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| Welcome to SEATCupra.net |
Welcome to SEATCupra.net Thank you for registering to the SEATCupra.net Forums - one of the largest online communities on the world wide web that is dedicated to the enjoyment of SEAT motor vehicles. As well as the usual forum discussions, we encourage forum users to get involved in the self help aspect. Using the forum for the sharing of information with which to help themselves and others diagnose problems and gain the best possible advice. We hope you find it a friendly community and a useful resource. IMPORTANT INFO PLEASE READ! |
| Forum Contacts |
| SEATCupra.net's administration and moderation team are all volunteers and give up their free time to serve the community and look after the day to day running of this very busy forum. They are here to help you and keep the forum running smoothly for everyone so please be patient and do your best to help them and us. If you need a question answering regarding the forum please direct it at anyone of the team and someone can deal with it or pass it onto someone more relevant. The best means of contact for the moderators is by using the forums PM system. If you do not know whom the admin/moderator was that edited or deleted your post, you can e-mail administrator@seatcupra.net though this may not get a quick response. All key forum contacts can be found here, with the relevant sections they manage listed: SCN Forum Leaders SEATCupra.net also has a group of volunteer moderators & senior moderators who are available to deal with most 'forum' specific issues and due to their greater numbers are often available to react quicker than the administrator team. Senior moderators and moderators are listed by forum name below, click on their name to access there contact profiles: SENIOR MODERATORS Fl@pper, mrcoyote MODERATORS andyj, Brummy, DPJ, Empi5, F2 Stu, Ruddmeister, sssstew, WeeJase ADMINISTRATORS - Responsible for the overall management and control of SCN If you need to speak to a member of the forums administration team you can contact them by email or via PM and they will reply as soon as they are able: Click either name below for their profile pages. ZBOYD or m0rk |
| 1. Moderation of thread/posts. |
MODERATION. EXAMPLES OF WHAT IS DEEMED IMPROPER AND UNWELCOME ON SCN Why was my post deleted or edited? At worst likely because of one of the more serious reasons already listed above. Less seriously but all the more important is protecting our sponsors investment and their financial support that the forum benefits from. SEATCupra.net is totally free for anyone to join, we will never ask a forum member to financially contribute. This means that sometimes some companies or individuals try to get around supporting the forum, and post unsolicited advertising on the forum. We accept that some members want to make recommendations of products and services from non-advertisers and this is fine as long as it doesn't turn into a sales pitch. Anything deemed to be overtly commercial posted on the forum without prior permission will be removed. Abuse towards moderators We have an underlying rule that you may not like but we insist on: The admins and moderators on SEATCupra.net are to be treated with respect. By respect we do not mean you must fall at our feet, and you can disagree with us and have open discussion, but we do not tolerate abuse from people. Our moderators are a bunch of GOOD hard working people, with the very best of intentions regardless of what you may think, who really put in a lot of hours a day (and in some cases have done so for a very long time) to serve YOU. And by saying SERVE YOU we do not mean they are your servants. Please learn to differentiate between the two. Without their generous support this forum would cease to exist. If, however, an administrator/moderator is in your views out of line, then you are perfectly welcome to complain to a senior member. But you do so in PRIVATE and reasonably. We will handle it through our channels, not yours. And, although some here seem to want to see blood running through the streets, we can tell you this much: this is not the "let's flog show". If you wanna see that one, it must be playing on another forum - not on SEATCupra.net. |
| 2. Reporting of posts/threads to the moderator |
Reporting posts/threads. We can't be everywhere all the time as we have real lives and commitments too, so quite frequently we miss stuff posted on the forum that probably shouldn't be there. Much of the time we have better things to be doing rather than reading through 30 pages of 'willy waving' just to see if anyone has decided to start an argument. We rely on YOU to tell us when something is getting out of hand, the REPORT POST function is there for a very good reason. If you click this icon on the post and then leave a comment that it maybe suspicious or breaking our rules, it sends a message to every admin and moderator so that we can be quickly alerted of any situations that might be brewing and we can then react to knock them on the head.Please DO help us to help YOU. All received reports are in the strictest confidence, they are not shared with anyone but the admin team. Taking the law into your own hands. Sometimes one or more people feel they have the right to attack or preach at other members over their conduct. We'll make it clear, that only the admins and moderators of the forum hand out the punishments, people throwing their oar in to a situation doesn't help us. If you are being agrivated by someone trying to manage it yourself or bottling up your frustration over weeks then exploding at someone on the forum does you no good, and makes you look just as bad in our eyes. Report it to us, and let us deal with it. |
| 3. Conduct warnings and exclusion from forum ban. |
The process of forum disipline. Sadly some forum users can take their behaviour or conduct a little too far and a moderator will be forced to issue a warning or infraction to inform the member of their conduct. If the warning is not heeded then a temporary and/or permanent ban can be made. |
| 4. Flame Baits vs 'Freedom of Speech'. |
| We know that our prior outlined rule statements above, may lead some to think that this should encompass posters who have repeatedly posted what some here consider 'flame bait'. We happen to agree - but only to a certain extent. Dealers, Tuners and other companies. They are there to be adored and scorned, admired and admonished, revered and questioned constantly. But, there is a fine line between scorning/admonishing/questioning and defaming/wrongly accusing/slandering. It's not always easy to know where that fine line lies, nor is it easy to always make a unanimously agreed judgement call on whether something falls under what we would constitute as allowable and what we would constitute as not. It's easy to know what to do when something is - in our view - blatantly illegal or a mere flame-bait. We will simply delete it. It's easy to know what to do when something is - in our view - within the acceptable realm of speaking up. We simply let it exist here, regardless of whether we think it's ridiculous or ludicrous. But, in a case of doubt, it goes down to your own level of tolerance. Personally, in such cases, we prefer to be lenient and allow these thoughts to be heard. There is a price for that, though; those who elect to take upon themselves a crusade on a particularly controversial issue should bear in mind that they themselves are bound to be scorned back for their views. You cannot stand in the city square and tell everyone they are blind fools (and telling all Joe Bloggs fans that he's the worst dealer ever, or telling Fred Smith fans that he's nothing but a cheater, is exactly that - either way, you are telling those fans that they are blind fools) and do not expect it to go unnoticed. If you get a tomato in your face, you should also ask yourself if you didn't ask for it. Having said that, it should be made clear that counter-attacking a poster is different to personally insulting someone. Telling someone that his post is ridiculous, or even that he's a liar (if you can prove that!) is not the same as telling someone "you are an idiot who should be shot to death". We will tolerate to a large extent the first; We won't tolerate to any extent the second, that is abuse plain and simple. |
| 5. Personal Feuds. |
| Sometimes, though luckily not often, a Bulletin Board debate will turn into a personal feud between two posters. We want to make it perfectly clear that, a) We will not allow, under any circumstances, this feud to be carried out publicly; b) We will not intervene nor be a judge to personal feuds; and c) We will not offer any of the SEATCupra.net tools - primarily the Private Messaging system - to serve this feud, unless BOTH sides are willing to engage in this dialogue. If you send an offensive Private Message to another poster, unsolicited, be aware that it is their full right to complain to us about it, and should we find that PM to be indeed offensive, we will not allow you to again use the PM system, and upon repeated complaints (from one or all) treat this as any other public issue - we will ban that user altogether from the forum. Furthermore, in radical situations, when a couple of posters constantly attack each other or harass each other - in public or via PM - We will bar BOTH sides from exchanging ANY word on the forum (in public or via PM) with each other. If they continue to do so, one or all, they will be thrown outside. This is NOT a forum for personal feuds, put simply. Moreover, this is not a "who started it" situation. If someone insulted you, you are not absolved for insulting them back. And, if you think someone should be banned and we disagree - then tough; if we're not convinced about it (and you're welcome to try to convince us reasonably by private means ie email) then it doesn't license you to take the situation into your own hands and launch a campaign of harassments against that poster. Insulting them back won't make us think you're right; it will only make us think you're the trouble we should be dealing with. |
| 6. Who owns SEATCupra.net! |
| SEATCupra.net is managed as a non profit website and forum by a group of several volunteers, who control the day to day managment of the site and forum, and support the site financially with advertising sponsorship, SEATCupra.net is not a business, nor is it a club. We do not ask or demand any money from members, you are not in anyway asked to contribute to the financial burden or upkeep and it is not our intention or aim, to ever make this a member pay for website or forum Non of the admins, moderators, take any money from this site, it has its own bank account, it has always been designed to support itself financially with the aid of sponsorship, which it has done very successfully allowing it to continue to grow. All finances are put towards the upkeep of the server hosting, software licenses, support fees, any extra funding is invested back into the site, for new functionality, or for promotional items, ie Banners, Flags etc... for shows and BTCC meets. |
| 7. New Users. (Newbies) |
| If you are a new user, you are temporarily restricted from posting in our For Sale section, adding a signature and making use of the private messaging system. This is to prevent new users abusing the forum, and/or rogue traders scammers from taking advantage of the forum members. Please ensure you take some time to read all of the FAQ/Rules part of the forum. Restricted use for Newbies: ALL new users are restricted until they have exceeded more than 15 forum posts and 15 days of registration to the forum. Please note that this does not include any General Topic sections. PLEASE DO NOT SPAM THE FORUMS IN AN ATTEMPT TO GET YOUR POST COUNT UP! However we DO recommend the Introductions section as a good place to start to get your post counts up, say hello! Once 15 posts or more are reached and 15 days registration have passed, Newbies will then be automatically upgraded to Full Members. NOTE: There can be upto a 24 hour turnaround on the server, so though you may reach or even surpass 15 posts and 15 days registered, it will be approx 24 hours after that point that the server updates your user status to a Full Member. Please be patient! In lieu of the other rules above, a new member must adhere to, we also want to inform you that while we practice tolerance with regular users, we will practice absolutely none with new users (Newbies). If a new user joins to immediately be proven a problem, with behaviour, or spamming he/she will immediately be banned - no warnings, no discussions. Simple as that. If a new user cannot be bothered to read the terms and conditions they have just agreed to, let alone adhere to them, then we are not about to waste our time and resources on reforming them. Any signs of trouble will be nipped in the bud. We appreciate new users and want them to become a part of our great SEAT community. On the same hand we also want to protect the interests of our members. We hope you take the time to understand our wishes and wish you a warm welcome to the community. |
| 8. Contacting other members of the Forum |
| Under no circustances is any member permitted to create a thread attempting to contact another member. If that member wants to be contacted, they will have 'pressed' the correct buttons on their user profile. So.... to make it really clear for those of you that don't understand. DO NOT START A THREAD "FAO JIMMYBIGPANTS" OR "JIMMYBIGPANTS CLEAR YOUR PM'S" 1) if Jimmybigpants wanted to talk to you - they would have. 2) if Jimmybigpants' PM box is full, he gets an email telling him. Remembering that any other contact towards members must not fall foul of any other rules. The reasons for this are pretty obvious.... but to spell it out: If this forum is still about in 5 years time we don't want the database to be clogged up with pointless posts (probably in the Leon section) about people wanting to contact each other. |
| 9. Promoting of -- or Criticism of -- other websites |
| There is generally no prohibition whatsoever on mentioning other websites, qouting from other websites, or even recommending other websites. With one or two exceptions, these sites will usually show up *** in place of the URL. Though bear in mind we don't allow commerical posts, see our advertising section for more details. But if you came here in order to complain about how you got mistreated on another Bulletin Board, or came to invite everyone to join you on another Bulletin Board - your thread will be removed and you will be banned instantly, with no prior warning. Always make sure if you are linking to any other website or forum, that may contain sensitive, and/or copyrighted material, that you firstly seek both the permission of the sites author, your referencing from, and an admin of SEATCupra.net first. Website links that contain overtly violent or political or religious content, terrorism or any other illegal activities including hardcore pornography will be removed, and the poster will be subject to a warning in accordance with our rules above. |
| 10. Posting pictures on SEATCupra.net Forum. |
| Images whose copyright you do not own; that reside on websites other than SEATCupra.net or your own, should be posted as a LINK only. If it's one odd image - the copyright holder and the website owner may tend to overlook. But some have been known to overdo it, posting hi-res images from other websites, which not only infringes that websites copyright but also hijacks their bandwidth. So please use the vB tags. [URL] location of image or link address [/URL] As a rule though it is always best to first seek permission from the site author and the forum admin staff. Please respect the copyright of printed material also, do not scan in magazine articles and post them on the forum, without first gaining the permission of both the copyright holder and the forum admin staff. If its not your image, or from a press office, then you don't own the copyright, so please respect the rules of use, of the copyright holders. Forum image privacy When posting images of privately owned vehicles, such as forum members cars, please ensure the vehicle registration plates are blanked out using a suitable photo editing package such as Photoshop, Paint Shop Pro, for example, if your unable to do this yourself, speak to one of the admins/moderators or another experienced forum member who maybe able to offer advice or help you to do this. Pictures not following this privacy rule will be removed. Attachments. The attachments feature of the forum is currently disabled, to help reduce database load, and increase forum efficiency. However you may link pictures of your vehicle, or other images to the forum by using the vB tags [IMG] url of image location [/IMG] We do not presently provide hosting of images at SEATCupra.net, but you can use one of the free photo hosting sites, Try Fotopic.net for example. Others free picture hosting sites: PhotoBucket Imageshack Try to keep the image sizes down, linking to a massive picture file, causes problems for people using slower internet connections, and also reflows the forum pages, making them harder to read for everyone. We will remove any images deemed to be a nuisance. |
| 11. Traders, Companies - Advertising information |
| With the exception of official SEAT dealers in the dealer stock section of the forums, no traders / tuners / retailers / service or parts professionals are allowed to advertise their stock, company website or contact details. Without the prior approval of the websites Admin team. Any adverts or contact details posted without permission will be removed and you will be directed to our terms. Regular advertising is permitted only for our sponsors banner advertisement. We may occasionally consider one-off offers which may benefit our members, however please seek the permission of the forum admin staff before posting in the forum. Any unauthorised advertising will be removed at the discretion of the team - this includes links/banners in signatures/avatars. At present SEATCupra.net offer a number of opportunities for companies to sponsor SEATCupra.net. The first is to take out a banner with us over 12 or 6 months. The banner is an ideal way of reaching members due to it being actively and randomly rotated to display on all pages within the forum. Your banner advert can be seen potentially several hundred thousand times each year just on the forums, and in addition via our website not only the members but anyone who views our popular and active webpages, which have good Google links, for active search results. Advertising. If you have any enquiries regarding advertising please email us. advertising@seatcupra.net Please give your email a clear description as it maybe considered SPAM, we will reply with details of our rates and packages available if we feel your business will be of interest to the community. Please note that we are very selective over which products or services we will actively promote on SEATCupra.net. We do not attract advertising for financial gain only to support our running costs. We always reserve the right to refuse advertising that does not fit the interests of the members or the site. If we consider we have too many advertisers at any point in time we may not be in a position to take on any new advertisers. We also offer the option of taking out a dedicated forum area to discuss and advertise your products within the ‘Sponsors and Supporters’ forum, allowing you access to set up Group Buys, and permission to have company links in your forum signatures, which allows your company to develop products and directly converse to your potential customers. Statistics: The forum has presently over 66,000 members, which at the moment is expanding by around 800 new members per month on average, of which at least 5000 are classed as very active using the forum every day, and over 20000 are classed as active, which means they visit the forum fairly regularly each month. This does not include non member guests and casual visitors, unique visitors number over 400,000 per month. The usage stats on the site and forum combined are around 8 million hits per month, with roughly a 1:15 ratio, so any advert could be seen approximately up to 2,500,000 times per month, the average click through rate for adverts are potentially around 2,000,000 per year. We are a non-profit enthusiasts site, all our forum staff are unpaid volunteers, we keep it free to members with the assistance of paid (great value!) sponsors. If you wish to discuss our advertising rates, or wish to offer discounts, or any other special offers please contact us as above first. |
| 12. Forum: For Sale/Classified Section Rules & Guidelines |
| IMPORTANT INFORMATION THE FOR SALE SECTION IS THE ONLY PLACE ON THE FORUM YOU CAN PLACE CLASSIFIEDS. POST THEM ELSEWHERE ON THE FORUM AND THEY WILL BE REMOVED. 1) Only the Advertiser can reply to their post. 2) The advert will be removed from the website after 45 days. This includes all attachments & information. 3) Neither SEATCupra.net, nor any member of the Team can take any responsibility for the adverts placed. 4) Buyer Beware. Always ascertain a level of confidence with the advertiser before parting with your money. The last thing that we want is for someone to get ripped off. 5) Only Full Members can post for sale adverts, Newbies need to be promoted to Full Member access before being able to post any for sale adverts. (At least 15 posts & 15 days membership to non general chat sections will see you promoted). 6) All adverts are subject to 'approval' before being viewed publicly. If they don't comply with the rules set out here, they will be removed & you won't be informed. So make sure your follow these guidelines carefully. RULES: Please note that all adverts are Approved by our moderators before they appear on the forum, usually within 24 hours. If your advert does not meet the rules set out below it will not be approved and therefore will not appear on the forum. 1) Everything must have a clear price stated, or at worst an “offers around”. No Price, no Ad. It will be removed. 2) No Commercial posts, (Traders adverts will be removed) – Please don't use SEATCupra.net as a springboard for your latest business opportunity. SEAT dealers may post in the dealers stock section of the forum, or they may request a section. Please contact an admin. 3) No selling of illegal items (i.e drugs/medicinal or otherwise) anything else deemed illegal or copyrighted items. This includes software. Any such ads will be removed, and the offender banned from the site. You have been warned. 4) You must include alternative contact information, ideally an email address and/or phone number. DO NOT RELY ON THE PRIVATE MESSAGE SYSTEM. New users and casual viewers of the forum can not reply using private messages. If you want to sell something make sure they can contact you. Any such adverts submitted without contact information will not be approved and will be deleted. 5) NO EBAY LINKS - Were all capable of using Ebay. GUIDELINES: Some useful information to consider before submitting your advert. Give it a clear Description – Accurately describe the item you wish to sell in the title. Bad Example: **LOOK HERE** Good Example: 2001Y Ibiza Cupra 36K Modified. Then include any and all relevant information inside the post regarding all other aspects of advert including links to any images. Don't forget the all important PRICE & CONTACT DETAILS Bad Examples will not be approved. Pictures – A good set of pictures will help no end to draw interest to the goods you're selling. CODE OF CONDUCT:- Placing an advert on SCN means you are agreeing to our terms While any placed advert shall be entirely the legal responsibility of the seller, all adverts will comply under the websites code of conduct. SEATCupra.net does not in way warrant or guarantee the For Sale section of the forum. Any financial loss is at the risk of the buyer and seller...take steps to protect yourselves. Buyers and sellers make use of the For Sale areas at their own risk. By placing an advert you are agreeing to our terms of use and SEATCupra.net is not in any way legally responsible should any agreement go wrong. It is the duty of the Seller to accurately describe the item(s) for sale and set a clear price as per our rules. Any extra charges such as delivery charges must be agreed with the buyer. If you enter into an agreement on price and delivery charges, you can not then go back on that agreement. {once the agreement has been settled} IMPORTANT INFORMATION REGARDING PAYMENT: Payment is the responsibility of the buyer and seller to negotiate, and any payment should be made promptly. SEATCupra.net recommends the use of PayPal for any transactions. Do NOT use PP Gift as this leaves you without financial protection, also Do NOT send CASH or use direct bank transfer ie BACS. If for any reason the seller is fraudulent, you will have no protection. BUYER BEWARE!! - If a seller or buyer makes unreasonable demands regarding payment terms, WALK AWAY!!. If you suspect foul play or fraud inform the moderators. SEATCupra.net does not warrant the use of the site for classifieds, and we offer no financial protection should a deal be fraudulent. We will help where we can, but the onus is on the buyer/seller to be proactive in protecting themselves from fraud. The seller must post or dispatch by courier, the item in a reasonable time frame. It is also good practice to inform the buyer when the item has been despatched. If the item is worth a considerable amount, recorded delivery or postal insurance should always be considered. Buyers should allow a reasonable amount of time for the items to arrive if it has been despatched, and upon arrival the item should be checked immediately. If a problem exists, inform the seller immediately. Any seller or buyer that fails to meet their obligation on any For Sale agreement will be barred from using the for sale section, or even removed from the forum entirely. Note that in the case of theft or fraud, all information regarding logs, ip, email information will be passed to the relevant authorities upon request. SCN reserves the right to remove any adverts its moderators deem to be unsuitable. |
| 13. Group Buy permissions |
| Group Buys are only allowed in official forum sponsor sections when posted by official sponsors. Groups Buys and Group Buy Feelers are prohibited from being posted by members without the express permission of a forum administrator and are only approved in very exceptional circumstances. Unauthorised Group Buys and Group Buy Feelers will be removed from the forum. |
| 14. Main Site & Forum copyright |
| While you are free to link to articles and any images on the main SEATCupra.net site, we would like to remind you that the main site and forums are © copyright SEATCupra.net and the relevant author(s), press outlets and media who provide material that contibutes to SEATCupra.net. Any other content is copyright SEAT, SEAT Sport, SEAT UK, SEAT Sport UK see their relevant terms of use policies. SEATCupra.net is not an official SEAT website, and is not affiliated to SEAT in any way. Views and opinions posted on the forums are those given by the poster(s) only and do not reflect the views of SEATCupra.net nor SEAT. Nor are they endorsed by either SEATCupra.net or SEAT in any way. All trademarks and copyright remain property of their respective owners, and are fully recognised. A full terms of use policy can be found here: SCN Terms of Use Key forum contacts can be found here: SCN Key Contacts |
| END NOTICE |
| Finally, we want to stress that all these rules are not challenges but rather boundaries we have set. We didn't make them up because we were bored, we came up with them after, in excess of 5 years, managing what is one the busiest and best supported SEAT related forums on the world wide web. Please don't test us: we really do know by now what we're doing... Having said that, know that you can - ALWAYS - contact by e-mail one of the forum staff and offer advice, feedback, criticism or just make a general inquiry. Thank you for taking the time and patience to read and understand our ruling guidlines, please enjoy using SEATCupra.net as it was intended the No1 Source of SEAT Information, and a kick ass group of good people to boot. |