FR TDI - How Many RPM at 80mph?

SteveC123

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Jul 5, 2009
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As per the title - how many RPM is the Mk4 FR TDI doing in sixth, at an indicated 80mph?

TIA
 

pedro-tdi

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i have 130 tdi sport which does 77mph in 6th at bang on 2000rpm but ive heard the fr had a shorter 5th and 6th gear.
 

Slippery_Stu

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May 23, 2008
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As close to 2500 RPM as matters in a '54 plate FR :)

Was only a short road so was unable to maintain it for long and had to get hard on the brakes, just hope no one was watching me in the work carpark :whistle:
 

SteveC123

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Jul 5, 2009
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Cheers Stu.

Don't suppose you have any idea what it maxes out at 'on an autobahn', in terms of RPM and speed... again in sixth?

TIA
 

Ibiza 130 tdi

Black Magic
Jan 15, 2007
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As said - the FR is shorter gear ratio'd. It revs at 2500 at 80 whereas the Sports rev at just a fraction over 2k.

If I'm right im saying, the car will actually hit it's top speed in 5th gear, it's just 6th is more of a "cruiser gear."
 

stebbi

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Jun 10, 2008
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SteveC123 - i've had over 145 in mine and there was still a bit more pull, Paul said he had it to 150 on the way to the ring (sure he said it showed this on a satnav) Not sure of RPM as i was beginning to cr*p myself
 

BKR

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Grimsby
Cheers Stu.

Don't suppose you have any idea what it maxes out at 'on an autobahn', in terms of RPM and speed... again in sixth?

TIA

well i have been in a hybrid fr tdi on my uncles airstrip and we hit 160mph in 6th and a little bit (just off the clock)

neither me or the person i was in with was paying much attention to the revs but was prettey much on the limiter

if there was enough power and the correct aerodynamics the gear ratios in the older long ratio sport the top speed would be 196mph
 
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Dan1.6

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well i have been in a hybrid fr tdi on my uncles airstrip and we hit 160mph in 6th and a little bit (just off the clock)

neither me or the person i was in with was paying much attention to the revs but was prettey much on the limiter

if there was enough power and the correct aerodynamics the gear ratios in the older long ratio sport the top speed would be 196mph

was that in t. sparks then?
 

SteveC123

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Jul 5, 2009
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SteveC123 - i've had over 145 in mine and there was still a bit more pull, Paul said he had it to 150 on the way to the ring (sure he said it showed this on a satnav) Not sure of RPM as i was beginning to cr*p myself

LOL

What mods has yours had done to it, if any? :)
 

SteveC123

Torquing TDI
Jul 5, 2009
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As said - the FR is shorter gear ratio'd. It revs at 2500 at 80 whereas the Sports rev at just a fraction over 2k.

If I'm right im saying, the car will actually hit it's top speed in 5th gear, it's just 6th is more of a "cruiser gear."

Hmmm... the most I've seen in mine out of it in fifth is 132.

I've seen a bit more out of it in sixth, but not that much... and one of the reasons I'm asking all these questions is because I'm sure mine feels like it's holding back a bit at higher revs in sixth.

So... is it the gearing is just too long for the car to be able to pull through at higher RPM (and I therefore ought to be looking at getting the box out of an FR or Fabia vRS for it if I expect to see any real improvement, and hence the original reason for me asking the question about the FR)... or, given my mods so far are just map, green panel air filter and FMIC, does it need to be made to breathe better in terms of intake and maybe binning the EGR and cat?

I say the latter because it feels to me like it's a bit 'asthmatic', (if that's the right word), when you're trying to max it out in sixth (on a private road, of course!), compared to the mapped Passat TDI I had before this... and a friend suggested the layout of the Passat engine wise would have possibly made for something that breathed a lot better in terms of the exhaust manifold etc.
 

stebbi

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Jun 10, 2008
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Its Tall-Pauls old car, so in short everything that could have been done to it has been (apart from a Dif but i dont feel it needs one atm)

Very Very nice :D
 

Ibiza 130 tdi

Black Magic
Jan 15, 2007
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Hmmm... the most I've seen in mine out of it in fifth is 132.

I've seen a bit more out of it in sixth, but not that much... and one of the reasons I'm asking all these questions is because I'm sure mine feels like it's holding back a bit at higher revs in sixth.

So... is it the gearing is just too long for the car to be able to pull through at higher RPM (and I therefore ought to be looking at getting the box out of an FR or Fabia vRS for it if I expect to see any real improvement, and hence the original reason for me asking the question about the FR)... or, given my mods so far are just map, green panel air filter and FMIC, does it need to be made to breathe better in terms of intake and maybe binning the EGR and cat?

I say the latter because it feels to me like it's a bit 'asthmatic', (if that's the right word), when you're trying to max it out in sixth (on a private road, of course!), compared to the mapped Passat TDI I had before this... and a friend suggested the layout of the Passat engine wise would have possibly made for something that breathed a lot better in terms of the exhaust manifold etc.

Can I ask.....why does it matter? Do you realise what the car is doing at those sort of speeds? If you're running standard air in your tyres, your tyre pressure increases as the tyres get hot. If you tyres blow out at those sort of speeds, there's no hope you for! Doing 130+, your tyres are gonna get quite warm quite quick. Your oil temperature will be pushing over 100 degrees, and therefore turning your oil into treacle if it gets hot enough. The wind resistance on your car at those speeds arent working in your cars favour either, the Ibiza's arent exactly stream lined....

Even if you hybrid your car, the top end isn't going to increase that much, if any. It'll just get there a hell of a lot quicker.

Its Tall-Pauls old car, so in short everything that could have been done to it has been (apart from a Dif but i dont feel it needs one atm)

Very Very nice :D

How is it going? Are you the lad that was with him at GTi international 08? Did you have a Polo before?
 

stebbi

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Yep thats me, still miss my old polo but its nothing compared to the Ibiza.
I remeber talking to you for a bit at inters, you should have seen us this year, we locked the keys in the car so spend most of the show trying to get in without going through a window!
 
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