ERROR - All lights goes on ...

i2c

Active Member
Apr 20, 2015
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... but not Christmast time.

Have Ibiza 2011, diesel 77 kW.

From few days ago, car started normaly, but many lights stay (go) on:
- engine
- brake
- steering
- glow plug (blinking)

ABS and servo steering NOT work.
Check fuses in main box - all ok.
Also check 3 fuses in small box near battery, also OK.
Check both connectors on ECU and one on ABS unit - also ok.
Want to check relays - but not find - only two is near (upper) fuse box and one near battery.
Where is?
Have this car more (hidden) fuses?
Have this car special or main CAN-BUS relay unit?

Any idea, solutions?

Make diagnose with VCDS, here is full log.
Try to erase DTC, but on ECU stay, also can not erase in some units.

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
4B-Multifunc. Module -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000

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Address 01: Engine (J623-CAYC) Labels: None
Part No SW: 03L 906 023 LD HW: 03L 906 023 Q
Component: 1,6l R4 CR td H33 8836
Revision: --H33--- Serial number:
Coding: 00114016002400080000
Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023LD 003005
ROD: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023LD.rod
VCID: 73E1DBFF6975

1 Fault Found:
6086 - No Communication with ABS Brake Control Module
U0121 00 [173] - Short to Plus
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 65
Mileage: 184642 km
Date: 2053.14.28
Time: 16:41:15

Readiness: 0110 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes
Cannot be reached

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255) Labels: None
Part No SW: 6J0 820 043 C HW: 6J0 820 043 C
Component: Climatronic H07 0606
Revision: S0000000
VCID: 2443E8A39C1B

2 Faults Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module
013 - Check DTC Memory
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101101
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 1
Mileage: 184041 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2120.14.18
Time: 17:09:51

01316 - ABS Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 8
Reset counter: 1
Mileage: 184041 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2120.14.18
Time: 17:09:55


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels: 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 937 087 K HW: 6R0 937 087
Component: BCM PQ25 H+4 H46 0251
Revision: BF046001 Serial number: 0434 157111298
Coding: 228829E888610100002000006E0B0CC80080400F608C0000200000000000
Shop #: WSC 64564 324 38760
VCID: 458555277761

Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 N HW: 6R0 959 801 N
Component: J386__TSG_FT 003 3130
Coding: 020000

Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 Q HW: 6R0 959 802 Q
Component: J387__TSG_BT 003 3130
Coding: 020000

2 Faults Found:
00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 41
Time Indication: 0

00538 - Reference Voltage
011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101011
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 3
Reset counter: 41
Mileage: 184041 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2120.14.18
Time: 17:02:08


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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels: 5K0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 K HW: 6R0 959 655 K
Component: VW10AirbagA01 H09 0020
Revision: -------- Serial number: 003GX00NVXJT
Coding: 003031
Shop #: WSC 06401 785 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250_SE25.rod
VCID: 4A9F661B5E7F

Driver's Airbag Crash Sensor:
Serial number: 3495RRB405P0K4DOC92W

Passenger Side Airbag Crash Sensor:
Serial number: 3505RRB40530KSEGEGRA

2 Faults Found:
12854016 - Implausible Data Received from Instrument Panel Control Module
U0423 00 [009] - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 254
Reset counter: 1
Mileage: 184041 km
Date: 2056.14.18
Time: 13:44:55

12656896 - No Communication with ABS Brake Control Module
U0121 00 [009] - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 1
Mileage: 184041 km
Date: 2056.14.18
Time: 13:44:57


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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
Part No SW: 6J0 920 803 H HW: 6J0 920 803 H
Component: KOMBI H02 0504
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 110A00
Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04113
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_SE25.rod
VCID: 2E570A8BC2D7

1 Fault Found:
12656896 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
U1111 00 [009] - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 1
Mileage: 184041 km
Date: 2056.14.18
Time: 17:10:32


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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels: 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
Part No SW: 6N0 909 901 HW: 6R0 937 087
Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H46 0251
Revision: BF046001
Coding: 422000
Shop #: WSC 64564 324 38760
VCID: F0EB54F39863

2 Faults Found:
00470 - Combination comfort Databus in Single Wire
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 4
Reset counter: 41
Mileage: 0 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2120.14.18
Time: 17:49:31

01316 - ABS Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 1
Mileage: 184041 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2120.14.18
Time: 17:11:28


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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5K0 953 234
Component: IMMO H02 0504
Serial number:
Coding: 000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03009
ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_SE25.rod
VCID: EADF469BBEBF

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650) Labels: None
Part No SW: 6J0 035 342 E HW: 6J0 035 342 E
Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H13 0240
Revision: A1001003 Serial number: 7660192814
Coding: 020000
Shop #: WSC 64564 324 38760
VCID: 2647F2ABEA27

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 6Q0-423-156.lbl
Part No: 6R0 423 156 B
Component: LenkhilfeTRW V277
Coding: 10121
Shop #: WSC 06402
VCID: 2F69178FC5DD

1 Fault Found:
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
79-00 - Please Check Fault Codes

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Address 4B: Multifunc. Module Labels: None
Part No: 6J0 959 441 A
Component: MF-Modul 0007 0001
Coding: 0000002
Shop #: WSC 77005 000 00000
VCID: 316D11F7D3E9

1 Fault Found:
00470 - Combination comfort Databus in Single Wire
011 - Open Circuit

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Address 56: Radio (J503) Labels: None
Part No SW: 6J1 035 153 H HW: 6J1 035 153 H
Component: Radio H15 0302
Revision: R0000000 Serial number: SEZAZ2M4066140
Coding: 0001040002
Shop #: WSC 48314 001 1048576
VCID: 2A5F069BFE3F

No fault code found.

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Address 69: Trailer
Cannot be reached

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Address 77: Telephone (J412) Labels: 7P6-035-730.clb
Part No SW: 7P6 035 730 F HW: 7P6 035 730 F
Component: TELEFON H09 2730
Revision: 1B001001 Serial number: 00007660187645
Coding: 0800000001010110
Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVNA A01015
ROD: EV_UHVNA_SE25.rod
VCID: 356525E72781

No fault code found.

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propane94

Bearded Ginger
Nov 15, 2012
406
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Portsmouth
Hi, first things to check are the battery and alternator. If the car is unable to provide the power required, some systems will shut down causing errors.

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i2c

Active Member
Apr 20, 2015
14
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Battery OK (one year ago replaced), alternator also think ok (voltage when engine runnig is higher). Will check today all ground connections on chassis (from one old post with similar problem).

Can anyone tell me where is relays and additional fuses?
And fuse card, maybe scan this page from manuals?
(I have manual in one strange language).
 

propane94

Bearded Ginger
Nov 15, 2012
406
12
Portsmouth
See this thread: http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=387642 for pictures of the fuse layout from the manual. To my knowledge I don't know of other fuses except for the ones below the steering wheel and ones on the battery.

The fact that there are communication issues indicates a poor grounding or electrical short. Check for obvious signs of wear on cables, check grounding points are good and clean, make sure that there is no build up of dirt etc on the battery terminals.

With your engine, a common wear point is under the air box, there is a long bolt which the wire can rub on and short over time, check there as well.
 

i2c

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Apr 20, 2015
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Only ground point find under air filtre box (thanks), there are 3 wire, clean all, also clean all contacts which one I see or find ... nothing change. Not yet. I am verry [:@][:@][:@]

Also clean main ground point from battery to chassis, disabled and check instrument panel and fuse box.

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i2c

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Apr 20, 2015
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Under air filtre I was cut off all 3 wires and make new cable shoes. Solded too.
Measured resistance on ground contact on relay circuit is cca 1-1.8 Ohm.
From past experiences (Fiat and Opel) up than 3 Ohm was critical.
Do you know, maybe is in cabin also ground point like this?
Or anywhere? Just one ground point is not enought.
 

i2c

Active Member
Apr 20, 2015
14
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Solve problem ... yes. Find broken/cutted one cable in factory wiring near ABS control module connector. Need 20 hours to find and located it. Now work.
 

GWVANDUIN68

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Nov 30, 2016
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THX

also found other seat with exact same problem....fuse on the accu with a tiny split in it
and 2nd option the connect for the ABS pump was dirty and didn't make good contact,

have infmd my garage to look close at these 2 points and perhaps my dashboard won't e a christmas tree anymore
 

i2c

Active Member
Apr 20, 2015
14
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Manufacturer make too short hearness - cable wire to ABS pump (control mudule). Not first time; the same problem I have find on my VW T5 for fuel pressure sensor. just one wire is too short and ... report error and eat a lot (or all) of my nerve.
 

i2c

Active Member
Apr 20, 2015
14
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No. Open hearness from ABS unit connector to main unit. I was find it after 30-40 cm. Think - but not sure - it was light brown or yelloy with white stripe. The difference to other cables in the fact that the higher tension and sense is under the fingers it is suspended. Verify one by one, each of them, does not mean that the same or in the same position as in my car.