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Old 06-02-2010, 09:16   #1
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Post 350bhp Focus RS Clubsport run out model due - VAG take note!

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The RS Clubsport (opposite) will arrive before the end of the year. Limited to 500 models and priced at around £35,000, it will get a 350bhp, 2.5-litre five-cylinder turbo. There will also be lightweight racing seats, lowered and stiffened suspension and sticky tyres, plus a dramatic paintjob. With that extra punch but fewer kilos to carry around, it should sprint from 0-60mph in five seconds. As with Renault’s previous Mégane R26.R, it will be a fitting send-off for one of the best RS models in history.

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Old 06-02-2010, 09:19   #2
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Had a quick flick thru the article,all I can say is godamn...
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Old 06-02-2010, 09:22   #3
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£35,000 for a Focus!!!!!!!!!! Cupra's can do 360bhp with a few mods so no biggie really.
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Old 06-02-2010, 09:25   #4
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Had a quick flick thru the article,all I can say is godamn...
I'm sure VAG have similar plans up their sleeves for a send out Cupra R / Golf R / S3 with a new badge/sticker on it or something similarly spineless!
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Old 06-02-2010, 09:29   #5
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£35,000 for a Focus!!!!!!!!!! Cupra's can do 360bhp with a few mods so no biggie really.
Owning a nigh on 350bhp S3, I'd be more than grateful for a manufacturer warrantied car with the same sort of power rather than pi$$ing in the wind like I have to at times when I have issues or gremlins. That said, £35k for a Focus is an inordinate amount of cash.
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Old 06-02-2010, 09:36   #6
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Indeed, SEAT have done a cheap copout with the new Cupra R so forget anything special coming from them.

The next Focus will have a hybrid ecoboost engine with an electric motor ....... oh dear!
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Old 06-02-2010, 11:57   #7
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Owning a nigh on 350bhp S3, I'd be more than grateful for a manufacturer warrantied car with the same sort of power rather than pi$$ing in the wind like I have to at times when I have issues or gremlins. That said, £35k for a Focus is an inordinate amount of cash.
fair point, but who would honestly pay that for a ford focus cause i wouldn't. as said the cupra can be taken to that power a lot cheaper, ok it won't be covered by warranty but anyone who has a warranty on this side and mods means the invalidate it straight away
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Limited to 500 models and priced at around £35,000
and still sell most likely and look out in a few years for them keeping excessively high residual value too
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Owning a nigh on 350bhp S3, I'd be more than grateful for a manufacturer warrantied car with the same sort of power rather than pi$$ing in the wind like I have to at times when I have issues or gremlins. That said, £35k for a Focus is an inordinate amount of cash.
The fact that mountune will soon release a warrantied 370bhp package makes it a very nice proposition as VAG dealers will try and wriggle out of anything if its been modded.

If the clubsport features a revised engine ie bigger turbo that car will be a beast.

The standard RS already has lightweight recaros though
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and still sell most likely and look out in a few years for them keeping excessively high residual value too
Exactly, charge what they want for it, they will still sell them all.
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Old 06-02-2010, 13:39   #11
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and still sell most likely and look out in a few years for them keeping excessively high residual value too
Couldnt agree more, just look at the previous shape RS`s they still hold high residual value. I followed a green Focus RS home from work on Thursday night still not sure on the green colour, but still a mean looking motor!!!
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Owning a nigh on 350bhp S3, I'd be more than grateful for a manufacturer warrantied car with the same sort of power rather than pi$$ing in the wind like I have to at times when I have issues or gremlins. That said, £35k for a Focus is an inordinate amount of cash.
The fact that mountune will soon release a warrantied 370bhp package makes it a very nice proposition as VAG dealers will try and wriggle out of anything if its been modded.

If the clubsport features a revised engine ie bigger turbo that car will be a beast.

The standard RS already has lightweight recaros though
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RS owners are quite passionate about these, i'm sure they will hold their value well.
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everyone missing a big point? its fwd! could have 500bhp, it will still be an absolute nightmare on the roads, let alone when its wet.

I heard audi were releasing an RS3 which has the TTRS 2.5T in it producing something like 330bhp standard....
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Old 10-02-2010, 18:32   #15
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A load of folk on here are running 360bhp through the fronts in the Leon's.

I just admire Ford (irrespective of price) for having the cojones to do the honorable thing and provide a properly tooled up car with manufacturer warranty and the go to match the show.

Lately I've been tremendously underwhelmed by VAG's efforts..
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I just admire Ford (irrespective of price) for having the cojones to do the honorable thing and provide a properly tooled up car with manufacturer warranty and the go to match the show.

Lately I've been tremendously underwhelmed by VAG's efforts..
Echoing my sentiments exactly mate, when Seat announced the new mk5 Ibiza and then revealed no power hike or fancy kit at all in the top end versions I was hugely disappointed, same story with the mk2 Leon Cupra and Cupra R, they are so wrapped up in making eco cars that they seem to put no effort in to making their top end motors any more. They are getting left so far behind the game now by the likes of Ford, Renault with the hot Clio's, the Megane R26 and R26.R and Vauxhall with it's VXR range that it's not really an option anymore for somebody looking for a spicy hot hatch.
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The next Focus will have a hybrid ecoboost engine with an electric motor ....... oh dear!
I hear it's this electric motor that gives it a rediculous extra amount of bhp to get it up to it's 'standard' value. Something along the lines of between 50-100bhp? Can anyone clarify this?
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I hear it's this electric motor that gives it a rediculous extra amount of bhp to get it up to it's 'standard' value. Something along the lines of between 50-100bhp? Can anyone clarify this?
It will have a 200bhp 2.0 ecoboost engine driving the front wheels with the next gen revo knuckle dynamic active suspension. It will be boosted by a 100bhp electric motor driving the rear wheels, giving 300 awd car capable of 40mpg combined.

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Might be AWD and have 300bhp, but the weight of the electric motor etc. will make it heavy as hell!
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Might be AWD and have 300bhp, but the weight of the electric motor etc. will make it heavy as hell!
It will be lighter than the current focus, weight cutting is a big deal for ford. Hence why the new fiesta was significantly lighter than the one it replaced.

Plus the 5 pot volvo engine is quite heavy. The 2.0 ecoboost will be lighter.
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