Mk3 FR tracking

James cupra 290 black

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I have a 2016 Leon 1.4tsi FR, just had 4 tyres and tracking done. Now the car feels strange. What settings should be used. Any help would be appreciated. I had this problem on my old cupra 290. I had the tracking done three times and all three times the garage was using the settings for the estate. I found the correct settings from this site and after being done with the correct settings is drive amazingly. Sadly I sold that for a cupra Formentor which was the worst decision I have ever made lol.
 

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I have a 2016 Leon 1.4tsi FR, just had 4 tyres and tracking done. Now the car feels strange. What settings should be used. Any help would be appreciated. I had this problem on my old cupra 290. I had the tracking done three times and all three times the garage was using the settings for the estate. I found the correct settings from this site and after being done with the correct settings is drive amazingly. Sadly I sold that for a cupra Formentor which was the worst decision I have ever made lol.
Did you have full alignment?
It usually says on your printout the vehicle details which they used?
It has the tracking settings in the workshop manuals saved on here.
 

James cupra 290 black

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Did you have full alignment?
It usually says on your printout the vehicle details which they used?
It has the tracking settings in the workshop manuals saved on here.
As it’s only the 1.4 it is a solid rear axle and so there is no adjustment in the rear. They used codes G01, G02, G03, G17. I wanted to double check that was correct. I couldn’t find any info when searching these forums.
 

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As it’s only the 1.4 it is a solid rear axle and so there is no adjustment in the rear. They used codes G01, G02, G03, G17. I wanted to double check that was correct. I couldn’t find any info when searching these forums.

So they only put the wheel gauges on the front axle?
The rear axle even thought not adjustable has a thrust angle which the front axle should be measured/adjusted too - meaning you need to use wheel gauges on all wheels.

Workshop manuals here have the spec for the various codes.
 
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James cupra 290 black

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My understanding is they use your rear wheels as a base point to adjust your fronts. If it’s independent rear suspension there is adjustments in the links etc. With a solid rear axle there isn’t any adjustment really. It just bolts to the chassis (see picture). It drove ok before the alignment but I wanted to get it done as I have got new tyres. Now it drives very strange is that just the new tyres or have they set the tracking to the wrong parameters. I was wondering if anyone had their printout if their car once the tracking had been done.
 

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James cupra 290 black

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I had the exact same problem with my cupra 290. I managed to get the correct codes and three different garages were setting the car up with the estate parameters. I think the garage may have set the FR up with the independent rear suspension. The first pic is what my car should be and the second is the multi link rear suspension.
 

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SuperV8

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As it’s only the 1.4 it is a solid rear axle and so there is no adjustment in the rear. They used codes G01, G02, G03, G17. I wanted to double check that was correct. I couldn’t find any info when searching these forums.
Your print out says 'standard suspension'
You have an FR so isn't that 'sport suspension'.
 

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My understanding is they use your rear wheels as a base point to adjust your fronts. If it’s independent rear suspension there is adjustments in the links etc. With a solid rear axle there isn’t any adjustment really. It just bolts to the chassis (see picture). It drove ok before the alignment but I wanted to get it done as I have got new tyres. Now it drives very strange is that just the new tyres or have they set the tracking to the wrong parameters. I was wondering if anyone had their printout if their car once the tracking had been done.
That is my point. They need to put gauges on ALL 4 wheels to measure the rear wheel thrust angle - and then set the front toe to that.
If they ONLY put gauges on your front wheels - there is no way they know the rear axle thrust angle.

Also did they measure the ride height at each corner? If this is out then it can throw the measurement out.
 

James cupra 290 black

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I have no idea if they just put the gauges on all 4 or just the front. Even if they did that isn’t a four wheel alignment ? As far as I am aware you can’t adjust rear thrust angle. There is physical no where to adjust the rear suspension. There might be a slight movement in the bolt holes. Again I don’t know any garage that would measure ride height. It’s on standard suspension so don’t see there being much difference on each corner.
 

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I have no idea if they just put the gauges on all 4 or just the front. Even if they did that isn’t a four wheel alignment ? As far as I am aware you can’t adjust rear thrust angle. There is physical no where to adjust the rear suspension. There might be a slight movement in the bolt holes. Again I don’t know any garage that would measure ride height. It’s on standard suspension so don’t see there being much difference on each corner.
Is the copy of the print out the only piece that you received? as it only says front - so from that I would say they only measured the front axle.

Yes - you need a 4 wheel alignment - but it doesn't mean they actually adjust the rear axle. They measure the rear axle theoretical thrust angle and then adjust the front axle to take into account the rear axle geometry.
 

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I am not sure if it is classed as sports as it’s just an FR not a cupra but you might be right.
The FR has 'Sports' suspension according to the details when I ordered my car when new, it's a bit lower than standard suspension.
I never have my wheel alignment checked unless I notice uneven wear or scrubbing, which has been very rare.
I do find that when I have new tyres, especially if it's 4, that my cars feel 'strange' for a while.
 

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A 'long time ago' when I didn't know much about anything (still don't :ROFLMAO:) I took my car (Audi A4 B6) into get the tracking done at a 'budget' place as my car was wearing the inside edges of the front tyres - and they only measured the front axle - It drove in fine (apart from the uneven wear) and I drove it away and thought WTF! felt awful. Had it tracked at a 4 wheel alignment on something like a hunter and much better - you normally don't pay just for the check - only pay if they have to adjust anything.
 

James cupra 290 black

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Yes that’s the only print out I have. You could be right. I am going to go back to the garage tonight and query it. I have found the settings and believe they have used the wrong ones so we will see what happens. The first pic is what they should be and the second is what they have used which is the face lift Leon on standard running gear with multi link rear suspension. Let’s see what they say lol.
 

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James cupra 290 black

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A 'long time ago' when I didn't know much about anything (still don't :ROFLMAO:) I took my car (Audi A4 B6) into get the tracking done at a 'budget' place as my car was wearing the inside edges of the front tyres - and they only measured the front axle - It drove in fine (apart from the uneven wear) and I drove it away and thought WTF! felt awful. Had it tracked at a 4 wheel alignment on something like a hunter and much better - you normally don't pay just for the check - only pay if they have to adjust anything.
Yes it’s so ******* annoying. I know it doesn’t feel right and I have just payed all that money I want it to be right.
 

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Yes that’s the only print out I have. You could be right. I am going to go back to the garage tonight and query it. I have found the settings and believe they have used the wrong ones so we will see what happens. The first pic is what they should be and the second is what they have used which is the face lift Leon on standard running gear with multi link rear suspension. Let’s see what they say lol.

Regardless, the only thing that is adjustable on your car is the front toe* and that is an identical spec for all models.

*The front camber can be balanced between sides by loosening the front subframe bolts and physically moving it, and the rear thrust angle is adjustable by loosening the rear subframe bolts and physically moving the subframe but both those operations are beyond what a fast fit type place will do.

The only thing changing the machine setting might achieve on your car would be whether or not the front camber and caster show as being in spec or out of spec if the spec for those is different between models.
 

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Do you have a print out showing before and after values, this would show what changes were made and show how your car was in regard to required measurements before they messed with it.
 

James cupra 290 black

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Yes I have printouts. The first one shows the front left in particular is out which I suspected. I have spoken to the garage and they will redo the tracking on Tuesday. They are a decent place. I am positive they haven’t used the correct settings etc. It drove fine before hand other than a slight pull on the front left.
 
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