stealers !!!!!!!

[kieran_cupra]

Hi all , my strut brace is old and chipped so i ordered a new one staurday from my local seat dealer in Derby. I specifically said for a mk3 ibiza cupra!. Got there today after a 4 day wait to get it home to find it was for a mk4!!!

Not happy , so i rang them , the guy on parts told me that seat only stock one item of strut bracing for an ibiza. I then said i had a 2001 mk 3 cupra and he said thats why.

HE said " at seat we dont class youe mk3 as a mk3 as its just a facelift mk2 so thats why its wrong as we at seat class the 02+ as the mk3" what a load of ****

Had to tell him that last time i went another sales guy commemented on my "nice mk3 ibiza" and asked where i bought it as they dont get many in.

He then swiftly moved on to say Oh well we can get you one in tomorow on exchange.


Ive never heard of this before as everywhere lists it as a mk3!!!!!

DEALERS!!!!

 

[flashbsd]

why didnt you just paint it? ill have your old one

p.s dealers are silly! once mine told me mine had the pedal box gone, was infact a 23p clutch pedal clip, idiots!

 

[Ibiza Cupra]

Wot a load of tosh!!!!!! Obviously some1 just trying to bullsh*t out of a corner he has got himself stuck in!!!!!

 

[kieran_cupra]

for £47 , by the time ive bought all the paint , pirmer, wet n dry etc may aswell just buy new

Useless bunch

 

[widdowd]

I have to say that the dealer is actually right... Here's a bit of history..

Mk. 1 (1985-1993)
The Mk. 1 was based on the Fiat 127/Ritmo/Regata, and used a powertrain which had been developed in collaboration with Porsche. This was the first SEAT which did not share any external body panels with any Fiat model, having been designed by Giorgetto Giugiaro. This version, while it established the now classic Ibiza shape, was advertised as having 'Italian styling and German engines'. In terms of size, it was larger than most Ford Fiesta and Austin/MG Metro sized cars, but smaller than most cars in the Ford Escort and Volkswagen Golf sector. Styling was fairly imaginative and interior space was good, but the Ibiza was let down by suspect build quality, heavy steering and doubtful reliability.

In 1999 the design was bought by Chinese car firm Nanjing and was redeveloped into the Nanjing Yuejin Eagle and 2004 Soyat.


Mk. 2 (6K & 6K GP01) (1993-2002)
The Mk. 2(6K) was the first Ibiza to be produced under Volkswagen Group management and used the underpinnings of the Mk. 3 VW Polo 6KV (actually, the underpinnings of the VW Golf III). It suffered a little from brand identity issues on release. Originally seen as cheap VW, the launch of the Cupra models and rallying success gave it a much stronger sporty image, which aligned with VW's acquisition of Škoda as a budget brand.

The Ibiza's 1.0 L, 1.4 L, 1.6 L, 1.8 L petrol and 1.9 L Diesel (turbo or non turbo) engines would also be used in the next generation Polo. The Ibiza's running gear was also used in the SEAT Cordoba saloon, estate and coupe.

Under Volkswagen's ownership, Seat was marketed as a sporty and youthful brand whose cars were sold at competitive prices. The original Ibiza's problems with bad build quality and unreliability were rectified, as the Ibiza proved itself to be one of the best built and most reliable small cars in Europe.

The Ibiza was also produced in South Africa as the VW Polo Playa and also in Argentina.

In the autumn of 1999 the Ibiza (6K GP01) received a facelift which saw its exterior styling updated and the interior completely restyled. Even though it was approaching its seven year of production, the Ibiza's looks were kept fresh by this impressive makeover.

By the time production of the second generation Ibiza/Córdoba ceased during 2002, the range had established itself as one of the most popular small cars in Europe of the past decade.


Mk. 3 (6L)(2002-present)
The 2002 Ibiza 6L (or Mk.3 Ibiza, or Mk.4 Ibiza in UK) is the second model to be produced under VW management and is a much more focused car. Build on the Polo 9N platform. Strongly built around a sporty, performance image and designed by Italian Walter de'Silva, the model line up contains a selection of hot hatch variants, topping out with the FR and Cupra amongst the rest of a strong product line. The performance end of the range is helped by the lack of fast Polo variants, especially the cancelling of the Polo GTI. The much improved, aggressive styling has boosted this model ahead of the family-friendly styling of the Polo in the hot hatch market. It is also the largest Ibiza to date, with room for five adults, and a spacious, if rather short, boot. The standard trim level on this model is noticeably higher than previous models.

This is regarded by some magazines to be the best supermini, with What Car? calling it their best supermini for three years in a row.

The 2006 model made slight aesthetical changes to the body both on interior and exterior, but keeping it very similar to the 2002 original model. SEAT launched a new advertising campaign to follow the new model with the slogan "The rituals are different, the spirit is the same". It depicts 4 individuals each on a different colored SEAT Ibiza, performing different activities inside their car before actually starting it. The campaign sends a message that all people are different, but inside we all have a "sporty spirit".

 

[PhilW]

I just supply them with the part numbers now, if i get the wrong parts its normally my own fault.

 

[C3 LJG]

I was told by the dealer that there wasn't a mk3 in the past, and they always want my chassis number.

But now i am on first name terms with the parts guy just tell him what i want and normally get a call before 8.30 next morning saying its in!

 

[Ibiza Cupra]

I was told by the dealer that there wasn't a mk3 in the past, and they always want my chassis number.

But now i am on first name terms with the parts guy just tell him what i want and normally get a call before 8.30 next morning saying its in!

Same here, my mum has an arosa, dad has a cordoba and the bloke at gatwick is well alright!!!! Needed my chassis number first tho!!!

 

[MR Ibiza Cupra]

when i orderd my strut from Seat, the lady at the parts desk did the same thing... She orderd a strut for the later model. But she then orderd the correct one - and i didnt get any hassle. One thing she did say was ''hmmm i wonderd why when i orderd your strut brace why there were 2 different part numbers'' I said to myself.... well they are 2 different models so in order to identify each part you need different numbers oh well.....

 

[Ibiza Cupra]

I have to say that the dealer is actually right... Here's a bit of history..

Mk. 1 (1985-1993)
The Mk. 1 was based on the Fiat 127/Ritmo/Regata, and used a powertrain which had been developed in collaboration with Porsche. This was the first SEAT which did not share any external body panels with any Fiat model, having been designed by Giorgetto Giugiaro. This version, while it established the now classic Ibiza shape, was advertised as having 'Italian styling and German engines'. In terms of size, it was larger than most Ford Fiesta and Austin/MG Metro sized cars, but smaller than most cars in the Ford Escort and Volkswagen Golf sector. Styling was fairly imaginative and interior space was good, but the Ibiza was let down by suspect build quality, heavy steering and doubtful reliability.

In 1999 the design was bought by Chinese car firm Nanjing and was redeveloped into the Nanjing Yuejin Eagle and 2004 Soyat.


Mk. 2 (6K & 6K GP01) (1993-2002)
The Mk. 2(6K) was the first Ibiza to be produced under Volkswagen Group management and used the underpinnings of the Mk. 3 VW Polo 6KV (actually, the underpinnings of the VW Golf III). It suffered a little from brand identity issues on release. Originally seen as cheap VW, the launch of the Cupra models and rallying success gave it a much stronger sporty image, which aligned with VW's acquisition of Škoda as a budget brand.

The Ibiza's 1.0 L, 1.4 L, 1.6 L, 1.8 L petrol and 1.9 L Diesel (turbo or non turbo) engines would also be used in the next generation Polo. The Ibiza's running gear was also used in the SEAT Cordoba saloon, estate and coupe.

Under Volkswagen's ownership, Seat was marketed as a sporty and youthful brand whose cars were sold at competitive prices. The original Ibiza's problems with bad build quality and unreliability were rectified, as the Ibiza proved itself to be one of the best built and most reliable small cars in Europe.

The Ibiza was also produced in South Africa as the VW Polo Playa and also in Argentina.

In the autumn of 1999 the Ibiza (6K GP01) received a facelift which saw its exterior styling updated and the interior completely restyled. Even though it was approaching its seven year of production, the Ibiza's looks were kept fresh by this impressive makeover.

By the time production of the second generation Ibiza/Córdoba ceased during 2002, the range had established itself as one of the most popular small cars in Europe of the past decade.


Mk. 3 (6L)(2002-present)
The 2002 Ibiza 6L (or Mk.3 Ibiza, or Mk.4 Ibiza in UK) is the second model to be produced under VW management and is a much more focused car. Build on the Polo 9N platform. Strongly built around a sporty, performance image and designed by Italian Walter de'Silva, the model line up contains a selection of hot hatch variants, topping out with the FR and Cupra amongst the rest of a strong product line. The performance end of the range is helped by the lack of fast Polo variants, especially the cancelling of the Polo GTI. The much improved, aggressive styling has boosted this model ahead of the family-friendly styling of the Polo in the hot hatch market. It is also the largest Ibiza to date, with room for five adults, and a spacious, if rather short, boot. The standard trim level on this model is noticeably higher than previous models.

This is regarded by some magazines to be the best supermini, with What Car? calling it their best supermini for three years in a row.

The 2006 model made slight aesthetical changes to the body both on interior and exterior, but keeping it very similar to the 2002 original model. SEAT launched a new advertising campaign to follow the new model with the slogan "The rituals are different, the spirit is the same". It depicts 4 individuals each on a different colored SEAT Ibiza, performing different activities inside their car before actually starting it. The campaign sends a message that all people are different, but inside we all have a "sporty spirit".

I was looking at a mk2 and it's so obvious the mk3 is a facelift. so i can quite belive this.

 

[SpareMan]

Technically since the 93-99 and 99-02 ibizas have the same model code (6K) then the later is a facelift of the earlier. However it is a major facelift, facelifts are usually new bumpers, a change to the lights, wheels and some interior trim for example. Remember there was a more conventional facelift for the Ibiza in 97-98.

The difference before and after 1999 is significant, the engines changed for example, and most aftermarket accessories are not interchangeable (such as the brace). The two cars do not even look that similar.

The convention is 93-99 are Mk 1, 99-02 are Mk 3 and 03 onwards are Mk 4. When ordering parts at least let the dealer have a reg number, ideally a chassis number if possible. That way there should be no ambiguity