Hid's affecting radio signal. - SEAT Cupra.net

Mr_Magistus · 21-04-2007, 17:29

*** posted this on the fitting guide too for suggestions

*** fitted a set of HID's but when on they are affecting the radio signal. *** done the following

1). disconnect both and tried my old bulbs....radio is fine

2). connected left side only.....radio affected

3). connected right side only....radio affected

4). removed and re-fitted them and still no joy....

anyone anymore suggestions?. *** got the standard seat radio in.

Cheers

Mr_Magistus · 21-04-2007, 17:30

And can someone tell me why (I ' v e) comes up as ***

*ChrisUK* · 21-04-2007, 17:55

txt speak filter

**Brummy** · 21-04-2007, 17:57

you need to put the apostrophe in, fella...
bloody commoners.. learn to spake proppa.. wassamadder wiff ya?

*dmmsta* · 21-04-2007, 17:58

It's only "i v e" (***) that get's filtered "i've" is fine...

*dmmsta* · 21-04-2007, 18:02

Just had a thought, is it acutally drop of radio signal or is it earth static from somewhere...ie - does it do it when tape / CD's are played or just radio?

Where about's are you located?

tinbum · 21-04-2007, 18:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmmsta

Just had a thought, is it acutally drop of radio signal or is it earth static from somewhere...ie - does it do it when tape / CD's are played or just radio?

I agree, very likely to be an earth problem, dont see how it could actually effect the radio signal !!!

Mr_Magistus · 21-04-2007, 18:56

Doesnt do it when ive got the CD or tape on at all

Cyclone · 21-04-2007, 19:48

When these lamps are in operation a continuous arc is produced across the two electrodes which causes the gas/metal combination inside the glass tube to glow and produce light. When the flow of electricity is forced to arc, it sends out an electromagnetic pulse, which is the cause of your interference on your radio.

Radio receivers are very sensitive to this type of interference, and as the lamp is constantly arcing, the interference will probably be heard as a buzzing.

The best advice I can offer is to make sure your lamp ballasts and cables are well away from your aerial coax. Also make sure the coax sleeving is correctly connected as it's there to shield the main signal in the centre and prevent interference.

Mr_Magistus · 21-04-2007, 20:09

Wheres the ariel coax cable then please?

I`ve got one ballast stuck to the water bottle and the other to the side of the battery.

*RobM* · 21-04-2007, 21:21

Mine are in very similar positions to yours and I have no troubles. And as far as I know, all components of the audio system, including the radio components, are well away from these areas.

I think it might be something to do with the powered aerial, but I'm just not sure what. The only thing I can think of trying, is ordering the wiring harness to go along with the HID kit. There was one for sale in the For Sale forum here recently, so might be worth checking to see if that's still for sale before ordering though.

Mr_Magistus · 21-04-2007, 22:32

Im right in saying its Red to blue and Brown to black for the wiring.

I had the HID's off a mate and he says they were ok but couldnt say if he had notice any chance in the radio

dsrr · 22-04-2007, 00:14

It's down to different brands of HID's, I have 2 x HID kits fitted, one to the Main which doesn't cause any interference and one to the driving lamps which does but only on stations with a fairly weak signal, down to the shielding used on your kit

Cyclone · 22-04-2007, 01:11

If you're using a signal booster for the radio, then that would certainly amplify not just the wanted radio signals, but also the interference from the lamp system.

The coax aerial cable goes from the aerial at the rear of the roof, to the back of the radio slot. Checking the outer copper shield is intact in the coax going into the back of the radio could be a start.

Otherwise as dssr says, could be poor shielding on your ballasts.

Can't really think of anything else other than putting ferrite blocks on the back of power cables on radio to absorb unwanted RF? That's probably a long shot though.

I'll have a think!!

tinbum · 22-04-2007, 11:16

Simple answer, dont listen to the radio !!!! lol
Get an ipod

*CHR15B* · 22-04-2007, 12:07

I had this problem with the Toledo, but don't notice it anywhere near as bad on the Ibiza.

Mr_Magistus · 23-04-2007, 09:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsrr

It's down to different brands of HID's, I have 2 x HID kits fitted, one to the Main which doesn't cause any interference and one to the driving lamps which does but only on stations with a fairly weak signal, down to the shielding used on your kit

Thanks, Any ideas on whats the best way on shielding the ballasts?

dsrr · 23-04-2007, 09:55

You can get plug in ballast shields, I looked into it but the interference is so little only notice it on quiet tracks with a bad signal

leon cupra r · 12-05-2010, 16:08

I have just bought a set of 6ks from HIDS4U and am also having this issue... doesnt seem to be frequency related as it does it on kiss @ 101mHz and radio 1 @ 99.5mHz....

Obviously not a cheapo kit from ebay, would have thought that the ballasts etc would have been appropriately shielded etc?

Just wondering if anyone has found a solution to this problem?

Cheers
Ben

*LEE69* · 12-05-2010, 16:16

http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=241817

21-04-2007, 17:29	#1
Mr_Magistus who am i??? Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK Posts: 184	Hid's affecting radio signal. * posted this on the fitting guide too for suggestions * fitted a set of HID's but when on they are affecting the radio signal. * done the following 1). disconnect both and tried my old bulbs....radio is fine 2). connected left side only.....radio affected 3). connected right side only....radio affected 4). removed and re-fitted them and still no joy.... anyone anymore suggestions?. * got the standard seat radio in. Cheers

21-04-2007, 17:55	#3
ChrisUK Eat My Smoke Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Liverpool, UK Posts: 2,554	txt speak filter __________________ 2007 Freelander 2 HSE - Current Car 2005 LEON FR TDI - Sold

21-04-2007, 17:57	#4
Brummy Cookie Monster.. Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Standing up in the pouring down.. Posts: 8,087	you need to put the apostrophe in, fella... bloody commoners.. learn to spake proppa.. wassamadder wiff ya? __________________ *John* My Car/R.R. thread

21-04-2007, 17:58	#5
dmmsta Sold car - bought bike Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Maidstone - Kent Posts: 863	It's only "i v e" (*) that get's filtered "i've" is fine... __________________ The Dmmsta ...** Flash Red Leon Cupra - Gone but never forgotten!

21-04-2007, 18:02	#6
dmmsta Sold car - bought bike Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Maidstone - Kent Posts: 863	Just had a thought, is it acutally drop of radio signal or is it earth static from somewhere...ie - does it do it when tape / CD's are played or just radio? Where about's are you located? __________________ The Dmmsta ... Flash Red Leon Cupra - Gone but never forgotten!

21-04-2007, 17:30	#2
Mr_Magistus who am i??? Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK Posts: 184	And can someone tell me why (I ' v e) comes up as ***

21-04-2007, 18:56	#8
Mr_Magistus who am i??? Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK Posts: 184	Doesnt do it when ive got the CD or tape on at all

21-04-2007, 19:48	#9
Cyclone Newbie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Surrey Posts: 31	When these lamps are in operation a continuous arc is produced across the two electrodes which causes the gas/metal combination inside the glass tube to glow and produce light. When the flow of electricity is forced to arc, it sends out an electromagnetic pulse, which is the cause of your interference on your radio. Radio receivers are very sensitive to this type of interference, and as the lamp is constantly arcing, the interference will probably be heard as a buzzing. The best advice I can offer is to make sure your lamp ballasts and cables are well away from your aerial coax. Also make sure the coax sleeving is correctly connected as it's there to shield the main signal in the centre and prevent interference.

21-04-2007, 20:09	#10
Mr_Magistus who am i??? Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK Posts: 184	Wheres the ariel coax cable then please? I`ve got one ballast stuck to the water bottle and the other to the side of the battery.

21-04-2007, 21:21	#11
RobM Disturbed.... Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Southampton Posts: 5,011	Mine are in very similar positions to yours and I have no troubles. And as far as I know, all components of the audio system, including the radio components, are well away from these areas. I think it might be something to do with the powered aerial, but I'm just not sure what. The only thing I can think of trying, is ordering the wiring harness to go along with the HID kit. There was one for sale in the For Sale forum here recently, so might be worth checking to see if that's still for sale before ordering though.

21-04-2007, 22:32	#12
Mr_Magistus who am i??? Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK Posts: 184	Im right in saying its Red to blue and Brown to black for the wiring. I had the HID's off a mate and he says they were ok but couldnt say if he had notice any chance in the radio

22-04-2007, 00:14	#13
dsrr Full Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 233	It's down to different brands of HID's, I have 2 x HID kits fitted, one to the Main which doesn't cause any interference and one to the driving lamps which does but only on stations with a fairly weak signal, down to the shielding used on your kit

22-04-2007, 01:11	#14
Cyclone Newbie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Surrey Posts: 31	If you're using a signal booster for the radio, then that would certainly amplify not just the wanted radio signals, but also the interference from the lamp system. The coax aerial cable goes from the aerial at the rear of the roof, to the back of the radio slot. Checking the outer copper shield is intact in the coax going into the back of the radio could be a start. Otherwise as dssr says, could be poor shielding on your ballasts. Can't really think of anything else other than putting ferrite blocks on the back of power cables on radio to absorb unwanted RF? That's probably a long shot though. I'll have a think!!

22-04-2007, 11:16	#15
tinbum Full Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 156	Simple answer, dont listen to the radio !!!! lol Get an ipod

22-04-2007, 12:07	#16
CHR15B Now driving Jap... Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ayrshire, Scotland. Posts: 2,981	I had this problem with the Toledo, but don't notice it anywhere near as bad on the Ibiza. __________________ Not driving a SEAT anymore!

23-04-2007, 09:55	#18
dsrr Full Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 233	You can get plug in ballast shields, I looked into it but the interference is so little only notice it on quiet tracks with a bad signal

12-05-2010, 16:08	#19
leon cupra r LCR 225 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Wiltshire/W Yorkshire Posts: 439	I have just bought a set of 6ks from HIDS4U and am also having this issue... doesnt seem to be frequency related as it does it on kiss @ 101mHz and radio 1 @ 99.5mHz.... Obviously not a cheapo kit from ebay, would have thought that the ballasts etc would have been appropriately shielded etc? Just wondering if anyone has found a solution to this problem? Cheers Ben __________________ Leon Cupra R (BAM) - Forge Stage 1, 007p, Jetex Cone, Cruise Control, Boot Tray + 1 broken Splitter (thanks snow!) Readers Ride:http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=253679

12-05-2010, 16:16	#20
LEE69 176 g/s :D Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: C\UK\Devon\Torquay Posts: 9,326	http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=241817 __________________ I bought one of those anti-bullying wristbands when they first came out. I say 'bought', I actually stole it off a short, fat ginger kid.

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