New Clutch Sooner than i thought

[AshFR]

Just noticed the clutch has started to slip on my pd150 grrrr. Only had the car a day but bought it from my brother and he said he will knock some money off as i havent paid him fully yet.

Im planning on a remap so want a uprated clutch but not stupidly expensive.

Looking at the Sachs SRE clutch kit. Is this one ok? http://www.darksidedevelopments.co....ed-02m-dual-mass-flywheel-and-clutch-kit.html

I spoke to a bloke from that company on the website and that clutch will take a remap to 200bhp no problem. Is this correct? I swear i was looking at one that was £700 that would take a remap.

Also would it be best to go for the DMF or SMF? I only plan on taking it around to 200bhp anyway as it spins the wheels enough as it is lol.

Thanks all.

 

[AshFR]

Anyone help asap please. Need to get a new clutch ordered tonight. Is anyone running the above clutch fine with a remap on pd150? Thanks very much.

 

[towcester vag]

helix clutch based on sach but with organic plate
fitted one to mine after remap and its perfect and they guarantee what it can handle
i fitted it with new dualmass as single are s--t noisy

 

[AshFR]

helix clutch based on sach but with organic plate
fitted one to mine after remap and its perfect and they guarantee what it can handle
i fitted it with new dualmass as single are s--t noisy

How much was that mate? I dont want to spend over £450 for a clutch minus fitting. Thanks.

 

[Dan1720v]

Fitting is 4 hours.

 

[AshFR]

Not bad fitting time then. Could someone please tell me if the clutch i mentioned in the first post is any good for a remapped pd150? Thanks alot

Or do i need this one: http://www.darksidedevelopments.co....el-with-sachs-sre-performance-clutch-kit.html

Or this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SEAT-LEON...arts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3cb61a69cf

 

[AshFR]

Looking about and most people use the Organic Sachs Clutch Kit which is over £1k including VAT. Anyone know where i can get it any cheaper? Or i might aswell go for a soundbend as thats only a little more. Or will the clutch in the first post be just fine?

So the question is do i got for this: http://www.darksidedevelopments.co....ed-02m-dual-mass-flywheel-and-clutch-kit.html

Or This (Organic): http://www.darksidedevelopments.co....el-with-sachs-sre-performance-clutch-kit.html

Or this for an extra £42: http://www.darksidedevelopments.co....ywheel-clutch-kit-for-vw-02m-6-speed-tdi.html

Or £70 extra for the stage 2 daily driver but im sure i wont need this.

Also whats better, sinthered or organic as hey both seem to be the same price? I really need to get one ordered asap as the clutch slip is getting worse. Thanks very much.

 

[towcester vag]

dan1720v has got the fitting time wrong mate!
book time is 4.7 hrs gearbox r&i
0.7 hrs flywheel r&i
times from elsa windows 02m 6 speed gearbox
my clutch was £550 and £235 for flywheel
i did the work myself as im a vw tech
just the parts made me cough as standard clutch was £130
i choose the helix as seat touring cars were fitted with this clutch so they know what they are on about

 

[AshFR]

dan1720v has got the fitting time wrong mate!
book time is 4.7 hrs gearbox r&i
0.7 hrs flywheel r&i
times from elsa windows 02m 6 speed gearbox
my clutch was £550 and £235 for flywheel
i did the work myself as im a vw tech
just the parts made me cough as standard clutch was £130
i choose the helix as seat touring cars were fitted with this clutch so they know what they are on about

Fair enough. Is it a organic? Also is the clutch pedal any heaviver? How long have you had it and with it remapped? Still holding good? Need to get a new one ordered before end of this week. Need it fitted next week Thanks mate.

 

[towcester vag]

yes organic
clutch pedal slightly heavier
fitted when remapped car done about 3000 miles since and it hasnt slipped/juddered made any noises
the clutch is made to take the power etc
i fitted a dual mass flywheel because i cant stand the noise the single mass makes and the way it affects the idle/low rev feel
they do another clutch which is designed for single mass

 

[agilitymad]

towcester VAG --where do you get the idea that SMF's are noisy? I know of golfs, leons, octavias and audis, many of them taxis, which are running about on SMFs, and the feedback from them is that they are quieter and smoother than the original DMF setup.

I know that if the clutch and/or flywheel ever goes on mine,it will certainly be having a SMF conversion.

 

[Leon2012]

Hi Ash,

Southbend clutches are the best of the lot - they have a great pedal feel and are the strongest & best made clutches out there.

They're American and if you do a quick search on tdiclub.com, where most members are American, and have easy access to these clutches (whereas in Europe there's only Darkside Dev. to get them from), you will NEVER find a bad review on these clutches, only good reports, and to me that says a lot. Everyone raves about them and I've never heard of a problem with them.

 

[AshFR]

Fair enough. Ive just found this one on ebay and i spoke to them and they said its rated at 520nm of torque. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/280648616840

They said its the same as a southbend silent clutch. Also has a lifetime warrenty on the flywheel and 4 years/40k miles on the actual clutch. Anyone had one as is it any good? They also said its perfect for a daily driver. Just seems a bit cheap. thanks.

Just bit the bullet and order it. Got it for £600 Getting it fitted next wednesday so will let you know.

 

[AshFR]

Just googled techniclutch and theres lot of bad reviews. Boll*x. Ah well, we will soon see if its any good, if not it wil be going back and refund/small claims court if i have to. I really do hope its a good one

There are also some fairly good reviews on scooby forum soooo....

 

[Leon2012]

Ash, can you not use the distance sellers law, which says you can return the product within 7 days, no questions asked, for a full refund.

Don't accept or fit that fake Southbend, Get A Real One!

 

[AshFR]

Ash, can you not use the distance sellers law, which says you can return the product within 7 days, no questions asked, for a full refund.

Don't accept or fit that fake Southbend, Get A Real One!

Just been told its been sent out. I may cancel and send it back then. FFS. Im thinking about giving it ago tbh. Just so i know if its any good or not. Unless someone has tried and tested one and giving bad results. Grrrr. They have also sold 10 of them so i wouldnt think they can be that bad. A few on scooby forum have had theirs for years with no problems and running alot more power. Yes i know its a different clutch all together but the same company. If theres anything wrong when its fitted, thats it, it would be going back. Also most of the bad reviews are about the item arriving late or damaged and not much on the terms of slipping or anything.

 

[Leon2012]

Ash, don't accept it as I'm sure you'll end up worse off for it. A very quick Google search of Techniclutch revealed serious problems with the products and company:

"Techniclutch warning.

Thought i would post up recent my experience with Techniclutch who sell clutch kits on Ebay. Really dont want anyone else to experience the **** im going through with this company.

I dont come on here very often but i think this needs to be posted up on the 3 skyline bulletin boards for maximum exposure

Moderators if you feel this is out of order please delete it but i am only posting up what has actually happened to me because if i read about anyone else having the same experience as me & it could have been avoided via me posting this up i will kick myself.

I bought the R32GTR fast road techniclutch kit off ebay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MEWN:IT&rd=1 & it arrived in fairly good time i guess. Paid on the sunday & it arrived the next thursday. All was looking good & i was looking forward to having it fitted

I took the car down to Andy at S P Autos on the saturday to get it fitted.

Everything was going well & the gearbox was off in next to no time. That was untill he tried to bolt the clutch to the flywheel & there was no way it was going to fit. The holes on the cover just didn't line up with the pegs on the flywheel.
I was in a bit of a spot at this point as it was a saturday afternoon,my car had no gearbox or clutch & i lived 150 miles away.

I rang the techniclutch number & got through to a guy called John who really didn't seem all that bothered that his clutch didn't fit & that i had no way of getting home & could he help out in some way. I asked him if he would have a word with Andy as he was fitting it & could explain better.
He told Andy to pull the pegs out of the flywheel & just make it fit. When andy questioned the way it would be out of balance he just put the phone down on him!!
I rang back & asked for a refund as it was obvious at this tim we were getting no where & Andy could have a genuine Nissan clutch on the Tuesday.

guess what.............yep he huing up again!!!


Andy said i could take his car home & he would order the nissan clutch on the monday.

When i got home i rang techniclutch again & the guy was seriously out of order. Told me it was tough ****. I was getting no refund & then hung up yet again !!!
I rang back immediately to have a go & the phone was picked up & then put down.

Im £180 out of pocket now so am trying to get a refund via paypal but i guess its going to take a while. I have been told tonight will have to post the clutch back & pay for postage out of my own pocket & probably not get all of my money back either.

All in all not a very nice experience & i would warn others to steer clear of techniclutch. "

 

[Leon2012]

Sorry, but maybe you just lost money trying to save a few quid

 

[AshFR]

Ash, don't accept it as I'm sure you'll end up worse off for it. A very quick Google search of Techniclutch revealed serious problems with the products and company:

Yeah i saw that but thats just the flywheel not fitting on to the car properly, nothing about clutch slipping or anything. Grrrr. Dont know what to do.

 

[Leon2012]

Well I would never fit a brand of clutch I've never heard of, made to low standards in a Chinese factory, and sold by a slick salesman claiming they are the same as Southbends...yeah right...

I've just had a look at the Returns Policy on the eBay link you gave, and you've definately lost out in someway, either by fitting (or attempting to fit if it does indeed go on properly) a poor quality item, or by returning it:

Return policy
Correctly supplied items will be subject to a 20% handling charge. Postage costs are the responsibility of the customer.

Either way you're screwed...