1.8T cupra T 180bhp.. possibilities - SEAT Cupra.net

Teed · 03-09-2004, 20:16

hi just looking at a 2003 cupra t with 180 bhp. the one that looks like this..

although the Cupra R looks mint (and is probably better) i actually prefer the older style lip.

anyways, what are the tuning possibilities with the 180bhp version as regards to a remap + exhaust + intercooler (sports cat) can i see over 50bhp increase.. id be aiming for 250bhp.

any help appreciated.

btw youve got to admit the older face looks newer !!! hehe much better than a gawping mouth 'R'... the model pictured is mint

. has anyone put an induction kit relocation air-pipe between the middle hole preff in blue or red ??? even better

*225* · 03-09-2004, 20:22

I assume you mean the lower front bumper. The cupra has the bumper above and the R has the big mouth, both are current models. As for power someone more knowledgeable than I will have to help

Teed · 05-09-2004, 17:41

anyone ?? before i buy a scoob instead (yawn)

*mark sheerin* · 05-09-2004, 22:45

easy 30bhp increase via a serial port remap by revo...£500 plus vat

takes output to 210bhp....

a second intercooler conversion more costly but will get you up to 250bhp

so 250bhp for about 1k all in...

you can get these engines up to 300bhp plus but you'll need around £3000 to do this.

**WeeJase** · 05-09-2004, 22:52

how will a second intercooler net 40bhp mr sheerin?normally would sustain any power longer,not increase it???????

Jay20VT · 05-09-2004, 23:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teed

hi just looking at a 2003 cupra t with 180 bhp. the one that looks like this..

although the Cupra R looks mint (and is probably better) i actually prefer the older style lip.

anyways, what are the tuning possibilities with the 180bhp version as regards to a remap + exhaust + intercooler (sports cat) can i see over 50bhp increase.. id be aiming for 250bhp.

any help appreciated.

btw youve got to admit the older face looks newer !!! hehe much better than a gawping mouth 'R'... the model pictured is mint

. has anyone put an induction kit relocation air-pipe between the middle hole preff in blue or red ??? even better

nice car mate, Artic Grey, looks exactly like mine. These conversion for more power are all good and well but i have one question. Does your car have to not have exceeded a certain mileage to have these conversions done.. I agree with you on the spoiler thing

*mark sheerin* · 06-09-2004, 00:51

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Originally Posted by jason

how will a second intercooler net 40bhp mr sheerin?normally would sustain any power longer,not increase it???????

The difference between cold weather and hot weather will easily see a 30bhp difference in output on a revo'd cupra...

yes the intercooler will sustain power longer but it will increase it aswell....

ok...maybe not by 40bhp but certainly by 20.

230bhp creeps into scoob territory..

*Dormouse* · 06-09-2004, 02:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark sheerin

a second intercooler conversion more costly but will get you up to 250bhp

Adding another sidemount won't get you 40 bhp. Full stop. What it will do as elluded to by Jase will allow sustained boost not winding back the timing of the car so you have your peak power for longer. The effect of the extra core cooling the compressed gas might get you 10bhp for the same boost on average over the range.....

Dor.

EDIT - no-ones mentioned Torque....

*Madmile* · 06-09-2004, 07:54

235bhp (max) on a k03's Leon and this is pushing quite hard as well. For over 250bhp (around the 270-280bhp mark) a Gt28r bolt on kit would do it no probs or a low spec jabba kit. After that for over 300bhp u need a big Garrett Gt2817r or a Gt28rs or Jabba's IHI.

With the leon it's not that much diff from the Ibiza the brakes, suspension, and extra cooling are required. And some higher speed rated tyres more than likely.

Teed · 06-09-2004, 11:03

with these bolt on kits with bigger turbos do you get serious turbo lag ?? also a 2nd sidemount intercooler sounds nice.. but im concerned that with all this extra bhp you wont be able to put the power down ?? is this a problem for you guys with big bhp i.e. over 210 in a FWD car.

**Ruddmeister** · 06-09-2004, 11:20

TBH it doesn't sound like you have driven the LC or the LCR, go drive a 210 or 225 and see how it puts the power down.

BTW LCR210's are kicking out 235bhp anyway and 225's close to 250bhp standard so with a chip expect 270+bhp.

THEN get a cupra bumper and flog the cupra R bumper, swap 'em over and for
Chip £500 notes ish and someone will probably swap the bumper, paint and fit only £300 ish all in £800 and 270+bhp and 300+lbs/ft

Oh and the extra cost of the LCR to start with

*GreyKnight* · 06-09-2004, 11:30

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Originally Posted by Teed

btw youve got to admit the older face looks newer !!! hehe much better than a gawping mouth 'R'...

Actually no I don't admit that at all - matter of opinion mate

I personally think the R looks far more aggressive than the Cupra (which is intentional) and that was one of the big deciding factors for me

Not being off with you or anything, but please try not to make bold sweeping statements without the use of "IMHO"...

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Teed · 06-09-2004, 12:41

hi just looking at a 2003 cupra t with 180 bhp. the one that looks like this.. << thats what i said

nup i dont own an LC ? didnt think i implied that i did..

the pic is the one i was testing with 180bhp. i have however been in a MeganeRS with 225 bhp FWD and that was fine (although some torque steer) but that has an electronic LSD and a few other bits to stop this happening while the leon`s dont.
not really concerned with TS on just 210 bhp but mainly for 250-270bhp.

BTW thanxs mark sheerin + Madmile for the advise and info it was exaclty what i was lookin for

p.s i did say the LCR still looked awesome. which it does. i just prefer other style maybe time will change that but a classic look lasts a long time.

**Ruddmeister** · 06-09-2004, 12:44

Torque steer isn't bad on a modded 210/225, very little extra over a std car. So drive a standard LCR and see.

chromeless · 06-09-2004, 13:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teed

[COLOR=Navy] i have however been in a MeganeRS with 225 bhp FWD and that was fine (although some torque steer) but that has an electronic LSD and a few other bits to stop this happening while the leon`s dont.

I've a feeling that the the LCR does have an electronic LSD, either way, I'm not convinced about the benefits. Much rather have a proper mechanical one like the Helical diff on an Integra...

Anyway, do drive an LCR, you'll see that torque steer is actually very well contained.

And the Megane hasn't received favourable reviews either...

*Dormouse* · 06-09-2004, 15:14

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Originally Posted by chromeless

I've a feeling that the the LCR does have an electronic LSD

Erm you sure.....???

Dor.

**m0rk** · 06-09-2004, 15:17

yeah - it's the crap TCS, kills the power if one of the wheels spins much more than the other.

**Ruddmeister** · 06-09-2004, 15:18

No mechanical diff AFAIK

And go for Quaife or Peloquin for well under £1k you have serious traction

**m0rk** · 06-09-2004, 15:19

there is a mechanical diff (you can go round corners can't you)

mechanical diff isn't the same as a limited slip diff. (in the reference you're giving)

*Dormouse* · 06-09-2004, 18:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by m0rk

yeah - it's the crap TCS, kills the power if one of the wheels spins much more than the other.

Oh, that piece of c**p. Thought he was refering to some gucci active diff or something....

Dor.

03-09-2004, 20:16	#1
Teed Full Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 187	1.8T cupra T 180bhp.. possibilities hi just looking at a 2003 cupra t with 180 bhp. the one that looks like this.. although the Cupra R looks mint (and is probably better) i actually prefer the older style lip. anyways, what are the tuning possibilities with the 180bhp version as regards to a remap + exhaust + intercooler (sports cat) can i see over 50bhp increase.. id be aiming for 250bhp. any help appreciated. btw youve got to admit the older face looks newer !!! hehe much better than a gawping mouth 'R'... the model pictured is mint . has anyone put an induction kit relocation air-pipe between the middle hole preff in blue or red ??? even better Last edited by Teed; 03-09-2004 at 20:19.

03-09-2004, 20:22	#2
225 Full Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: uk Posts: 2,035	I assume you mean the lower front bumper. The cupra has the bumper above and the R has the big mouth, both are current models. As for power someone more knowledgeable than I will have to help __________________

05-09-2004, 22:45	#4
mark sheerin DUNLOP academy wanabee Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,589	easy 30bhp increase via a serial port remap by revo...£500 plus vat takes output to 210bhp.... a second intercooler conversion more costly but will get you up to 250bhp so 250bhp for about 1k all in... you can get these engines up to 300bhp plus but you'll need around £3000 to do this. __________________ If you are not alarmed . . you should be www.fastalarms.co.uk

06-09-2004, 11:20	#11
Ruddmeister Everything in Moderation Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Weston-super-Mare Posts: 8,912	TBH it doesn't sound like you have driven the LC or the LCR, go drive a 210 or 225 and see how it puts the power down. BTW LCR210's are kicking out 235bhp anyway and 225's close to 250bhp standard so with a chip expect 270+bhp. THEN get a cupra bumper and flog the cupra R bumper, swap 'em over and for Chip £500 notes ish and someone will probably swap the bumper, paint and fit only £300 ish all in £800 and 270+bhp and 300+lbs/ft Oh and the extra cost of the LCR to start with __________________ Steve™® Moderator Honda Civic 2.2 tdci SEAT Altea XL

06-09-2004, 12:41	#13
Teed Full Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 187	hi just looking at a 2003 cupra t with 180 bhp. the one that looks like this.. << thats what i said nup i dont own an LC ? didnt think i implied that i did.. the pic is the one i was testing with 180bhp. i have however been in a MeganeRS with 225 bhp FWD and that was fine (although some torque steer) but that has an electronic LSD and a few other bits to stop this happening while the leon`s dont. not really concerned with TS on just 210 bhp but mainly for 250-270bhp. BTW thanxs mark sheerin + Madmile for the advise and info it was exaclty what i was lookin for p.s i did say the LCR still looked awesome. which it does. i just prefer other style maybe time will change that but a classic look lasts a long time. Last edited by Teed; 06-09-2004 at 12:48.

05-09-2004, 17:41	#3
Teed Full Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 187	anyone ?? before i buy a scoob instead (yawn)

05-09-2004, 22:52	#5
WeeJase pert Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 9,156	how will a second intercooler net 40bhp mr sheerin?normally would sustain any power longer,not increase it???????

06-09-2004, 07:54	#9
Madmile Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: ?????????? Posts: 2,711	235bhp (max) on a k03's Leon and this is pushing quite hard as well. For over 250bhp (around the 270-280bhp mark) a Gt28r bolt on kit would do it no probs or a low spec jabba kit. After that for over 300bhp u need a big Garrett Gt2817r or a Gt28rs or Jabba's IHI. With the leon it's not that much diff from the Ibiza the brakes, suspension, and extra cooling are required. And some higher speed rated tyres more than likely.

06-09-2004, 11:03	#10
Teed Full Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 187	with these bolt on kits with bigger turbos do you get serious turbo lag ?? also a 2nd sidemount intercooler sounds nice.. but im concerned that with all this extra bhp you wont be able to put the power down ?? is this a problem for you guys with big bhp i.e. over 210 in a FWD car.

06-09-2004, 12:44	#14
Ruddmeister Everything in Moderation Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Weston-super-Mare Posts: 8,912	Torque steer isn't bad on a modded 210/225, very little extra over a std car. So drive a standard LCR and see. __________________ Steve™® Moderator Honda Civic 2.2 tdci SEAT Altea XL

06-09-2004, 15:17	#17
m0rk sarcasm comes free Join Date: May 2001 Location: Horndean, Hants Posts: 29,421	yeah - it's the crap TCS, kills the power if one of the wheels spins much more than the other. __________________ m0rksport fleet Skoda Octavia vRS Leon Copa

06-09-2004, 15:18	#18
Ruddmeister Everything in Moderation Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Weston-super-Mare Posts: 8,912	No mechanical diff AFAIK And go for Quaife or Peloquin for well under £1k you have serious traction __________________ Steve™® Moderator Honda Civic 2.2 tdci SEAT Altea XL

06-09-2004, 15:19	#19
m0rk sarcasm comes free Join Date: May 2001 Location: Horndean, Hants Posts: 29,421	there is a mechanical diff (you can go round corners can't you) mechanical diff isn't the same as a limited slip diff. (in the reference you're giving) __________________ m0rksport fleet Skoda Octavia vRS Leon Copa

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