Dealer Problems

panholio

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Jun 26, 2006
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Dealer Problems HELP!!!!

Ok guys I'm after some advice as to where I stand. It's a long story so I'll apologise in advance for the long post.

I bought my 03 210 LCR through a SEAT dealer in June. The car was just out of manufacturer's warranty but as part of the approved SEAT scheme came with 12months warranty. The car was on just about 43k miles when I collected it.

After having the car for a couple of days I gave it the first wash and noticed that the passenger side door had been resprayed at some point, and badly. I had a mate look at it with a paint thickness meter and it had somehwere up to 2cm of filler in it ( :blink: ) and had clearly been in an accident of some sort. I got straight on the blower to the dealer and they had a look at it and declared it was a used car and it could well have been in an accident before! I thought this sort of thing may have been checked but hey. They agreed to pay half the cost of getting it resprayed to a better standard so I got it done. Cost me £200 (it had to have the rear quarter done as well).

It took a lot of fighting to get this out of them so I was reasonably happy.

In the meantime I noticed the cars high speed fans were coming on all the time and read on here it was a common fault and likely the fan unit would need replacing. Took it in to see them and they were like yeah book it in, it'll probably just be a fuse. I disputed but the car went in the following week (12.99 cost for a courtesy car). I get a phonecall that day saying it needs a new fan unit sir (really :clap: ), be a week before we can get one, book it in for next Monday. I did so, car went in again (another 12.99 courtesy car), I get a phonecall about lunchtime; "we are gonna have to keep it for another day, the radiator is leaking". "oh I said, that's strange you only looked at it last week - you haven't damaged it have you Mr Dealer?!?!", anyway bit the bullet, another day goes by (add 12.99) and I collect the car. Get in it and the engine management light is on, take it straight back and that gets fixed. All seems ok and it was covered under the warranty.

About a week goes by, I pull into a car park and my engine management light comes on. Balls, what's this I think! Take it back in the following morning ( a Saturday) and I get awful service. I'm told to wait and whilst I am doing so other people seem to come in (with considerably more expensive cars - this dealer does other makes) and get immediate service! A coolant taemperature sensor is eventually replaced (after 4 hours) and I missed a good mate of mine's wedding.

Door is resprayed in the meantime, good job can't fault that really but I now get a problem with my temperature gauge light flashing when starting the car cold. Take it back in yesterday and mentioned a knocking I have going over bumps. I'm told yesterday that that the car needs 2 new rear shocks, new bottom ball joints and a wheel bearing. Only the bearing is covered under my warranty and the cost for the rest is £420 plus VAT. I was told the ball joints were "bordering on dangerous" so I have had them done today. I intend to speak with the manager of the dealership tomorrow. I've also been told the rear pads need replacing. No word about the temp light (and another £25 in courtesy cars)

Where do you think I stand? I have covered about 4k since buying the car, should these problems have been picked up when the car was MOT'd and serviced/safety checked/x number of point check for the used car scheme?

I paid over the odds for the car for the piece of mind that I was getting a good one with the cover of a main dealerhip. Totally dismayed now, SEAT UK says I need to resolve it with the dealer as they are a franchise.

Anyone got any suggestions as to my best course of action or should I just bend over, take it like a man and pay up?
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TimBarratt

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Oct 6, 2004
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No i would complain like hell. Write a letter to both Seat UK and the dealership, saying exactly what has happened. Also list all of your cost. Make it clear how upset you are about the whole thing. List the dates you have been to see the dealer as well.

It might also be worth getting advice from trading standards or citizens advice as your warranty doesn't seem to cover very much.

It might even be worth naming and shaming them on here.
 

si-mate

Jai Ho or Jay Ho?
May 31, 2004
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I can see that the rear pads might not be covered under warranty, they are a wearing part and for all they know you might have been doing a lot of hand brake turns.
Shocks are also a wearing part but shouldn't wear out after only ~45k miles.

Temperature light light flashing is a common fault on LCR's and should be the coolant header tank which is only about £15 to replace. Would normally be replaced under the manufacturers warranty.
Could you not ask to see a copy of their used car inspection checklist?

I think even though some of the issues might not be covered by the warranty a good dealer would fix them as a goodwill gesture as with service like this your unlikely to buy another Seat and certainly not from that dealer.
 

sri_130

Stupid is, as stupid does
Mate, gutted for you, not a good advert for JCT, who've been reasonably ok with my tank.

Saw your car there today. Is it totally sorted now?

IMO: Trading standards, but only after letter to the dealership copied to Seat UK (signed for postage) to give them a chance to respond and/or resolve.
Suggest on your letter a 1-to-1 with the manager to get all points across and state a reply date expected within 14 days.
Monkeys on the service desk will say anything, go for the gaffer(s) to get answers. and if you don't get them, take it further (after the 14 day period).

Good points to get from the place:
- What did the warranty cover (or what does it still cover)
- Used car checklist, whats on it? why weren't issues noted?
- Previous history on their database of the vehicle, service history etc?

Documentation is the key when trying to resolve anything like this, like Tim said, list dates, costs, receipts, problems incurred to you, unacceptable service, names of people etc etc etc.

Keep me posted, I hate being screwed around!!!
 

panholio

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Jun 26, 2006
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Leeds
All sorted and done for free........ well I paid for a balljoint but that was it.

Had to take it as far as the manager though.



sri_130 that's my car yep!