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Old 14-02-2010, 19:50   #1
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My first nervous moment in my Cupra.

What happened was, I went round a bend at 30 mph, which I have done loads of times in my last car (Astra 200+). For some reason though my car decided to have major under steer. At this point I thought crap I'm going to hit the kerb. Just before I did the front end bit and then put me into an oversteer which I collected and drove on my way.
I dont think the Cupra should handle worse than my Astra but the only thing I can put it down to was the tyres (Bridgestone Potenzas which came with the car) and may be a combination of the 3 degree temperature. On my Astra I had Dumlop Sport SP01 and then Vredestein ultrac sessanta which were fine even in the cold weather.
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Old 14-02-2010, 20:11   #2
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Old 14-02-2010, 20:13   #3
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Could it be oil on the road or maybe the road was a bit greasy.
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Old 14-02-2010, 20:19   #4
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Could it be oil on the road or maybe the road was a bit greasy.
Alex
This was my first thought but when I went back I the road was dry. There is a bump in the middle of the bend that may have un-settled the car though even though it never has before.
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Old 14-02-2010, 20:19   #5
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Old 14-02-2010, 20:28   #6
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I drive an Altea as a family car and find it handles very well (more inspiring than my LCR) i assume it shares the same platform as the Cupra (ish) so i think you just need to familiarise yourself with its abilities. I'm sure it can show the old astra who's boss.
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Old 14-02-2010, 20:48   #7
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Sounds most likely to be a patch of frost/ice as it sounds as if you lost traction on the bend. The Leon does come with ESP and XDS to help reduce this it should of lit up to help. Depending on the road many roads are not being gritted due to a shortage of grit and we have had quite a few accidents on un gritted country roads recently. I had similar happend just the once on a bend just off of a roundabout on to a 70mph road in my 1 Series and the car just understeeed and that was in a RWD car also on Bridgestone but REO 50 runcraps. Just took foor off gas and waited for the car to find grip before correcting. Always a scary moment or two!!

At least you and the car are ok!!!
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Old 14-02-2010, 22:30   #8
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I reckon you were going quicker than thirty but didnt realise it. Happens easily in the cupra
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Old 14-02-2010, 23:00   #9
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Old 14-02-2010, 23:44   #10
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I've been guilty of this too, but the simple answer is just to drive slower in cold weather, especially if you dont have winter tyres.
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Old 15-02-2010, 00:20   #11
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I've been guilty of this too, but the simple answer is just to drive slower in cold weather, especially if you dont have winter tyres.
when did you upgrade dude? I think I remember seeing your posts in the beeza section when we both had lowly 1.4's
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Old 15-02-2010, 07:54   #12
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You might want to check the tyre pressures, if they are on the hard side this might cause probs in the cold weather.
Better still, get some Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetrics...
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Old 15-02-2010, 08:03   #13
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Better still, get some Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetrics...
Better even still - get some winter tyres - 3 degs is well under the operating temperature of summer tyres
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Old 15-02-2010, 08:34   #14
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i reckon you were going quicker than thirty but didnt realise it. Happens easily in the cupra
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Old 15-02-2010, 08:35   #15
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not to mention that bridgestone potenza are absolutely crap in wet/icy conditions.
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Old 15-02-2010, 10:50   #16
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when did you upgrade dude? I think I remember seeing your posts in the beeza section when we both had lowly 1.4's
ah so thats the reason why your Cupra is faster than most things on the road now Pov lol lol
just be nice on sunday
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Old 15-02-2010, 10:54   #17
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It really doesnt matter what the speed , if you hit an icy patch the car will get caught out.

Happened to me in my younger days , i had an mk2 XR2 which held the road like sh*t to a blanket , one day i went round a roundabout which was partly covered by a fly over , it had been frosty over night but sunny during the day , i took the roundablout at a comfortable speed but the sun had not quite moved and shone on all the road and i hit a frosty patch and ended up in a scary moment with my arms battling to keep her striaght.

You need to be prepared for all eventuallities , because the Cupra is heavier it does not feedback as well as to whats happening.
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Old 15-02-2010, 13:38   #18
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Could have been a patch of black ice!?

Anyway, you are driving a CUPRA now, and not a Vauxhall Astra, so you should be more than pleased!
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When the temperatures are low, Bridgestone RE050A are particularly poor. I found the Bridgestones need warmer conditions to perform as well as other premium brand tyres, They have quite a hard rubber compound. I was so appalled by their performance I changed my RE050A's with 4mm tread left on them. I've used Dunlops and Goodyears since. I can say they are far better when temperatures are low and wet grip is on another level.

As you can tell I rate the RE050A's very poorly, tbh they are one of the worst tyres I've ever used.
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When the temperatures are low, Bridgestone RE050A are particularly poor. I found the Bridgestones need warmer conditions to perform as well as other premium brand tyres, They have quite a hard rubber compound. I was so appalled by their performance I changed my RE050A's with 4mm tread left on them. I've used Dunlops and Goodyears since. I can say they are far better when temperatures are low and wet grip is on another level.

As you can tell I rate the RE050A's very poorly, tbh they are one of the worst tyres I've ever used.
Agree with you there but the Pirelli Euphoria's I had were even worse than the Bridgestones belive it or not!!
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