Type-r vs. Revo'd Cupra

[steve0]

Having a bit of a heated debate with a mate who owns a Type-R on an 04 plate. Mines standard apart from REVO.

What do you guys think?? In a straight line and cornering???

Steve

 

[PhilW]

Close ish. Ibiza i reckon tho.

 

[Spanky]

Basing my opinion on my car vs Type R's and a mates (albeit) APR'd Ibiza Cupra, I would say the Ibiza should have the edge.... not a great deal in it. I would have though the Type R would be slightly better in the twisties, but not if the roads were very bumpy.

 

[Ruddmeister]

Civic type R will have the edge in both departments

 

[flashbsd]

ive never had any problems pulling away from CTR's, they just dont have the torque in mid range gears, e.g. if your doing 70's and plant your foot, by the tiem i blink im doing a ton! 0-100 he will beat you, any mid range gear pulls the ibiza will have it. I dont realise how quick my car is sometimes until you watch thespeedo hopping from 70, 80, 90 in a few seconds.

Corners obviously the civic, and as people will say, around a track blah blah...

 

[Ruddmeister]

Here is a chipped LCR V CTR

(Right click and save as to download but do not stream)
http://zebustype-r.de/video/Cupra210(Chip)-CTR_2.wmv

CTR has the exhaust done I think but nowt else.

I would guess that on the road a chipped Beeza isn't far off the LCR's pace

Not definitive tests but interesting

More to download if your bored
http://zebusvids.de/Video/Cupra210(Chip)-CTR.mpg
http://zebusvids.de/Video/Cupra210(Chip)-CTR.wmv

 

[Molehill_Mike]

I pull on the missus Type R every time, Revo Stage 1, settings 7 n 7

SMIC
TIP
Milltek Cat Back
Induction

Thats with us both driving each car (does that make sense?)

Mike

 

[PhilW]

Mike, you done any logs on those settings?

 

[JimyFloyd]

Cupra all the way. Had a play with a CTR on the roundabout on the A3 going towards london, he didn't pull an inch on me all the way to 13!. So I can imagine a chipped cupra pissing all over it!

 

[Molehill_Mike]

Mike, you done any logs on those settings?

I did with Flash with them on 8 n 8, timing was only 3.2 on one cylinder, not sure on MAF and NM readings...they are on laptop at home...

Did it with Mork once on 9 n 9, pulled mental, spinning up at 80 in 3rd, had bad tires then. He said we could leave it on that settign as timing wasn't an issue, but he didn't feel safe leaving them that high, maybe I just got a good engine....well apart from the small oil leak I have currently. I'm hoping that its because there is too much oil and it is coming up turbo inlet and spraying out....or thats what I have kinda gathered....prob wrong tho lol

Getting Stage 2 today and 4 bar FPR, with the K03s on too, FMIC will be soon, but got RR tomorrow, so I can't wait....

Mike

 

[Molehill_Mike]

Cupra all the way. Had a play with a CTR on the roundabout on the A3 going towards london, he didn't pull an inch on me all the way to 13!. So I can imagine a chipped cupra pissing all over it!

You kept with one NOT remapped?

Not being funny chap are you sure that either

A) He was trying
or
B) Your car isn't remapped

I dont scream away from the Civic, if I was standard she would leave me for dead...156 vs VTEC 196?

Mike

 

[Spanky]

Here is a chipped LCR V CTR

(Right click and save as to download but do not stream)
http://zebustype-r.de/video/Cupra210(Chip)-CTR_2.wmv

CTR has the exhaust done I think but nowt else.

I would guess that on the road a chipped Beeza isn't far off the LCR's pace

Not definitive tests but interesting

More to download if your bored
http://zebusvids.de/Video/Cupra210(Chip)-CTR.mpg
http://zebusvids.de/Video/Cupra210(Chip)-CTR.wmv

Those movies have never seemed right to me, the pace of the chipped LCR in those moves seem like that of a standard LCR.... I could pull away from CTR's like that when mine was standard (at motorway speeds), like these videos.

Edit: Does the file name being Cupra210(Chip) not mean its a chipped Cupra at 210bhp...??? That would explain alot with those video's......

 

[Smee]

it doesnt even look like an lcr to me... seems to be sitting to high

Smee

 

[flashbsd]

i keep yup with a revo;d LCR just as an extra point. 280bhpish LCR

 

[acidstrato]

havent had many 'race' experiences in mine (dunno why) but i have had a couple run ins with a fella in a ctr who drives it like he stole it (prob did) but i can confidently pull away from it quite effortlessly...god bless a turbo

 

[NeilW]

The missus has a CTR "Nighthawk". I can reel her in with my LCR but overtaking is difficult until silly speeds. Especially now she's learnt to keep the CTR in the powerband of 6-8K revs. Must admit I'm not a fan (apart from of the noise sometimes) but the Recaro seats and gearchange are spot on. Much prefer the torque of the 1.8T though...

 

[Spanky]

Reading these posts, those videos above must be a chipped Cupra.....

 

[Simon L]

I had a play with a CTR on the motorway from 70-140.

I pulled away initially, but he was slowly catching me up, and by the time we got to 140 he was just about to draw level. At a snails pace though, not passing me quickly.

 

[Sisson]

my mates got a black civic type-r and we've had races twice now, first time i had the edge up to 120 but second time he just crept passed at 110, nothing in it really

 

[bazza1000]

There's next to no difference in the two cars. My mate - Underzcupra who used to own a silver apr'd cupra now has a civic type r. Speed wise they are identical, ibiza has more torgue but the type R just keeps revving and revving! Top end the type R would definately win, as that is where they excel. The civics handle like a dream as well.

I prefer the torque of the Ibiza though lol. Both are very nice cars.