Cambelt Advice

[pops1368]

Hi,

I some input/advice regarding a cambelt change. I have a 2009 Seat Ibiza 1.6 Sport (petrol) which has done approximately 24,500 since new. Last week I received a reminder that my cambelt change was due and having spoken to the Seat dealer's Service Dept, I went ahead and booked my car in to have the necessary work done. I have today received a call from the dealers now saying my car does not need the cambelt doing. I queried that last week I was advised I do need the work doing, as it's done every 60k miles or four years whichever comes first (with me it was four years). I'm happy that I'm saving £252 (not including a water pump change) but worried that this is something essential and should be done??

Any help would be most appreciated.


Thanks

 

[NetworkMan]

I'm not with you. If your car was bought in 2009 then surely the cambelt should be replaced in 2013 i.e after 4 years.

Look in your service book. This should tell you when it should be changed. It is almost always after x miles or y years whichever comes first but the book should give you the exact figures.

 

[pops1368]

Thanks for that.

When I spoke to the Service Dept last week, they actually confirmed it was either 60,000 miles or every four years, whichever comes first. With that in mind my car IS four years old so I assume the belt needs doing. But the call I received today from the same Service Dept today, confirmed I do not need the work carried out.

Very wierd??

 

[DEAN0]

But the call I received today from the same Service Dept today, confirmed I do not need the work carried out.

I would ask for that in writing

 

[pops1368]

Cheers Deano,

I just find the whole thing wierd. Never been too happy with the dealer's service.

I've just sent an email to the Director and we'll see what he says.

 

[ALAN H]

In my opinion the water pump should be changed as the old one can fail at any time after a new [tighter] cam belt is fitted.Its up to uou if you want to take a chance but I know what I would do.

 

[pops1368]

Update,

I've just had confirmation from the Director of the dealers, advising that as I have an engine with a timing chain and not a timing belt I will never need the belt changing.

 

[ALAN H]

LOL.Bonus there then.ha

Bear in mind though that even the chains can be subject to excessive rattling thence needing changing along with the guide carrier pulley.

 

[NetworkMan]

Make sure you have that in writing. My understanding was that the 1.6 16 v was belt driven and the 1.6 FSi chain driven. AFAIK SEAT never used the FSi in the Ibiza.

The 1.4 16v is certainly belt driven.

Surely someone on here can confirm?

 

[pops1368]

Thanks for all your input guys, it's all bloody confusing. Well I have it in writing from the Director and so if anything does happen, I certainly WILL take the appropriate action. Here's part of his email:

I have just spoken to the people concerned in service and was advised that your car has the later engine and has a timing chain and not the timing belt and so you will never need the cam-belt servicing.

 

[yozza1987]

I had the 1.4 16v engine . Code cggb in a 2012 prefacelift. I can say 100% it is belt driven, 2 belts tbh, one for crank, water pump and inlet cam and a secondary one for inlet to exhaust cam

No doubt the 1.6 16v would be the same as i cannot see a reason for vw changing the cam belt to chain if they were planning to discontinue/replace it with the 1.2 tsi

Best bet is to take the cover off and have a look

 

[user187]

Hi,

I some input/advice regarding a cambelt change. I have a 2009 Seat Ibiza 1.6 Sport (petrol) which has done approximately 24,500 since new. Last week I received a reminder that my cambelt change was due and having spoken to the Seat dealer's Service Dept, I went ahead and booked my car in to have the necessary work done. I have today received a call from the dealers now saying my car does not need the cambelt doing. I queried that last week I was advised I do need the work doing, as it's done every 60k miles or four years whichever comes first (with me it was four years). I'm happy that I'm saving £252 (not including a water pump change) but worried that this is something essential and should be done??

Any help would be most appreciated.


Thanks

I have the same model and year as you and im due for an MOT and service in jan and have been contemplating going for a major service and cam belt change, but had my suspicions on it being chain driven.

Other than physically checking or phoning the dealer's, I'm wondering if there is anything online, a database or such like where we can find out for sure

 

[ALAN H]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...petrol_engines

 

[NetworkMan]

The Wikepedia article says that the 1.6 16V has DOHC but doesn't say how it's driven.
Don't trust what you read there anyway. It says the 1.2 TSI CBZB has a hot-film air mass meter but it doesn't have a mass flow meter at all. It uses air pressure, air temperature and engine speed etc. to determine mass flow!

 

[MJ]

fairly certain the 1.6 engine used in the mk5 is chain driven.

The 1.4 16v n/a is belt driven.

 

[pops1368]

Well I wanted to be certain, so I wrote to Seat UK directl, providing them with the details of my car and they have come back with:

Thank you for your response. I have checked on our internal system and I can confirm that your vehicle has a timing chain. The timing chain does not have any change intervals.

 

[ALAN H]

Safe to say then that unless a rattle starts at the engine end it should be fine.

 

[pops1368]

I have what I want in black and white, both from the dealer and Seat themselves, so if anything happens and the information provided is incorrect and wrecks my engine, then someone will be paying for any necessary repairs and it won't be me.

 

[ALAN H]

Yes all good but I would still keep an ear out for any unusual noises and rattles but it shouldn't be an issue yet for you.

 

[user187]

well that's saved me 200 plus notes....cheers!!!