kits. We have had loads of cars with this problem at our dealership but 99% of the time all thats needed is the tensioner 03E109507S (£18) and the guide 03E109469 (£3) You would be very unlucky to need sprockets or chains. After all, its the tensioner is the culprit . . . . . . .
Sorry its not really a diy job. Even our SEAT guys take a couple of hours or more plus you need special tools although I can supply these quite cheaply. If your car is 02 it may well have had modified parts already.
only by stripping down and checking - if you have it down that far, may as well do the lot anyway
only by stripping down and checking - if you have it down that far, may as well do the lot anyway
Sorry to drag up an old thread, but I would have thought that Seat dealers would either update their service records or add a note into the cars service book so that this work/improvement was recorded - is this not how its done?
This year, after finding out about this chain problem, just weeks after buying my Son a '03 Reg 1.2s IBIZA, I had a new chain, tensioner, and guide fitted at his SEAT dealership, along with an oil & filter change,+ air filter and pollen filter, at a cost of £376 inc VaT. Unfortunately the rebuild of the auxialliaries drive system was insecure, allowing the belt to fail, with gross knock-on effects, including the new chain jumping the exhaust cam sprocket, bending all 6 valves.
The damage was covered by the garage ( more than £1000 I guess ) , but I had to have my Son towed by the A.A., and bought a year's cover, as my confidence is at a low ebb.
He has since had the ignition coil-pack problems, outside the extended 5-year cover period, so the first cost £70 at SEAT, and I installed the other 2 revised ones myself, for £54 the pair.
Hot on the heels of this job, the top LAMBDA sensor failed, but the dealer did a special price on this, so fair-do's.
Courtesy cars were excellent, and this may have something to do with the dealer being also the SKODA and AUDI dealers covering a large area.
The MoT done prior to purchase required a new front spring and a rear bush on the other side lower wish-bone, and I had to put out £176 to have the seller fit pairs, to ensure safe handling, as the salesman failed to understand such simple logic, but I had experienced the same attitude with a 6-month old Renault which had one solid rear shocker. I had 2 new GABRIELS fitted for the value of the RENAULT credit-note.
The car has had a new SEAT radio/CD and a door-lock this year by the seller, and other work for warranty included a battery, rear wiper motor, and the early recall for the crank-shaft end-seal, plus the usual wash-wipe pipe clips. No door seal or wind noises.
Stone-chip damage is typical of today's water-based paints, so use a good car-wash that stops rust, and get the touch-up kit.
Shock-absorbers still good at 45,000 miles, sounds great and corners flat, with germanic front seats;-- good bolsters. Exhaust back-box will be £130 soon.
Good grief - I really feel for you. I really couldn't be done with all that stuff - years ago, maybe, but not now. So I helped my daughter buy a new 54reg 1.2S.
It has had coil failures twice - once at home and the other while in mid-Wales, but has otherwise been OK.
However I was pretty miffed that it failed its 4yr MOT at 34K miles on a worn front suspension bush and uneven rear brakes. Tried to get the dealer to ask SEAT to cover the bush replacement but they wouldn't have any of it. Not sure if they were real faults or the dealer just scamming us.
By the way ...
Hi, I'm new to the forum. I was quite concerned to read about all the timing chain problems as I thought an engine without a toothed rubber belt would be a better bet in terms of reliability. My Ibiza is a 53 plate 1.2 with 44k miles - can anyone tell me when the modification to the tensioner / chain came in and if my car is likely to be okay. Or do you recommend changing the chain anyway ? Thanks for any advice ...... Ron T
Hi, I'm new to the forum. I was quite concerned to read about all the timing chain problems as I thought an engine without a toothed rubber belt would be a better bet in terms of reliability. My Ibiza is a 53 plate 1.2 with 44k miles - can anyone tell me when the modification to the tensioner / chain came in and if my car is likely to be okay. Or do you recommend changing the chain anyway ? Thanks for any advice ...... Ron T
Thanks for the replies, it looks like I've got a bit more digging and reading to do. I thought when we bought the car that it sounded a little bit "agricultural" but was led to believe that that was normal. I've e-mailed Seat UK customer service with our chasis number to try and determine if our car is potentially at risk, but will also take your advice regards contacting our local dealer as I know it was originally supplied by them and serviced there up until December '06. I took on the routine oil changes & maintenance myself from Dec '07 as the car was out of warranty and the dealer charges were a bit expensive and they didn't fill me with confidence regards their capabilities. I'm a fairly proficient and capable DIY mechanic, so do you think the replacement is something I could undertake myself. Thanks again for your help. Ron T