New lease --> Ceramic Coating. Where? Who? What?

[PHILMEWAGON]

hey!

searched this up but most of the topics are older so made this.

Im planning ahead, not picking the car up for a while yet, but having seen the damage driving around the UK has done to my current mk3 in 2 years I want good protection right from the word go when I pick up my lease. Im desperate to completely disappoint them when they are looking for damage at pick up time

I literally want to grab the motor and drive to the ceramic coating applicators. Most places seem to offer a machine buff as part of the price but I cant see a brand new car needing it?

So, anyone had it done? What was the price like? Recommend a fitter?

any knowledge you can share would be much appreciated, thanks!

Phil

 

[Daire92]

With regards to needing a polish on a new car, you'd be amazed how poor the finish of a new cars paint can be. I've had a ceramic coating (opti coat pro) applied to my old white Leon FR after it was 1 month old and my new Cupra is going in for the same treatment next week. Both cars get a 2 day paint correction before the coating is applied. To do the job right a proper paint correction should be done beforehand as there is no point in sealing in a poor finish.
The lad who did mine in Dublin, Spirit Detailing, said the standard of VAG paint from the factory is fairly poor. Hes one of the top lads in the country here and I trust his experience. The FR was absolutely gleaming upon pickup and the paintwork looked a millions times better, all the swirls and dull spots were gone and the sealant made it a dream to keep clean. If you really want a good finish I'd recommend some bit of professional polishing before the coating is applied. Mine was €450 for the 2 day restoration and coating.

 

[GTunney]

Always been tempted for a ceramic coating but just never been able to justify the money without hearing any first hand stories on its reliability.

I noticed your in Boro bit of a hike but look at DDB Detailing in Newcastle. I’ve always used them for my big jobs / my show golf and theyre fantastic. If I did get a coating done it would be these guys who I’d go to. He gets cars delivered straight from the show room and I know the likes of Audi Newcastle use him all the time.

 

[Curtly]

Is the cost of the coating going too save you money in comparison to any stone chips that the lease company fines? I.e. will you recoup the initial outlay?
I'm confused why else you'd want this on a lease car

 

[Daire92]

Is the cost of the coating going too save you money in comparison to any stone chips that the lease company fines? I.e. will you recoup the initial outlay?
I'm confused why else you'd want this on a lease car

I'd agree with this point alright. On a lease car it's kinda pointless unless you are the kind of person who loves their car to be spotlessly clean always and you think the 2 years will be worth it. It won't do anything to protect from scratches, stone chips or any other damage that a lease oysterwould charge you for. Its purely aesthetic.

 

[Lmbarrett83]

I'd agree with this point alright. On a lease car it's kinda pointless unless you are the kind of person who loves their car to be spotlessly clean always and you think the 2 years will be worth it. It won't do anything to protect from scratches, stone chips or any other damage that a lease oysterwould charge you for. Its purely aesthetic.

I agree.

In 2015 I picked up a 280 on lease and was advised to go for the guardx paint protection.
I had it applied to both the exterior and interior.

Since it was applied to my car I've have been back to the dealership throughout the lease to have the wax reapplied.

Although its easy to clean and the paint can be made to shine with minimum effort it hasn't done much to protect against stone chips or scratches.
Not sure how much better the ceramic coating would be.

I think a clear wrap (if done properly) would add more protection. I'm going for this once the 300 eventually arrives.



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[PHILMEWAGON]

I agree.

In 2015 I picked up a 280 on lease and was advised to go for the guardx paint protection.
I had it applied to both the exterior and interior.

Since it was applied to my car I've have been back to the dealership throughout the lease to have the wax reapplied.

Although its easy to clean and the paint can be made to shine with minimum effort it hasn't done much to protect against stone chips or scratches.
Not sure how much better the ceramic coating would be.

I think a clear wrap (if done properly) would add more protection. I'm going for this once the 300 eventually arrives.



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some fair points above, given me something to think about.

would just say that a ceramic coat must offer some protection above a standard wax? 9H is pretty tough stuff?
if it costs 500 quid for the job then its costing me about 5 quid a week for the life of the lease.

I did also look at a clear wrap, but the cost to get it fitted properly (then potentially removed before pick up), puts it at 2 to 3 times the cost of a ceramic coat.

Will definitely take more advice before i do anything

 

[Lmbarrett83]

some fair points above, given me something to think about.

would just say that a ceramic coat must offer some protection above a standard wax? 9H is pretty tough stuff?
if it costs 500 quid for the job then its costing me about 5 quid a week for the life of the lease.

I did also look at a clear wrap, but the cost to get it fitted properly (then potentially removed before pick up), puts it at 2 to 3 times the cost of a ceramic coat.

Will definitely take more advice before i do anything

Yeah it will offer better protection than wax.
The gardx I have uses some sort of nanotechnology to bind to the paint as well.

As it's an extra layer it will offer some help against swirls, scratches and chips, but don't expect miracles.
Especially If you consider the speed/impact at which the stones can make contact with the car

The link below should give you a better explanation of what to expect from ceramic coating

http://exclusivedetail.com/ceramic-coatings/


Highlights....

A Ceramic Coating is not a substitute for Paint Protection Film, which provides a more comprehensive for of defensive. Rather, it is a premium wax alternative. A Ceramic Coating creates a permanent or semi-permanent bond with a vehicle’s paint, meaning that it does not wash away or break down and does not require repeated application every few months.

WHAT DOES A CERAMIC COATING NOT DO?

The scratch-resistance of a Ceramic Coating is often exaggerated. Though some small scratches can be repelled by a Ceramic Coating (as we described above), a coated vehicle will not be completely resistant to the risk of rock chips or parking lot scratches. Furthermore, improper car washing techniques or automated car washes will still create swirl marks on your vehicle’s surface. It is important to know that a Ceramic Coating is not a substitute for more serious scratch or chip protection (such as Paint Protection Film, also known as Clear Bra), nor does it eliminate the need to wash your car in a proper manner in order to avoid swirl marks.


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[PHILMEWAGON]

Yeah it will offer better protection than wax.
The gardx I have uses some sort of nanotechnology to bind to the paint as well.

As it's an extra layer it will offer some help against swirls, scratches and chips, but don't expect miracles.
Especially If you consider the speed/impact at which the stones can make contact with the car

The link below should give you a better explanation of what to expect from ceramic coating

http://exclusivedetail.com/ceramic-coatings/


Highlights....

A Ceramic Coating is not a substitute for Paint Protection Film, which provides a more comprehensive for of defensive. Rather, it is a premium wax alternative. A Ceramic Coating creates a permanent or semi-permanent bond with a vehicle’s paint, meaning that it does not wash away or break down and does not require repeated application every few months.

WHAT DOES A CERAMIC COATING NOT DO?

The scratch-resistance of a Ceramic Coating is often exaggerated. Though some small scratches can be repelled by a Ceramic Coating (as we described above), a coated vehicle will not be completely resistant to the risk of rock chips or parking lot scratches. Furthermore, improper car washing techniques or automated car washes will still create swirl marks on your vehicle’s surface. It is important to know that a Ceramic Coating is not a substitute for more serious scratch or chip protection (such as Paint Protection Film, also known as Clear Bra), nor does it eliminate the need to wash your car in a proper manner in order to avoid swirl marks.


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Excellent info thx

 

[andystephenson]

If you're looking for detailers near boro, I highly recommend devilish detailing in Darlington. They do a lot of cars straight from the dealers. Message him on their Facebook group, he's usually happy to chat about options.

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[SiR26]

I’ve self applied Gyeon MOHs after polishing and it offers great gloss. I’ve had it about a year and is easier to wash , only needs topping up with an easy to apply sealant (Gyeon Cure) every month or so and beads water better than most waxes. It doesn’t make dust stick to it like a wax and does offer some swirl resistance but it’s not 100% protective as you’re led to believe. I’ve noticed some swirls are now getting into the car again after a year but not as many and I shouldn’t let the garages wash my car.