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LED headlights in snow
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Well, today I toohave to admit, that when LEDs are dirty and your car does not come with winter package(no headlight washers) you can't see **** in the dark. And in these circumbstances, Leon does suck. It's my first experience driving with a dirty lights because of the muddy wet roads at night. Plus the freaking windscreen washer don't spray right therefore the wipers are not wiping like they should.
I'm going for the spray jets as soon as possible but I don't know about the headlights. Am I supposed to stop every 10km and clean them?![[:@]](/forums/styles/seatcupra/oldforumsmileys/furious.gif "Furious [:@]")
I'm going for the spray jets as soon as possible but I don't know about the headlights. Am I supposed to stop every 10km and clean them?
No fog lights on Cupra
Seriously?
No way I'd want a car without fog lights, ever. They're just invaluable when driving very dark country roads in total darkness. Since I just love going to all kinds of very remote and very dark places (I've been on some of the most remote roads in the UK in some of the most atrocious conditions), I absolutely wouldn't have wanted a car without them!Still, the complaint of this thread is weird to me. I drove through pretty serious mud today (almost lost traction, nearly got stuck!) and still, through all of the crazy weather I've been through, and all of the less than perfect roads I've driven on, I have *never* felt any need to clean my headlights specifically. Never needed to pay any attention to them. So either you guys drive on some really weird roads or I'm just incredibly lucky.
The main complaint in this thread relates to a fault on some LED equipped cars, not to the fact they get dirty. All headlights get dirty. It isnt Seats fault if owners choose not to specify headlamp washers. However not all headlights let snow settle on the lenses while driving like LED ones can do in the right circumstances due to the lack of heat produced by coventional bulbs.
It became apparent during the discussions that there are several owners complaining also about a serious fault with the headlight levelling mechanism, so the thread has continued to that effect.... All of this is covered in the thread...
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Yes, I guess the problem with dirty lights don't really belong her. Lights did get dirty from the dirty water melted from snow,so it still kinda fit into this thread
. What I was trying to say is,that Seat stupidly added the headlight washers into the winter package, but they should come with LED package, like they do with xenon in every car. I don't need heated washers, heated seats and all the other winter stuff, I need my lights clean and that's not a a winter thing. Ofcourse it's my fault I didn't order them but I kinda thought they come with the LED package.
Yes, I guess the problem with dirty lights don't really belong her. Lights did get dirty from the dirty water melted from snow,so it still kinda fit into this thread
What I was trying to say is,that Seat stupidly added the headlight washers into the winter package, but they should come with LED package, like they do with xenon in every car. I don't need heated washers, heated seats and all the other winter stuff, I need my lights clean and that's not a a winter thing. Ofcourse it's my fault I didn't order them but I kinda thought they come with the LED package.
They used to until my 2014. Then they disappeared off the specifications list. My dealer had to double check that they really were not included as the brochure said they were. Same thing happened at BMW, cruise control in brochure, final check before signing, where's my cruise control?, not free anymore please give us £250. Salesman couldn't believe it.
They also did it with the storage pack. Weirdly, I have only only one storage box, under the drivers seat. They told me once the car had arrived that they wanted more money for the 'storage pack'. Annoying, since much like Gartner I would have ordered it if id been told beforehand. I cant think of any other product you can buy brand new and not receive what is advertised, and the law stands on their side. Weird huh?
Anyone read this week's Autocar? Someone wrote to the guy running a Leon as a long termer and commented that he didn't think the headlights were very good and the journo (Matt Birt) agreed. Correspondent's name was David Preece, anyone on here?
Well I guess it depends what your making a comparison to...
I find them slightly better than the xenon headlight on my previous Audi TT, plus no warm up time. They are also better than the MX5 mk3.5 projector headlight units, although these do have a further reaching main beam.
So in the grand scheme of car head lights I would say the Leon LED units are above the average in performance stakes.
The Cupra owner, David Preece said that the LED lights were not as good as the Xenons he had on his previous car, He even claimed that the LEDs were no better than the halogen headlights in his wife's Nissan Juke.
The journalist who is currently having a Cupra agreed that the LED (as well as the satnav) were weak points of the car.
Motoring journalists tend to have tested lots of cars (and headlights), so in the grand scheme of things, they have a larger, better sample to make a benchmark against when giving their opinions.
I think you will find even if you could mount them it would contravene the UK Road traffic Act
Sorry did not realise you were in Sweden
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Maybe a led bar the size of my numberplate are nicer to look at. Here in sweden country side nobody cares what kind of Light you mount. But idont like the idea of 3x bosch 225 xenon though. Even if Light is good.
Rigid industries have som nice led bars and a quickmount will be nice, so I can remove it at spring.
Comparing them to the bi-xenons in previous LCR and a Mk2 C5 the LED's on dipped beam are not as good , probably on a par with Osram nightbreakers (or similar) in standard headlamps. Can't comment on main beam, not had chance to use them much yet.
The main beam is even more disappointing to me. They barely add to the light already supplied by the dipped ones. My full take is that the colour and spread of the dipped beam is fine providing the weather is good. What I do find is the light output is rather weak and that the headlights of other cars overpower them, especially in the wet. Halogen lamps seem to reflect off the wet road surface heavily and this just washes over the LED beams making me feel I can only see where the other car is going instead of where I'm going. I barely use the high beams now as they make so little difference to the light output that it's not worth flicking the stalk. Someone mentioned somewhere that an Olight torch was brighter than their headlights, but excused it because it cost £200. Well one Leon headlight costs around £800, so it should be better, shouldn't it?!
I'm not doubting what you are saying but I'm really surprised to read this. I find the main beam to be excellent, and a big difference vs dipped beam (which is just okay). I wonder if there is there is some variation in light intensity between vehicles.
I drive every morning at 5:45am on a totally unlit 60mph road, and the highbeam is way better than the dipped, and when I dip to pass oncoming vehicles, I can still see where I'm going no bother. So must be different units or something even though my car was built around the same time as Simonali
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Sounds like a lot of these cars with the LED headlights need them setting up at an MOT station.
Lights out of alignment is still one of the most common fails for first MOT's on many cars.
Lights out of alignment is still one of the most common fails for first MOT's on many cars.
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