fitted some to my Mk2 beeza over last month or so, model that used to have opening rear windows - from plastics for performance - will stick some pics up if it ever stops raining over the weekend
http://www.plastics4performance.co.uk/index.asp
http://www.plastics4performance.co.uk/index.asp
estimate 20kg loss, glass, seals and fixings, and significant as high up weight in car - would have had an exact figure but broke the back window getting it out....well say broke, threw a tool through it in a fit of rage and reduced it to a pile of bling
rear window is an absolute sod to get out, bought a proper bonded window removel tool and it wouldn't shift it - reason being that the rear window is not just bonded in but has a bloomin great rubber seal round the edge also which is also glued in, just couldn't shift it and didn't want to mess up tailgate paint so ended up breaking it.
Rear side windows fairly easy, needed to cut them a bit smaller from those supplied due to the way I have fitted them. I have removed the rubber seals and bonded the windows directly to the metal lip that used to hold the seal. This means that the window is inset maybe 10mm from where it would be normally but I have done some black painting around the window and you cannot tell, looks stock.
Front drivers window I have left as glass so I can open it easily (like window down driving) and passenger side is now plastic just fitted as a replacement for glass, left electric window mech in as are probably replacing the whole door for a fibreglass one soon.
While rear window was out, have taken a whole lot of metal out of the hatch, very light now, so maybe 3kg there also
need to get it weighed at some point, should be getting on for 900kg or maybe even less now
rear window is an absolute sod to get out, bought a proper bonded window removel tool and it wouldn't shift it - reason being that the rear window is not just bonded in but has a bloomin great rubber seal round the edge also which is also glued in, just couldn't shift it and didn't want to mess up tailgate paint so ended up breaking it.
Rear side windows fairly easy, needed to cut them a bit smaller from those supplied due to the way I have fitted them. I have removed the rubber seals and bonded the windows directly to the metal lip that used to hold the seal. This means that the window is inset maybe 10mm from where it would be normally but I have done some black painting around the window and you cannot tell, looks stock.
Front drivers window I have left as glass so I can open it easily (like window down driving) and passenger side is now plastic just fitted as a replacement for glass, left electric window mech in as are probably replacing the whole door for a fibreglass one soon.
While rear window was out, have taken a whole lot of metal out of the hatch, very light now, so maybe 3kg there also
need to get it weighed at some point, should be getting on for 900kg or maybe even less now
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llion_72
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where are these photos?? well interested in seeing what these look like.
only thing iv got an issue with is the fact that windows are an important part of the cars strength. If ur just binding them to the metal surely they aint performing the same job as the glass ones that were sealed in properly in terms of structural strengthening?
also are the plastic ones as strong as glass panels?
only thing iv got an issue with is the fact that windows are an important part of the cars strength. If ur just binding them to the metal surely they aint performing the same job as the glass ones that were sealed in properly in terms of structural strengthening?
also are the plastic ones as strong as glass panels?
llion_72
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robs is pretty much as stripped as it can get,he even weighed the sound deadening in the boot he removed.its been a mission of his for a few years now.
he even has a poo before a sprint.
thats dedication
Give me a month or so and i might be able to come up with somthing/service. Im just starting in the autoglazing trade and have been told they use polycarbonate as a temp fix. Thats assuming thats the kind of thing your talking about?
David.
David.
poo and wee actually, couple kgs on a good day LOL, was going to go naked also but the scrutineers didn't like the idea
dont think the windows do anything for cars structure - the rear window and door windows are in a hinged part, thus forming no appreciable part of the cars structure. Side rear windows are hinged in GTi's also so again no problem there.
The ibiza is a heavy car, I know of pug 205's in sprint trim that are 750kg, there's not much left of mine but it has a cage = 45kg added back in, and still has a heater and electric windows for my comfort and useability. Pretty stripped out Mk2 golf track cars are around 850kg mark so I would be suprised if mine was less than this, the ibiza being a newer car has just more metal in its chassis and will never get down to what you can do with an XR2, 205, saxo etc or heaven forbid a citroen AX....500kg possible....but you would die instantly in a crash.
I'd be very happy with 850 if it was that - will get it weighed sometime soon and will post pics of windows when it stops raining
separate items - probably - give them a call
Rob
dont think the windows do anything for cars structure - the rear window and door windows are in a hinged part, thus forming no appreciable part of the cars structure. Side rear windows are hinged in GTi's also so again no problem there.
The ibiza is a heavy car, I know of pug 205's in sprint trim that are 750kg, there's not much left of mine but it has a cage = 45kg added back in, and still has a heater and electric windows for my comfort and useability. Pretty stripped out Mk2 golf track cars are around 850kg mark so I would be suprised if mine was less than this, the ibiza being a newer car has just more metal in its chassis and will never get down to what you can do with an XR2, 205, saxo etc or heaven forbid a citroen AX....500kg possible....but you would die instantly in a crash.
I'd be very happy with 850 if it was that - will get it weighed sometime soon and will post pics of windows when it stops raining
separate items - probably - give them a call
Rob
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