Revo or Van Aaken?

Revo Kev

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Wondering why this is in the VAG COM diagnostics section?!

We're a VAG specialist and spend a lot of time supporting customers on forums like this one...

I'm sure Van Aaken do some good stuff.

What car do you have?

Could someone move this to a relevant section! ;)
 

Mik3y boy

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Oh dear!

Revo Kev said:
Wondering why this is in the VAG COM diagnostics section?!

We're a VAG specialist and spend a lot of time supporting customers on forums like this one...

I'm sure Van Aaken do some good stuff.

What car do you have?

Could someone move this to a relevant section! ;)


Sorry i'm new on here, i have a New Leon 2.0 140bhp TDI Sport
 

Mik3y boy

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Do you think its a good investment then? Its not like a superchip is it? :doh:
 

Mik3y boy

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Superchip remaps the ECU to increase fuel,torque etc... maybe damage the engine in later life? im not sure, i thought the Revo box "thingy" works a different way?
 

Sisson

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revo also remap your ecu, but comes with a "box thingy" so you can turn it on/off,

personally id go with a true VAG specialist
 

maxcars1

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I've had two diesel cars 'tweaked' by VA in the past, but these were mechanical adjustments. They are highly regarded on the diesel front, however, I'm not sure how they've developed as a company over the past 10yrs regarding ECU mapping. Personally, I'd look towards Revo, or maybe consider the other companies on SCN.
 

Mik3y boy

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lol Sisson maybe i should look into it more! I thought that all VW's engines e.g 1.9 TDI's 105bhp 130bhp 150bhp were all the same just been restricted different, then you buy the Revo box and it takes the "restricter" off sort of thing? :shrug:
 

oi_nutter2000

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Mik3y boy said:
Superchip remaps the ECU to increase fuel,torque etc... maybe damage the engine in later life? im not sure, i thought the Revo box "thingy" works a different way?


Superchips software runs on exactly the same principles as revo - i've used it and find it to be excellant
 

BeezerDiesel

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Mik3y: Are you talking about a VanAaken tuning box? I would do some reading up on Diesel tuning first, then think about spending your money.
If you search you will find masses of info on Revo, so I won't bother adding more. VanAaken have been around for a very long time and for the last few years have made quite a name for themselves doing Diesel tuning as they were one of the first to get involved in it. They specialise in turbo tuning and like Revo have a good name.
Both respectable companies, do some research on here, then go toss a coin.....
 

Ruddmeister

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Mik3y boy said:
Superchip remaps the ECU to increase fuel,torque etc... maybe damage the engine in later life? im not sure, i thought the Revo box "thingy" works a different way?

Superchips tends to be a physical chip, open the ecu and insert new chip etc

Revo uses the diagnostics port on the car to upload their software, the software is written to a blank area of the existing chip.

Opening the ECU breaks the seal and can't be reversed, revo can be switched off.

You can leave the car in it's 'remapped' state with just the Revo uploaded or buy an SPS box which will turn the map on and off (handy for servicing) has an immobiliser function etc etc etc

I had superchips on a petrol Golf 1.8T and versus Revo on the same engine they were chalk and cheese....Revo was far better
 

oi_nutter2000

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Ruddmeister said:
Superchips tends to be a physical chip, open the ecu and insert new chip etc

Revo uses the diagnostics port on the car to upload their software, the software is written to a blank area of the existing chip.

Opening the ECU breaks the seal and can't be reversed, revo can be switched off.

You can leave the car in it's 'remapped' state with just the Revo uploaded or buy an SPS box which will turn the map on and off (handy for servicing) has an immobiliser function etc etc etc

I had superchips on a petrol Golf 1.8T and versus Revo on the same engine they were chalk and cheese....Revo was far better

No it doesn't - superchips only do serial port tuning these days, the chalk and cheese comment is also wrong - superchips give a lot more torque. Totally ballistic delivery. I've used both and that's just my opinion
 

Ant FR

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REVO, Unfortunatey Van aaken were very good back in the day, but technology has overtaken them. I had a van aaken smart tuning box on my old Gt TDi 130 golf but REVO on the ibiza is in a different league.
 

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oi_nutter2000 said:
No it doesn't - superchips only do serial port tuning these days, the chalk and cheese comment is also wrong - superchips give a lot more torque. Totally ballistic delivery. I've used both and that's just my opinion

they dont "just" do serial port tuning, and last i heard from superchips is that 180bhp is "the safest the ibiza can be taken to without blowing the turbo" :blink:
 

oi_nutter2000

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Saul said:
they dont "just" do serial port tuning, and last i heard from superchips is that 180bhp is "the safest the ibiza can be taken to without blowing the turbo" :blink:

That's just plain daft. I know of several people who have had 180s superchipped, with no such statements. I've got some pretty good contacts who work for a company called lorven performance who are also a superchips distributer. I've spent a lot of time there with various different cars over the years and know the guys quite well. I'm told by them that superchips has moved away from physical chipping along with the rest of the industry, and i've not known them to do anything but serial port jobs for the last few years.

Basically I'm a bit sick of ignorant people slating everything apart from revo, jabba and apr (and surprise surprise this site is heavily affiliated with all of those companies). I think the principles of revos switching technology are very good, and i'm very keen to have my next xar jabba'd. I just don't see why i'm always seeing superchips portrayed as some Wile E Coyotee company (strap the acme rocket around the acme tree) that they clearly are not.
 

cpufreak

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oi_nutter2000 said:
That's just plain daft. I know of several people who have had 180s superchipped, with no such statements. I've got some pretty good contacts who work for a company called lorven performance who are also a superchips distributer. I've spent a lot of time there with various different cars over the years and know the guys quite well. I'm told by them that superchips has moved away from physical chipping along with the rest of the industry, and i've not known them to do anything but serial port jobs for the last few years.

Basically I'm a bit sick of ignorant people slating everything apart from revo, jabba and apr (and surprise surprise this site is heavily affiliated with all of those companies). I think the principles of revos switching technology are very good, and i'm very keen to have my next xar jabba'd. I just don't see why i'm always seeing superchips portrayed as some Wile E Coyotee company (strap the acme rocket around the acme tree) that they clearly are not.

I don't know what you're getting in a state about.

Superchips cater for most models of cars, and they usually seem to try to be first to market with their products.

Other tuning companies, who specialise in a specific manufacturer, and who spend more time developing the code for a particular engine will get better results.
I've a friend who works at superchips hq, and he agrees with me on this...its inevitable...

Superchips cater to the mass market, and they get 95% of the performance that other tuners get, which is plenty for most people, and by them not worrying about the extra 5% or so, enables them to get products launched much more quickly.

My own experiences tally up to this. :)

Therefore, someone who has a genuine interest in their car (and by virtue of them being on a forum talking about it, they do), is probably better off going to a well known specialist, as they will appreciate the extra 5% or so, or the additional features, like the ability to turn it on and off :)
 
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