1.4 Differences...?

[greenmachine]

Just wondering, what are the power differences between these 1.4 Ibizas

Ibiza 1.4 SXE (I know it has 100bhp but whats 0-60, 1/4 mile/etc etc)

Ibiza 1.4 CLX

Ibiza 1.4 CLX-S (my model, havnt a clue what the differences are but as far as im aware, it has the same interior as the GTi ibiza with front door speakers, black trim, rear headrests, 2-fold rear seats, etc unlike the CLX)


Is the 1.4 SXE superior to the above? as that has 100bhp, alarm/immob, popout rear windows, electric mirrors as standard and someone mentioned it has the GTI chassis?..


any info on this would be great, im thinking of starting a new project and I want to get the superior 1.4 ibiza of the lot

 

[cordobabrendy]

none of the mark 2 ibizas were 100 brake, the they never got the 1.4 16v, 8v is only 60 brake.

 

[andyj]

There's also the 1.4 S Like i used to have

Cupra Sport style interior, with fabric sports seats not leather and a rear spoiler from the 2.0 8v gti

As Brendy said, they never released the Mk2 Ibiza in 1.4 16v guise

There is the 1.4 16v Arosa however, little pocket rocket that is Know some-one who's got theirs running at 115Bhp

 

[greenmachine]

There's also the 1.4 S Like i used to have

Cupra Sport style interior, with fabric sports seats not leather and a rear spoiler from the 2.0 8v gti

As Brendy said, they never released the Mk2 Ibiza in 1.4 16v guise

There is the 1.4 16v Arosa however, little pocket rocket that is Know some-one who's got theirs running at 115Bhp

I thought the 1.4 SXE had a 100bhp model they produced a limited production of them in kiwi green? hrmm!!?

 

[cordobabrendy]

nope, ive never seen an original kiwi 1.4, they did canary yellow for a while but not kiwi.

 

[Cupra Kid]

I thought the 1.4 SXE had a 100bhp model they produced a limited production of them in kiwi green? hrmm!!?

the 100bhp was the 1.6 8v mate commonly found in the early SXE's the 1.4s took over later on in life though

 

[cordobabrendy]

some 1.6's were only 75 brake also.

 

[greenmachine]

some 1.6's were only 75 brake also.

I know of 2 people round here who have original Kiwi green 1.4 SXE's which there was a limited line of them made. Mine isn't however, just a sprayed jobbie. But then again, im i'm Ireland so it might be a different story over here.

 

[cordobabrendy]

im in northern ireland matey and ive never seen any kiwi ibizas other than non originals, perhaps there were, but ive always though thean the kiwi colour was kept for the high end motors, same as honda and white, ford with the darker met blue etc. generalising here but you know what i mean.

 

[surcalation]

1.4 1/4 mile is around the 19 second region. I know this because I have done it 5 times, lost my tab(not the ear variety) for the 6th.

Thats in a CLS

 

[m0rk]

so slow for 1.4

 

[surcalation]

so slow for 1.4

Wasnt urs stripped out tho mork? and SP technology tuned?

 

[greenmachine]

Wasnt urs stripped out tho mork? and SP technology tuned?

is 19 sec with the 18s on? Dude my car (at the mo with the 1.4) does 0-60 in 18seconds with 18s Lol!

When the VR6 is in and tuned I hope to run in the high 11s / low 12s

Thatd be with nitrous to and I'd slap 14"s on with low pro slicks!

 

[cordobabrendy]

11s and 12's wont happen, you will need 350-400 bhp to crack 12.5 to 13s.

 

[m0rk]

Wasnt urs stripped out tho mork? and SP technology tuned?

No - std was pushing long 16's with a boot ful of crap

its the pimp rims that will make the ibiza emulate a snail

 

[greenmachine]

11s and 12's wont happen, you will need 350-400 bhp to crack 12.5 to 13s.

I'm hopin for 310bhp... this is estimates but here I go:

The 2.8 VR6 I be getting has dyno @ 180bhp (they are 174 as standard)

Dastek piggyback setup UNIchip - 20bhp / 200bhp

100 direct port nitrous - 100bhp / 300bhp

Cusotm TDP exhaust system - 5 / 305bhp

Custom ram air induction kit - 3bhp / 308bhp

De-suitcase the exhaust - 2bhp / 310bhp

Oil cooler, oil catch tank and filter, uprated plugs/leads - 3bhp 313bhp

Thats that... If that engine was then turbod with a big turbo, add 60 to that from 313...... 373bhp...

Then theres huge FMICs, blow off valves, 4 branch manifolds, blah blah to add the figures up

With that... sound system out, spare wheel, rear seats, passenger seat out, i think she woud run in the 12s alright..

Now thats in an ideal world... turbo'ing is an option for the future though when I run out of ideas tuning the VR6... read somewhere on a european tuning site theres VR6 golf's running 500bhp with extensive work/money thrown at them so it is do-able..


Give real big power motors a run for there money.

NB: im not the most mechanicly minded, but the above makes sence to me.. if im wrong in any statesments im happy enough bein corrected

 

[cordobabrendy]

100 brake nitrous.... thats a stop gap to a turbo, you can use them all day every day due to cost/size of containers etc/
reliability is the main issue here, your buying a second hand engine, no matter how much history you get with it, its an unknown to how much of it will be reliable pushing another 100 brake through it, the vr6 engine isnt the freshest daisy in the garden and to push them that hard will require a lot of attention and money. parts are getting harder to get hold off, insurance co's even quinns wont insure it when you mention nitrous either.

dastek will be at least 500 plus rr time to set it up...not cheap
new intake manifold is 1500 if you go for the best improvement vsr variable intake item
exhaust system will be 500 ish (powerflow, not even a decent one)
nitrous kit say, £500
induction kit £100 odds which adds nothing just noise.
an uprated radiator might be needed depending on how hot it gets.
4 branch wont fit on a v6 so a custom or performance manifold is going to cost hundreds too.
clutch, a standard one will melt in no time. add another couple of hundred
gearbox, im not sure what they can handle to be honest but im sure they arnt designed for this useage.
brakes, standard ones arnt great to begin with...
i could go on, mounts, engine rebuild, any new parts found to be needed during the rebuild..
im not poo hooing it mate, but realistically the money youre going to be spending, im going to estimate around £4k, ive not even added the costs of the engine to the factor.

itd be just as cheap to buy a new/nearly new 210 or 225 engine and tranny that in, at least you dont have to worry about the dastek side of things and the internals of the 20vt is rock solid to at least 300 brake which is almost achieveable with a remap. insurance will be a straight forward transplant upgrade rather than adding the temp fix that is nitrous.

what ever you decide fella, we want to see pics as its going to be one of a few cars thats been done and will be interesting to see how you get on, not many people document their conversions.

 

[greenmachine]

100 brake nitrous.... thats a stop gap to a turbo, you can use them all day every day due to cost/size of containers etc/
reliability is the main issue here, your buying a second hand engine, no matter how much history you get with it, its an unknown to how much of it will be reliable pushing another 100 brake through it, the vr6 engine isnt the freshest daisy in the garden and to push them that hard will require a lot of attention and money. parts are getting harder to get hold off, insurance co's even quinns wont insure it when you mention nitrous either.

dastek will be at least 500 plus rr time to set it up...not cheap
new intake manifold is 1500 if you go for the best improvement vsr variable intake item
exhaust system will be 500 ish (powerflow, not even a decent one)
nitrous kit say, £500
induction kit £100 odds which adds nothing just noise.
an uprated radiator might be needed depending on how hot it gets.
4 branch wont fit on a v6 so a custom or performance manifold is going to cost hundreds too.
clutch, a standard one will melt in no time. add another couple of hundred
gearbox, im not sure what they can handle to be honest but im sure they arnt designed for this useage.
brakes, standard ones arnt great to begin with...
i could go on, mounts, engine rebuild, any new parts found to be needed during the rebuild..
im not poo hooing it mate, but realistically the money youre going to be spending, im going to estimate around £4k, ive not even added the costs of the engine to the factor.

itd be just as cheap to buy a new/nearly new 210 or 225 engine and tranny that in, at least you dont have to worry about the dastek side of things and the internals of the 20vt is rock solid to at least 300 brake which is almost achieveable with a remap. insurance will be a straight forward transplant upgrade rather than adding the temp fix that is nitrous.

what ever you decide fella, we want to see pics as its going to be one of a few cars thats been done and will be interesting to see how you get on, not many people document their conversions.

Yeah, theres a lot of factors there that will be taken into consideration...

Only thing is, the 1.8 20vT is a new engine, and very expensive/rare to buy.. Not sure if mounts are the same for that, The VR6 just seemd an easier one out of the lot to go for...

 

[cordobabrendy]

you can buy a 20vt engine and ancilliaries for less than 2k now.
it depends what you'd call easier, i know you said your no mechanic, neither am i, i can do most of the stuff for my car, but my nova was sent to a competant mechanic as i didnt fancy the mounts jiggery!
anyway, a 20vt transplant to someone who's one one before will be easier than someone whos never done a vr6 eh?

 

[surcalation]

20VT is the future