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Old 18-01-2010, 21:37   #1
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camber adjustment

hi does the ibiza fr tdi have adjustable camber?? if not is there any camber adjustment ends available to fit at all?

many thanks simon
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Old 18-01-2010, 21:45   #2
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There is no camber adjustment intended, but a small ammount can usually be found in bolt holes.
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Old 18-01-2010, 22:01   #3
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Not as standard but you can buy camber shims...

An example: http://www.wheel-*****s.com/forum/vi...hp?f=17&t=1236
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Old 18-01-2010, 22:03   #4
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Not as standard but you can buy camber shims...

An example: http://www.wheel-*****s.com/forum/vi...hp?f=17&t=1236
Ah, with coilovers already fitted I thought the problem would be at the front end! Ah your link has been nobbled probably by the polite police!
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Old 19-01-2010, 10:01   #5
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yea it the front that is causing the problems is it cause i have lowerd my vehicle?
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Old 19-01-2010, 12:02   #6
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yea it the front that is causing the problems is it cause i have lowerd my vehicle?
I thought camber shims were only any good on the back where the stub axle mounts to the beam using a flat flange ?

Three options for the front that i am aware of are :

CUPRA wishbones are slightly shorter to correct the camber of a lower ride height as standard.

You can slot the three holes in the outside of the wishbone to bring the wheels in and correct the camber.

You may be able to find eccentric or adjustable top mounts to correct camber

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Old 20-01-2010, 18:09   #7
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looked into this, only way I could think of this is to make up some new shorter bottom arms, one off's
BUT
unless your a fabricator or got wads of dough, this is gonna be expensive.
I also thought that to alter the camber via the bottom it would make to drive shaft too long as the
pulling in of the bottom of the strut WILL shorten the shaft.
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Old 20-01-2010, 18:26   #8
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Altering the position of the lower ball joint also alters your castor angle.

Top mounts is the best way forward, expensive though.
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Altering the position of the lower ball joint also alters your castor angle.
How ? - If all you do is move the ball joint in towards the chassis by slotting the wishbone holes - the castor will remain the same.

I agree that if the ball joint moves forwards or backwards you will change the castor.

The same is true with eccentric top mounts - they change camber and castor at the same time.
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Old 20-01-2010, 23:02   #10
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where can i find eccentric top mounts? dont like the sound of fabricating bottom arms or anything
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where can i find eccentric top mounts? dont like the sound of fabricating bottom arms or anything
Usually a motorsport suppliers.

these guys dont list ibiza or polo but you could ask

http://www.motorsportengineering.co....p%20mounts.htm

KW do them but they are NOT cheap

http://www.venommotorsport.com/manuf...at&model=Ibiza

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Old 20-01-2010, 23:12   #12
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Altering the position of the lower ball joint also alters your castor angle.

Top mounts is the best way forward, expensive though.
Instead of wating money on top mounts, you can adjut the holes in the strut tower.

Mine had the holes slotted, camber adjusted to where it needed, then a washer welded to the strut tower in the correct position
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Old 21-01-2010, 19:36   #13
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have you gt any pictures? them top mounts look well over priced for what they do!!!
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Old 21-01-2010, 19:45   #14
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have you gt any pictures? them top mounts look well over priced for what they do!!!
Not really as they aren't really designed for people using them on road to set them up once and leave it. If you are doing lots of track days or entering a race series they are very good
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Not really as they aren't really designed for people using them on road to set them up once and leave it. If you are doing lots of track days or entering a race series they are very good
Can you explain why people doing lots of track days or a race series would need to adjust camber more often than someone in a road car?
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As you change the suspension geometry to suit the track/conditions. for example a high speed flowing track would require different camber settings to a tight twisty one
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can you buy camber shims to correct it then?
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can you buy camber shims to correct it then?
Yes you can - FOR THE REAR END! We have worked out that its the front end that you are trying to sort out.
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Old 22-01-2010, 00:09   #19
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IIRC, using Cupra wishbone bushed helps too (as a cheap fix)
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Having just the same issues mate. Tyres have just lasted me 5500 and now need changing! Right piss take!

Think Laser allignment and cupra bushes will help, although fitting on the bushes can be around £150/£200... Cheaper to buy tyres lol
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