Recommended engine oil

[slartibartfast]

Can anyone tell me the exact specification for the engine oil for my 2019 1.0 tsi 115 Arona?

The handbook is not helping, it says -

a) Only use recommended oils, otherwise you may damage the engine. If the engine oil level is too low You can get information about the correct engine oil for your vehicle in your specialised shop. If you have to change your engine oil, use this oil. If the recommended engine oil is not available, in the event of an emergency you can change the oil once with a maximum of 0.5 L of the next oil until the next oil change: Petrol engines: standard VW 504 00, VW 502 00, VW 508 00, ACEA C3 or API SN. Diesel engines: standard VW 507 00, VW 505 01, ACEA C3 or API CK-4. Have the oil changed by a specialised workshop. Using engine oil that is compliant with the VW 504 00 standard instead of VW 508 00 could increase consumption and the vehicle’s CO2 emissions.

Does this mean I need WV 508 00 specification? if so, it seems hard to find, also should I use 5w30 0w20 5w40 or something else?

By the way, I an not on Romania, no idea how to change that to UK in my profile.

 

[slartibartfast]

This is the only relevant sticker under the bonnet.

 

[TheSwede]

....... Using engine oil that is compliant with the VW 504 00 standard instead of VW 508 00 could increase consumption and the vehicle’s CO2 emissions.

Same situation regarding our Skoda 2018.
I have used 504.00 oil 5w-30 in our 1.0 TSI Skoda Fabia. Recommended 508.00 0w-20. As it says in the text perhaps a minor increase in consumption if you use 504.00. We don’t notice any difference.

 

[Tell]

Yes you end up Googling the engine brands that match the VW standard that they specify.

Bought this one for that engine for topping up. Obviously, if not topping up there may be other more cost-effective options. I don't think we have ever topped up with it. In four years. The engine goes fine, who needs that extra cylinder.

Castrol 15BC3C Edge Professional LL IV FE 0w-20​

 

[G.P]

Our Ibiza (same engine) runs on Shell Helix Ultra ECT 5W30 VW 507..

 

[TheSwede]

Our Ibiza (same engine) runs on Shell Helix Ultra ECT 5W30 VW 507..

Clarification: 507.00 is for Diesel. OP have a TSI then its 504.00 or 508.00. The same oil mostly supports both 504.00 and 507.00, eg Shell Helix Ultra ECT 5W-30. I use Mobile 1 ESP 5w-30.

 

[Tell]

It's this service page manual from Erwin:

It's a CHZJ engine it hinges on the marked up:

(1) The use of engine oil in accordance with the specifications VW 504 00 instead of VW 508 00 may result in a deterioration of the
exhaust gas values of the vehicle.

508.00 is what you are suppose to put in it unless you want the warning tab above. That is why we bought the quality stuff, what the dealer puts in it who knows.

The better viscosity of 508.00 leads to the lower pollution and better mileage. Hence why the manufacturer wants you to stick to the designated oil since the benchmarking is done against that.

I have years ago had the dealer put the wrong oil in. 900cc, petrol Uno. It was like having treacle in. Struggled to start up from cold as it churned the oil about. Pass on what they put.

 

[RUM4MO]

I was "passing the time" in my local Halfords on Saturday, and I noticed that Halfords have started to stock the latest offerings from Shell in 0W-30 - and in maybe 3 versions to suit differing car marques, including VW Group, one thing to note is, probably as expected, it is API "SP" compliant so that means that it helps subduing LSPI in engines that tend to "use a bit of oil".
I guessed that "something" was coming wrt to engine oil brands in Halfords as I managed to buy Mobil One ESP 5W-30 with API SP rating at a good price, back in maybe October last year when I serviced my older daughter's 2019 SEAT Leon Cupra which seems mainly to get used in town!

I understand that this discussion concerns more 0W-20 than 0W-30 oil to VW Group specs, but I'm just adding in what I discovered although it might be old news to many of you, also 0W-30 must be slightly "heavier" than 0W-20 - if that makes anyone concerned about using "lighter" oil breath easier.

 

[KC Ripper]

Can anyone tell me the exact specification for the engine oil for my 2019 1.0 tsi 115 Arona?

The handbook is not helping, it says -

a) Only use recommended oils, otherwise you may damage the engine. If the engine oil level is too low You can get information about the correct engine oil for your vehicle in your specialised shop. If you have to change your engine oil, use this oil. If the recommended engine oil is not available, in the event of an emergency you can change the oil once with a maximum of 0.5 L of the next oil until the next oil change: Petrol engines: standard VW 504 00, VW 502 00, VW 508 00, ACEA C3 or API SN. Diesel engines: standard VW 507 00, VW 505 01, ACEA C3 or API CK-4. Have the oil changed by a specialised workshop. Using engine oil that is compliant with the VW 504 00 standard instead of VW 508 00 could increase consumption and the vehicle’s CO2 emissions.

Does this mean I need WV 508 00 specification? if so, it seems hard to find, also should I use 5w30 0w20 5w40 or something else?

By the way, I an not on Romania, no idea how to change that to UK in my profile.

I have a 2019 Arona 1.0 115hp. I had mine serviced by the local SEAT dealer recently and they said I was a little low. This is the oil they put in it.

 

[Tell]

I have a 2019 Arona 1.0 115hp. I had mine serviced by the local SEAT dealer recently and they said I was a little low. This is the oil they put in it.

Oh yes, Their little designer bottles. That's the recommended one same as the Castrol posted up.

With my old Altea when it was new I bought some in Germany from VW garage. I got given their free velcrose boot bag and the little bottle. Changing to the Ateca I tipped that topping up oil into the container with that spec and tipped the new spec for the Ateca into the topping up oil I keep in the boot.

With diesel SCR we don't tend to have loss of oil crisis and what to put in it. The regeneration cycle using the diesel ends up back in the engine oil so you have to check it's not going up to high . All been fine.

 

[RUM4MO]

I only bought boot bags for theses oil bottles AFTER opening the boot of my Passat at a motorway service area on an extremely hot summer day - to be welcomed by a strongish smell of warm new engine oil, lesson learned! At least I was smart enough to know exactly what had happened, so only needed to move that oil bottle back upright and re-secure its cap - and place lots and lost of paper towels on/around the "wetted" areas.

 

[Tell]

The clever Germans giving away a free boot tidy with the dealers name on it as well. He was good. Checked the oil level. Topped up and we were away... after paying ofcourse. Least if it's a VAG car you can drop into any VAG dealer in a moment of need.

 

[RUM4MO]

I was "passing the time" in my local Halfords on Saturday, and I noticed that Halfords have started to stock the latest offerings from Shell in 0W-30 - and in maybe 3 versions to suit differing car marques, including VW Group, one thing to note is, probably as expected, it is API "SP" compliant so that means that it helps subduing LSPI in engines that tend to "use a bit of oil".
I guessed that "something" was coming wrt to engine oil brands in Halfords as I managed to buy Mobil One ESP 5W-30 with API SP rating at a good price, back in maybe October last year when I serviced my older daughter's 2019 SEAT Leon Cupra which seems mainly to get used in town!

I understand that this discussion concerns more 0W-20 than 0W-30 oil to VW Group specs, but I'm just adding in what I discovered although it might be old news to many of you, also 0W-30 must be slightly "heavier" than 0W-20 - if that makes anyone concerned about using "lighter" oil breath easier.

I've just been on the Shell website and it claims that the latest or newish versions of the oils that I noticed in Halfords was only API SN compliant, so I'll need to check my facts again - but I was pleasantly surprised when I read, on the labels in Halfords, that it was API SP compliant, so I'm sure that I did not misread these labels. Time will tell!

 

[RUM4MO]

Okay I've been back into Halfords to check what the API rating of these "newer" Shell oils are, and I was wrong, none of them have API SP rating, some have "SN +" quoted which can reduce the build up of oil on the back of the valves, so maybe slower coking up of the valves, it must have magic properties!

 

[G.P]

Clarification: 507.00 is for Diesel. OP have a TSI then its 504.00 or 508.00. The same oil mostly supports both 504.00 and 507.00, eg Shell Helix Ultra ECT 5W-30. I use Mobile 1 ESP 5w-30.

Shell Helix Ultra ECT 5W30 is VW 504.00.

I tried Mobile 1 oils once..

 

[TheSwede]

Shell Helix Ultra ECT 5W30 is VW 504.00

Yes, that is what I sayed notice "eg".... Have also used Shell ETC a couple of years ago.

 

[Tell]

504.00 and 508.00 are the flexible service interval oils and you suppose to put 508.00 in it at per the table, it's the CHZJ engine fitted to the tsi 1.0 Arona. That if you are on flexible interval services. If you aren't on flexible service intervals, like having it serviced annualy then 502.00 is specified. 508 is bracketed from 00 and up. Lesser ones aren't.

If the dealer is putting 502.00 spec oil in it at fixed interval services then there is no point in putting 508.00 in it. But then given you don't know what they are putting in it. 508.00 is just dandy. Why I opt to top up with the variable spec oil.

Someone servicing it themselves on a fixed interval would go for 502.00

Skoda description

Genuine Oils - VW Standards

www.skoda-auto.com

And

Volkswagen Oil Specifications - oilspecifications.org

www.oilspecifications.org

For those on variable service interval the car can measure the viscosity and claw back the miles. What happened to my brother once that didn't obey the oil standards of long life oil and slopped what he already had in it, shifted him onto the fixed service interval. You do need to be aware of whether you are running on variable or fixed services. Cheapskates like the ability of stretching the service to two years but slop the wrong oil into it and get picked up. I haven't gone through the Arona menus which give you the count down for the two, but certainly Ateca owners in the past got miffed when the variable isn't two years after all e.g.. long life.

By Googling the brand against the VW spec it tells you. Basically if the Arona 1.0 is on long service intervals then it is the VW508.00 if not 502.00. Not 504.00 if long service intervals as it says in the Vag technical notes. It is all based on what regime the car is run on. They leave the factory set to flexible then once put on Seat plans get put onto fixed... generally. Those that don't put then on service plans but keep them on flexible have to watch what they top up with if it's taking a lot oil.

 

[TheSwede]

"Supposed to put in 508 00". Extracion from your posting #7 in this tread. Look into attached picture. you can use 504 00 instread of 508 00 flex service (LL) but perhaps with deterioatation of exhaust values... no problem in my world