Updating the inbuilt Mib3 Satnav Offline

[Tell]

I saw your post. People have updated on here but not via that engineering menu. Have you tried pushing the usb in after the menu is up. On the back end mib2 high I push the card in after the menu is up ?. A thought.

A video on the mib3 engineering menu that I found:

 

[Tell]

That portal link tallies with the one direct link which I've posted up now. Will add the VW one when that appears.

 

[Tell]

@Tell, I've just tried the above procedure, BUT it did NOT work for me: MIB 3 SW:1941. I've been able to access the Engineering Menu (been there done that before), but both USB slots(USB1 and USB2) are gray out. I'm using an 64GB USB-C stick formatted as ext-FAT.

I'm wondering whether your issue falls into the Skoda one with specific firmware:

Mib3 map update

Hi Has anyone managed to manually update an Mib3 system yet, I have a 2020 year UK Kodiaq but the update does not seem to work yet. I thought I read there was a software update to allow manual map updates but does not look like it has happened. I have not subscribed to the Skoda connect services ...

www.briskoda.net

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After about 18mths from new, the navigation on my MIB3 system went a little screwy. I reported the problem to my dealer who advised a software update was available. This updated had to be done at the dealer. It was done under warranty and takes 5-6 hrs to complete. ( a day and a half in my case as it didn;t update correctly 1st time round ). When I received my car post dealer update, I followed the exact same procedure as I'd done previous - downloaded the latest map update onto USB from the Skoda portal, As others have said there was no indication about how the update was progressing or when it completed, but all I did was plug in the memory stick, left it in there for a few days, and after a few hundred miles, checked the software version and noticed it had now updated - exactly the same process as I use on my 2019 MIB2 system just that it's now on a USB stick rather than a memory card.

So the answer is.... If you can't manually update via the Skoda portal on an MIB3 system, contact your dealer and ask them if the system software needs updating. Skoda know about this problem.
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So basically if after leaving it for days and till doesn't update and the presentation to the system is fine it could be the firmware needs updating. Whether this one applies to Seat pass. The offline USB update only runs apparently when the engine is on but the car is stationary. Maybe that process circumvented with that engineering screen if you can get it to work.

 

[Tell]

Since two of you are having issues with the Skoda mib3 file ECE2024 I'm going to remove the link from post 1. We await the VW file. They are the gold standard. Seat sometimes have files on their servers that VW don't due to markets.

 

[djmartzian]

Hello @Tell,

After a trip of ~ 50mins(with the USB-type C stick inserted in one of the front USB port), the updates have been successfully "downloaded" and installed to the MIB3 unit. Now, the version displayed is 23.6

Appreciate your support on this community.

 

[ruidebraga]

Hello @Tell,

After a trip of ~ 50mins(with the USB-type C stick inserted in one of the front USB port), the updates have been successfully "downloaded" and installed to the MIB3 unit. Now, the version displayed is 23.6

Appreciate your support on this community.

Hi there.
So Skoda has the newest files?


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[Tell]

Probably a matter of days for the VW one. The Skoda one is:

https://infotainment-cdn.skoda-auto.com/base/maps/OI_P107_EU_202345_Offline_Update.zip

 

[djmartzian]

Probably a matter of days for the VW one. The Skoda one is:

https://infotainment-cdn.skoda-auto.com/base/maps/OI_P107_EU_202345_Offline_Update.zip

I've also "developed" a quick command that will help us in the future, maybe that can be integrated with other automated scripts to query the DBs and maybe to post a message on this thread. @Tell, is this possible?

VIN=TMBAJ7NX5MY023717 && curl -s -L https://updateportal.skoda-auto.com/en-GB/Updates/${VIN} | grep -Ei "https://infotainment-cdn.skoda-auto.com/base/maps" | grep -Eo "https://[^ >']+"

The result is the link ^^.

 

[Tell]

What people do is to probe the range of possible links using a script so they find the file ready to have a web page wrapped around it. It's those links that get published by users ahead of the release or just reading the web page as you click OK etc. I leave it up to others with the automated approach or wait till it's published via the web page. Having a Skoda VIN is useful to check what the official release is for Skoda where they are hidden behind a VIN.

 

[Tell]

I've now added the November 2023 (ECE 2024) VW links which have become available thanks again to MartiniB digging them out. Of note the areas covered by the RoW Mib3 are much wider than Mib2 high RoW similar to Mib2 Standard as only one main infotainment system has gone forward.

 

[ruidebraga]

I've now added the November 2023 (ECE 2024) VW links which have become available thanks again to MartiniB digging them out. Of note the areas covered by the RoW Mib3 are much wider than Mib2 high RoW similar to Mib2 Standard as only one main infotainment system has gone forward.

Hi there, thanks!
The skoda and VW files are the same? 23.6 both?

 

[Tell]

They are traditionally suppose to be unless one of the brands makes a mistake and posts rubbish which Skoda just did on their mib2 high offering. On mib3 it's conceivable that they might pull a different month. Mib2 high maps were generated quarterly but published twice a year, June and November. The online ones are generated monthly so the twice a year offline ones you'd expect to be pulled correctly but you never know. VW one's are probably likely to be more sound. A company generates these from the Here Maps material least if it's like mib2 high. Sub contracted out.

As far as the YY.MM I've yet to see a way of reading that from the files without loading them. It will be in hex scrambled form.

 

[M4ppy]

Any idea if any of these updates contain uk speed cameras?, have just picked up a new ateca vzn and would like to have this option

thanks

 

[Tell]

Think we can say it doesn't. Mib2 high doesn't have built in ones. The cartography is Here Maps but whilst they have an attribute for speed camera it doesn't get filled in much. The cameras themselves can be fixed and mobile. It's the mobile ones that get crowdsourced in the likes of Pocket GPS World.

There is a catch with mib3 unlike previous mibs you can't import your own POIs (user POIs) only the built-in ones so whilst speed camera databases could be imported into Mib2 it's not possible with Mib3 unless they have implemented elements of HereWeGo which is their Android app.

https://www.herewego.info/en/here-wego/installation-and-setup/settings/

Leave it up to someone with Mib3 to plunge about in the menus. Basically the weakness with these camera warning systems based on fixed camera they don't pick the mobile ones by definition. Crowdsourced one do. The database in Pocket GPS World basically mark up risk areas where they have been spotted in the past. Those in online systems where someone taps it in bit hit-and-miss.

I'm sure if you have TSR in it, you can set up the beeps if you exceed the speed limit read from the map or from the lane assist camera. That's a much better way of doing it unless you plan to speed illegally between speed cameras where it would warn you each time you exceeded the speed, but you wouldn't know where the camera is. TSR in the Ateca I find works very well. The new 20mph signs in Wales have been a bit liberally applies so it picks up the side roads, but other than that it works well.

I personally find TSR is better at keeping you within current speed limits than speed camera. They are a nice touch but hit-and-miss. If you are planning on breaking the law using a speed camera database on fixed cameras or wobbly reports, missing one isn't a good idea.

 

[fstok]

Think we can say it doesn't. Mib2 high doesn't have built in ones. The cartography is Here Maps but whilst they have an attribute for speed camera it doesn't get filled in much. The cameras themselves can be fixed and mobile. It's the mobile ones that get crowdsourced in the likes of Pocket GPS World.

There is a catch with mib3 unlike previous mibs you can't import your own POIs (user POIs) only the built-in ones so whilst speed camera databases could be imported into Mib2 it's not possible with Mib3 unless they have implemented elements of HereWeGo which is their Android app.

https://www.herewego.info/en/here-wego/installation-and-setup/settings/

Leave it up to someone with Mib3 to plunge about in the menus. Basically the weakness with these camera warning systems based on fixed camera they don't pick the mobile ones by definition. Crowdsourced one do. The database in Pocket GPS World basically mark up risk areas where they have been spotted in the past. Those in online systems where someone taps it in bit hit-and-miss.

I'm sure if you have TSR in it, you can set up the beeps if you exceed the speed limit read from the map or from the lane assist camera. That's a much better way of doing it unless you plan to speed illegally between speed cameras where it would warn you each time you exceeded the speed, but you wouldn't know where the camera is. TSR in the Ateca I find works very well. The new 20mph signs in Wales have been a bit liberally applies so it picks up the side roads, but other than that it works well.

I personally find TSR is better at keeping you within current speed limits than speed camera. They are a nice touch but hit-and-miss. If you are planning on breaking the law using a speed camera database on fixed cameras or wobbly reports, missing one isn't a good idea.

As alternative I can recommend to use Flitsmeister to be used over Android Auto or Apple Carplay. See: https://www.flitsmeister.com. It provides notifications about both fixed and mobile speed cameras. Iit also provides information about average speedchecks, which they do in the Netherlands. I.e. measuring average speed over a large road segment. Flitsmeister indicates start and stop of the segment and displays the actual average speed over the distance travelled in that segment. Additionally the Flitsmeister app provides other warnings like blocked roadlanes, obstacles on the road (car, road work, etc.), and it can even warn for approaching police, fire and ambulance cars approaching with siren. Unfortunately I see that in England these features are very limited, but for other countries this is all or to a larger part available.

 

[Tell]

As alternative I can recommend to use Flitsmeister to be used over Android Auto or Apple Carplay. See: https://www.flitsmeister.com. It provides notifications about both fixed and mobile speed cameras. Iit also provides information about average speedchecks, which they do in the Netherlands. I.e. measuring average speed over a large road segment. Flitsmeister indicates start and stop of the segment and displays the actual average speed over the distance travelled in that segment. Additionally the Flitsmeister app provides other warnings like blocked roadlanes, obstacles on the road (car, road work, etc.), and it can even warn for approaching police, fire and ambulance cars approaching with siren. Unfortunately I see that in England these features are very limited, but for other countries this is all or to a larger part available.

The online traffic should tell you about road works and land closures with the mib3 online contract just leaves speeding that you shouldn't be doing. VAG went off speed camera alerts sometime ago based on POIs although you can upload them into mib2, not mib3. TSR has many benefits since it reads the variable speed alerts but ofcource if linked to ACC you get braking if there is an incorrect read of a sign. Horses for courses. I don't use ACC just use my feat and listen for the warning beeps via TSR .

 

[fstok]

The online traffic should tell you about road works and land closures with the mib3 online contract just leaves speeding that you shouldn't be doing. VAG went off speed camera alerts sometime ago based on POIs although you can upload them into mib2, not mib3. TSR has many benefits since it reads the variable speed alerts but ofcource if linked to ACC you get braking if there is an incorrect read of a sign. Horses for courses. I don't use ACC just use my feat and listen for the warning beeps via TSR .

I checked your remark about online traffic: in my manual it is mentioned that it is only available in certain market, and on the CUPRA NL-site it is mentioned that it is only available for the CUPRA Born. That is a real pity that it isn't available for me. So for these functions I am dependant on Android Auto apps like Sygic, Google Maps and Flitsmeister.

 

[Tell]

I checked your remark about online traffic: in my manual it is mentioned that it is only available in certain market, and on the CUPRA NL-site it is mentioned that it is only available for the CUPRA Born. That is a real pity that it isn't available for me. So for these functions I am dependant on Android Auto apps like Sygic, Google Maps and Flitsmeister.

I believe from the downloaded Seat app you enter your ID and the central Vag services will tell you what services you are granted for connect services on your vehicle against the free / subscription period. That's the definitive way of doing it. Re-subscription is done that way as I understand so if they want you to pay for specific services it can only be done from the app. Connect services are bundled differently across Vag. I'd have a look at that and see what it's showing.