Hi all
Before I get flamed, this post is about a product which isn't currently on a Leon, but its the same product you will be getting (give or take).
Due to a number of reasons which I won't discuss in detail I am back on the Revo bandwagon.
The MTM map although a quality product in its own right was....well Germanic (somewhat too polite, generally efficient but unexciting).
I'd initially gone with MTM due to a dealer preference, so it showed goodwill. However after a month of motoring it was lacking something and so I have switched back to Revo as:
a) The customer service is always fantastic
b) The product is actually very good
c) The swtichable maps and security features on the SPS are a key feature
The good news is that this is a great map. Your 261bhp Cupra's are going to feel very lively once this is installed. m0rk managed to get the TCS light to flicker from standing start which is more than I could achieve with the MTM.
Boost is running at about 22psi, which given the modifications to the new enlarged turbo 2.0T is no problem.
Interestingly where the problems with this engine occur are:
1) The fuel pump doesn't have enough capacity to feed the injectors if its mapped to aggressively (the injectors are only 15% up on the standard ones, but it looks like they have left the stock fuel pump on. Hardcore modifiers should be prepared to uprate it)
2) The DV will start to flutter if too much boost is put through it (come on Forge, get us a replacement ready)
3) There is another 'device/valve' with a 3 letter acronym which I can remember the name of which is supposedly giving some modifiers some issues as its filling with oil!
So the long and the short of it is this. Trust me when I say that you can pay £1050 for a map which alledges to be a premium product. Ultimately its just code. I'm not saying you should go out and spend £199 on a piece of backstreet coding, but be aware that some tuners will a produce a map that delivers gains, whilst others will deliver maps that will deliver a real driver sensation.
The Revo map (like the MTM map), is linear and progressive with power / feel right the way across the pedal travel. Where it improves significantly on the MTM is from 50+ (in gear acceleration). I know there are those who prefer a great big dollop of boost to push them back into the seat as soon as they depress the pedal (giving the sensation of speed). However the car is actually quicker when the map is spread across the length of the pedal as traction is maintained and all the components of the engine / management system are dealing with more rational requests.
The MTM felt a little flat by comparison, and its key strengths were delivered only when you'd fired off from a standing start using momentum to get there. If you were at 50, then dropped to 4th of course you would accelerate, but not at the same rate as with the Revo code. I'm not saying the MTM was a bad code. It's probably deeply reliable. It just fails to deliver the outright feel of the Revo code.
What's astonishing about this new engine is that you can still keep pushing beyond 7k and the car doesn't feel breathless or asthmatic. The hardest part is being able to change gear quick enough to keep it on the boil! (Armrest needs to be lifted out of the way. Whats an even bigger bonus is that the car retains all of its composure even with the Revo map running TIMING: 5, BOOST: 9. There are no TCS light antics, torque steer or significant front end lift.
So later today the MTM bagde will be making way for the usual (as per the LCR and Ibiza TDi) Revo badge in silver. I've learned a very valuable lesson and its that you don't always get everything you want even when you pay top dollar.
To those considering the remap option I can heartily recommend this Revo product. Go play!
Before I get flamed, this post is about a product which isn't currently on a Leon, but its the same product you will be getting (give or take).
Due to a number of reasons which I won't discuss in detail I am back on the Revo bandwagon.
The MTM map although a quality product in its own right was....well Germanic (somewhat too polite, generally efficient but unexciting).
I'd initially gone with MTM due to a dealer preference, so it showed goodwill. However after a month of motoring it was lacking something and so I have switched back to Revo as:
a) The customer service is always fantastic
b) The product is actually very good
c) The swtichable maps and security features on the SPS are a key feature
The good news is that this is a great map. Your 261bhp Cupra's are going to feel very lively once this is installed. m0rk managed to get the TCS light to flicker from standing start which is more than I could achieve with the MTM.
Boost is running at about 22psi, which given the modifications to the new enlarged turbo 2.0T is no problem.
Interestingly where the problems with this engine occur are:
1) The fuel pump doesn't have enough capacity to feed the injectors if its mapped to aggressively (the injectors are only 15% up on the standard ones, but it looks like they have left the stock fuel pump on. Hardcore modifiers should be prepared to uprate it)
2) The DV will start to flutter if too much boost is put through it (come on Forge, get us a replacement ready)
3) There is another 'device/valve' with a 3 letter acronym which I can remember the name of which is supposedly giving some modifiers some issues as its filling with oil!
So the long and the short of it is this. Trust me when I say that you can pay £1050 for a map which alledges to be a premium product. Ultimately its just code. I'm not saying you should go out and spend £199 on a piece of backstreet coding, but be aware that some tuners will a produce a map that delivers gains, whilst others will deliver maps that will deliver a real driver sensation.
The Revo map (like the MTM map), is linear and progressive with power / feel right the way across the pedal travel. Where it improves significantly on the MTM is from 50+ (in gear acceleration). I know there are those who prefer a great big dollop of boost to push them back into the seat as soon as they depress the pedal (giving the sensation of speed). However the car is actually quicker when the map is spread across the length of the pedal as traction is maintained and all the components of the engine / management system are dealing with more rational requests.
The MTM felt a little flat by comparison, and its key strengths were delivered only when you'd fired off from a standing start using momentum to get there. If you were at 50, then dropped to 4th of course you would accelerate, but not at the same rate as with the Revo code. I'm not saying the MTM was a bad code. It's probably deeply reliable. It just fails to deliver the outright feel of the Revo code.
What's astonishing about this new engine is that you can still keep pushing beyond 7k and the car doesn't feel breathless or asthmatic. The hardest part is being able to change gear quick enough to keep it on the boil! (Armrest needs to be lifted out of the way. Whats an even bigger bonus is that the car retains all of its composure even with the Revo map running TIMING: 5, BOOST: 9. There are no TCS light antics, torque steer or significant front end lift.
So later today the MTM bagde will be making way for the usual (as per the LCR and Ibiza TDi) Revo badge in silver. I've learned a very valuable lesson and its that you don't always get everything you want even when you pay top dollar.
To those considering the remap option I can heartily recommend this Revo product. Go play!
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