CAR Magazine Article

[Chris B]

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Secret...rns-up-the-heat-on-new-Ibiza/?content-block=0

 

[Ami-Jane]

disappointing if the cupra launch is 2009 and only packing 180 bhp

hope they're wrong!

 

[m0rk]

much more than 180bhp would make it an uninsurable, uneconomic purchase for what is in effect still - a shopping trolley.

 

[westoncraig]

i think its time they did something special with the ibiza....we get the k1 leon..why not a limited hot ibiza?! it makes sense!

 

[Saul]

k1 leon is 'just' a cupra though

 

[Poverty]

much more than 180bhp would make it an uninsurable, uneconomic purchase for what is in effect still - a shopping trolley.

Thats what the FR is though. New ibiza should have 200hp to not get overshadowed by the competition, some of whom will be offering up to 230hp in the ibizas size category, and because the leon cupra has 240hp, and the ibiza traditionally has around 40hp less.

 

[westoncraig]

lets just hope we get some kind of crazed rally slag f2 type look special edition..that will stir a few people up

 

[westoncraig]

k1 leon is 'just' a cupra though

valid point!

 

[m0rk]

Thats what the FR is though. New ibiza should have 200hp to not get overshadowed by the competition, some of whom will be offering up to 230hp in the ibizas size category, and because the leon cupra has 240hp, and the ibiza traditionally has around 40hp less.

FR Diesel is 130bhp, FR 1.8T is 150bhp

my maths is good enough to let me know that neither are 180bhp

regardless of 'history' - people won't afford to run a 200bhp hot hatch very soon

 

[Poverty]

FR Diesel is 130bhp, FR 1.8T is 150bhp

my maths is good enough to let me know that neither are 180bhp

regardless of 'history' - people won't afford to run a 200bhp hot hatch very soon

If people cant afford a 200hp hothatch they can simply buy the lesser versions though.

What im saying is that the next FR will have about 170 hp and the diesel will be 140hp. Its natural progression things will once again move on.More power, cleaner emissions and better MPG. Plus all the competitors hothatches are now 200hp and above so I would hardly think SEAT with the backing of VAG would be one to all of a sudden shy away from making a 200hp ibiza cupra, especially seeing as they will have planned the car long before the fuel crisis hit.

 

[chris285]

If people cant afford a 200hp hothatch they can simply buy the lesser versions though.

What im saying is that the next FR will have about 170 hp and the diesel will be 140hp. Its natural progression things will once again move on.More power, cleaner emissions and better MPG. Plus all the competitors hothatches are now 200hp and above so I would hardly think SEAT with the backing of VAG would be one to all of a sudden shy away from making a 200hp ibiza cupra, especially seeing as they will have planned the car long before the fuel crisis hit.

i hope for 200bhp and i am likely to buy the petrol cupra when its out

 

[Poverty]

i hope for 200bhp and i am likely to buy the petrol cupra when its out

that will make 2 of us then. Here is to hoping its the 2.0T and not a further jumped up 1.4.

All current VAG trends point to the 2.0T though but then the ibiza cupra could be a first. If seat do mess it up I'll just buy a scirrocco or quattro TT, or a Audi A1.

 

[chris285]

that will make 2 of us then. Here is to hoping its the 2.0T and not a further jumped up 1.4.

All current VAG trends point to the 2.0T though but then the ibiza cupra could be a first. If seat do mess it up I'll just buy a scirrocco or quattro TT, or a Audi A1.

tbh i haven't thought what i would do if its not a great car, it points that the car is very good but it needs a good engine from what i have read

may get a mk4 cupra or something if not

 

[Mr Cellotape]

If they don't give the car a 200BHP derv then I will be buying elsewhere.

Most probably Scirocco (spell?)

All they have to do is drop the 2.0 TDI in, change the turbo, larger intercooler, different map and they can see 200BHP and leave plenty of space for us to remap to larger amounts

 

[westoncraig]

but thats alot more cost! they might use the derv lump out of the leon fr...170 diesel would be great in my eyes, its tuneable and will work for the masses!

 

[Poverty]

If they don't give the car a 200BHP derv then I will be buying elsewhere.

Most probably Scirocco (spell?)

All they have to do is drop the 2.0 TDI in, change the turbo, larger intercooler, different map and they can see 200BHP and leave plenty of space for us to remap to larger amounts

a 209hp diesel engine in a car that weighs 1100kg wont happen. 170 hp at the most. Start saving for the scirocco.

 

[Ami-Jane]

If people cant afford a 200hp hothatch they can simply buy the lesser versions though.

What im saying is that the next FR will have about 170 hp and the diesel will be 140hp. Its natural progression things will once again move on.More power, cleaner emissions and better MPG. Plus all the competitors hothatches are now 200hp and above so I would hardly think SEAT with the backing of VAG would be one to all of a sudden shy away from making a 200hp ibiza cupra, especially seeing as they will have planned the car long before the fuel crisis hit.

agree with that - some people no matter how much this stupid government want to charge in fuel or road tax will still find a way to have the real petrol head in them buy the cupra for the power

if people don't want to then they will buy the FR or sport version - the market is too competitive for seat not to provide 200bhp - if they don't then i think many people will go elsewhere - no point the car looking great (if based on the concept) if it doesn't move!