LED headlights in snow

C_ED_99

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Yes it would be interesting to find out if its OK for the Leon Headlights maybe worth a call to them after Holidays

They will probably mention they can't comment on specific cases, as they don't know the plastics involved. I have used it on some plastics as a one off, but you would need to test it first as I don't want you wrecking your expensive LEDs, or causing fogging! Plus repeated use will probably increase the risk, but for the once or twice a year it snows how often will you really need to apply? That said the Siloxane in RainX probably won't adhere as well to plastics.

You may get some benefit out of something designed for plastics like the swimming demister/defogger products, don't know.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb...nti+fog+spray&rh=i:aps,k:anti+fog+spray&ajr=3
 
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simonali

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SEAT does extensive winter testing of their cars in Arjeplog in the north of Sweden.

They do?! So far, since it has gotten colder, I've had the headlight levelling fail to initialise three times and both doors stick shut, so I'd say their winter testing program is a crock of shyte.
 

kmanmx

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They do?! So far, since it has gotten colder, I've had the headlight levelling fail to initialise three times and both doors stick shut, so I'd say their winter testing program is a crock of shyte.

I can't comment on the headlights. But I know for a fact the doors on Mercedes, Land Rover and Mini also get frozen stuck in the winter sometimes, as does my Seat Ibiza of course.

As i've witnessed it first hand on all the above brands, i'm assuming it just affects all cars. Air has moisture in it, which gets into the doors. It falls way below freezing, and ice sticks the doors shut. I'm not too sure how you would go about getting around that.
 
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simonali

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I just use lukewarm water poured on the door to break the seal. I assumed it was the foam door seals absorbing water, which then freezes and sticks the doors shut? To be honest, it has happened on most of my other cars, too, so I can forgive that, but I can't forgive SEAT for the headlights freezing up. I start to drive home from work with them pointing at the floor and then, when the car is warmed up, I stop in a lay by, turn off the ignition, restart the engine and hope they re-level now they're warmer, which they do.
 

JBB

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It's a shame that they can't incorporate some sort of heating element into the LED headlights, to stop them fogging up or freezing. We have the rear screen demister and some cars have heated windscreens, so why not heated LED headlights. Yes it's fine for those that have the headlight washers but I'm like many others have the tech pack but no headlight washers.
 

Bhoopoo

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With either the winter pack option or the Bi-Xenon headlights you get the headlight washer system. This should clear all the dirt and debris, works well on my car.
Lean 2.0TDI, Emocion Red, winter pack, Tech Pack, upgraded alloys etc, etc 10th Seat I have owned, never had any problems with any of my previous cars. First car was a Cordoba 2.0GTI, great car, although didn't have the technology that the cuurent cars have.
 

yellowcone87

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They do?! So far, since it has gotten colder, I've had the headlight levelling fail to initialise three times and both doors stick shut, so I'd say their winter testing program is a crock of shyte.

Snap!

Each and every time the car is cold I have to switch off the ignition and start again to get my LEDs to work right. My boot lid also seems to hold water which then freezes and has cracked the rear light cluster.

I'm not impressed with the Leon's winter performance so far I must say. Its a shame, in the summer I couldn't have been happier!
 
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hstjern

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I can't comment on the headlights. But I know for a fact the doors on Mercedes, Land Rover and Mini also get frozen stuck in the winter sometimes, as does my Seat Ibiza of course.

As i've witnessed it first hand on all the above brands, i'm assuming it just affects all cars. Air has moisture in it, which gets into the doors. It falls way below freezing, and ice sticks the doors shut. I'm not too sure how you would go about getting around that.

There is a brilliant solution to doors frozen stuck, use silicon spray.
I have used it on all my cars in both UK and Sweden and never had a problem with doors frozen stuck.
These days U can even get it with a spongy top so its dead easy to apply.
Crc is one brand that offers it for cars.
 

kazand

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They do?! So far, since it has gotten colder, I've had the headlight levelling fail to initialise three times and both doors stick shut, so I'd say their winter testing program is a crock of shyte.
Going on the issues with water (mouldy bonnet lining etc) ingress the last Leon had it would appear that 'extensive winter testing' doesn't involve anything wet....... :D
 

kazand

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My hatchback won't lift in the cold either, I have to lift it up by hand...
What, you mean the butler doesn't do it? Sack him!
If Seat do 'extensive winter testing' in the frozen North, could that be why these LED lights don't seem that bright ( compared to xenons) Land of the midnight sun and all that ?
 

simonali

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The struts won't lift the tailgate when it's freezing. Other gripes, no strut on the bonnet and the washer bottle is a rather small, too. VW fit a larger one to cars with headlight washers, but SEAT? Naaah!
 

neil_f225

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Snap!

Each and every time the car is cold I have to switch off the ignition and start again to get my LEDs to work right. My boot lid also seems to hold water which then freezes and has cracked the rear light cluster.

I'm not impressed with the Leon's winter performance so far I must say. Its a shame, in the summer I couldn't have been happier!

I've found this happens to only one headlight on mine. Have tried switching the car off then on again but it still won't level correctly.Has anybody gone back to the dealers to see what they say? The winter hasn't even been that cold yet this year. Dread to think what happens when it becomes really cold.
 

yellowcone87

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I've found this happens to only one headlight on mine. Have tried switching the car off then on again but it still won't level correctly.Has anybody gone back to the dealers to see what they say? The winter hasn't even been that cold yet this year. Dread to think what happens when it becomes really cold.

Sounds the same as mine mate. My drivers side headlight refuses to move when it is cold. The other side seems perfect so far. Haven't taken it to the dealers yet, just haven't had time. Did ring them though, they weren't really interested. Got the whole ' if the problem persists, pop it down to us' routine.
 

neil_f225

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Sounds the same as mine mate. My drivers side headlight refuses to move when it is cold. The other side seems perfect so far. Haven't taken it to the dealers yet, just haven't had time. Did ring them though, they weren't really interested. Got the whole ' if the problem persists, pop it down to us' routine.

Can imagine they'll just say there is no fix. Seems a rather fundamental flaw that should have been picked up during the testing stage before being released to the public. Thing is the first part of my journey every day is on unlit country roads and motorway so not very helpful when the headlight is pointing to the ground!
 

KenTT

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Can imagine they'll just say there is no fix. Seems a rather fundamental flaw that should have been picked up during the testing stage before being released to the public. Thing is the first part of my journey every day is on unlit country roads and motorway so not very helpful when the headlight is pointing to the ground!

Surely this is a safety issue, you would think that Seat would have this under a recall if enough numbers are reported.
 

yellowcone87

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Surely this is a safety issue, you would think that Seat would have this under a recall if enough numbers are reported.

I would hope so. It's hard to imagine that this is not a fundamental design issue, given the number of people on here alone who are reporting the same issue. Personally I have it any time the outside temp is cold enough to show the snowflake on the dash display. The headlight will not level properly until I restart after letting the engine compartment warm up. Leaving me with only one functioning headlight in the middle of the unlit Warwickshire countryside.. It seems to me that the car would benefit from having had a heating element built into the headlight unit, as suggested above. I know the tech pach makes the LEDS affordable in the UK but let's not forget that they are usually a very expensive option. For the money they ask for them, I do expect them to be safe! Which at the moment, at least in my experience, they are certainly not.
 
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