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brainless toe
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Suppose this depends on what you consider to be quick?
Keeps up with my brothers VR6 4motion, Civic Type R's Old and New - (FR slightly quicker in 4th than the Civics)
Quick or Not??
cambobfr
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Yeah, I have to agree... actually it kicks butt in 4th 
(I assume that's the diesel Civics?)
The only thing that gets me is that whereas she'll outstrip most other 'normal' cars on the road (TDi 110's etc), it's not by that much. It's certainly not as much as I was expecting.
(I assume that's the diesel Civics?)The only thing that gets me is that whereas she'll outstrip most other 'normal' cars on the road (TDi 110's etc), it's not by that much. It's certainly not as much as I was expecting.
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190-200bhp petrols? When my PD150 was chipped it was similar to 180 1.8T's.
Also my neighbours PD130 Ibiza isn't far off mine.
DERV Civics are 140 from a 2.2.
Guess mine is broken. Wonder if the older ones are actually 170bhp and no more like recent figures. It's similar performance to other dervs with similar power out there.
Also my neighbours PD130 Ibiza isn't far off mine.
DERV Civics are 140 from a 2.2.
Guess mine is broken. Wonder if the older ones are actually 170bhp and no more like recent figures. It's similar performance to other dervs with similar power out there.
brainless toe
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Yeah, I have to agree... actually it kicks butt in 4th
The only thing that gets me is that whereas she'll outstrip most other 'normal' cars on the road (TDi 110's etc), it's not by that much. It's certainly not as much as I was expecting.
No mean Civic Typr R's old and new! 140pd are left for dead! 4th gear it absolutly kills them. Feel also must point out my Fr is 100% standard...
How many miles on your car? Mine has 29k, engine loosend at 10k, then I'd say 20k too.
At 10k & 20k both performance and mpg improves!
cambobfr
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The new Type R's is available in diesel form now. The older ones I believe were petrol only.
She's only done just over 9000 miles. Oh right, that's good news about the performance and mpg - I look forward to it. I think in the mean time tho' I'm going to have to go with a remap. Now just have to find a remap specialist in the Cambridge area. I might start another thread on that tho' 'cos I've not had much luck with searching the forum.
She's only done just over 9000 miles. Oh right, that's good news about the performance and mpg - I look forward to it. I think in the mean time tho' I'm going to have to go with a remap. Now just have to find a remap specialist in the Cambridge area. I might start another thread on that tho' 'cos I've not had much luck with searching the forum.
I'm not convinced. Mine has 20k and I've not noticed any performance or MPG gain.
I had a play with an old 525d the other day and it got passed that ok but that has similar power and more weight. Don't fancy my chances against 200bhp petrols. My Revo'd PD150 wasn't far off my 225TT but you need to take into count the transmission loss.
You can get the Civic Type S in a 2.2 140bhp derv but not the R.
I had a play with an old 525d the other day and it got passed that ok but that has similar power and more weight. Don't fancy my chances against 200bhp petrols. My Revo'd PD150 wasn't far off my 225TT but you need to take into count the transmission loss.
You can get the Civic Type S in a 2.2 140bhp derv but not the R.
cambobfr
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There is a Civic Type R diesel due out at some point, not sure when though.
http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle.aspx?AR=228721
brainless toe
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No, definately had a few old Type R's (ive had them go for it, then when they realise your still there they pull over and slow down, should see look on face when they see its a diesel
. Oh and had 1 new one, against both the Type R's in 4th I had just a slight edge. Also Clio 192, BMW330i, BMW530d and a Fiat Coupe 20v Turbo - he just had slight edge on me. (been busy!) Oh and keeps up with my brothers VR6 4 motion (rolling start). He's gutted a diesel is as quick as his (only 50k on his clock - its mint).
Always drove the car hard from day one, they say this can make a quicker car? but also run it 90% on Ultimate diesel and that makes a difference.
Dont forget Revo reported 191 bhp in their 170pd passat, and then there's that huge amount of torque!
. Oh and had 1 new one, against both the Type R's in 4th I had just a slight edge. Also Clio 192, BMW330i, BMW530d and a Fiat Coupe 20v Turbo - he just had slight edge on me. (been busy!) Oh and keeps up with my brothers VR6 4 motion (rolling start). He's gutted a diesel is as quick as his (only 50k on his clock - its mint).Always drove the car hard from day one, they say this can make a quicker car? but also run it 90% on Ultimate diesel and that makes a difference.
Dont forget Revo reported 191 bhp in their 170pd passat, and then there's that huge amount of torque!
jason.dando
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Just had my DPF light come on.
6 months old LEON FR 21000 miles covering all sorts of driving, from a trip to the shops up to 450 motorway miles in one day. Some times i pootle around London and other times i tend to give it large on a clear road.
Also the car felt slightly spluttery when cruising along at about 50mph in 4th, for the 50 miles prior to the warning light coming on.
Will speak to the dealer ASAP and report back my findings.
6 months old LEON FR 21000 miles covering all sorts of driving, from a trip to the shops up to 450 motorway miles in one day. Some times i pootle around London and other times i tend to give it large on a clear road.
Also the car felt slightly spluttery when cruising along at about 50mph in 4th, for the 50 miles prior to the warning light coming on.
Will speak to the dealer ASAP and report back my findings.
jason.dando
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The DPF light came on today for the first time on my
6 months old LEON FR 21000 miles covering all sorts of driving, from a trip to the shops up to 450 motorway miles in one day. Some times i pootle around London and other times i tend to give it large on a clear road.
Also the car felt slightly spluttery when cruising along at about 50mph in 4th, for the 50 miles prior to the warning light coming on.
Will speak to the dealer ASAP and report back my findings.
6 months old LEON FR 21000 miles covering all sorts of driving, from a trip to the shops up to 450 motorway miles in one day. Some times i pootle around London and other times i tend to give it large on a clear road.
Also the car felt slightly spluttery when cruising along at about 50mph in 4th, for the 50 miles prior to the warning light coming on.
Will speak to the dealer ASAP and report back my findings.
jason.dando
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DPF light cleared with about 1 mile of hard driving in 2nd and 3rd gear.
have done 200 miles since and so far all is ok.
have done 200 miles since and so far all is ok.
I have a question for everyone.
If you have ever seen your DPF light, have you ever put cheaper fuel in it - i.e. Tesco City Diesel or whatever it's called, or from Asda?
If you haven't ever seen your DPF light... same question?
If anyone answers this post, please state whether or not you have put something that's not BP/Shell/Esso/Etc's - I know some people say that Tesco/Asda fuel is exactly the same as what you'd get from Shell/BP... but then other people say it's different and has more ethanol and lemonade in it
Would love to hear from people who've driven their car pretty hard (as it's meant to be driven) but have seen the light/regularly and it's not been fixed by a dealer.
I've only ever put shell/esso/bp stuff in min (couple of tanks of bp ultimate diesel in to see if it makes any difference - can't say I felt it, might have had a few more miles out of the tank than usual, but can't really justify the extra it costs) And I've never seen the Light in 15,000 miles *touch wood it doesn't show up on the way home again tonight*.
I'm just wondering if the quality of fuel you put in (assuming there's a significant difference between let's call them "Premium fuels" and "Supermarket crap") has any bearing on whether or not you're likely to get DPF issues/problems.
If you have ever seen your DPF light, have you ever put cheaper fuel in it - i.e. Tesco City Diesel or whatever it's called, or from Asda?
If you haven't ever seen your DPF light... same question?
If anyone answers this post, please state whether or not you have put something that's not BP/Shell/Esso/Etc's - I know some people say that Tesco/Asda fuel is exactly the same as what you'd get from Shell/BP... but then other people say it's different and has more ethanol and lemonade in it
Would love to hear from people who've driven their car pretty hard (as it's meant to be driven) but have seen the light/regularly and it's not been fixed by a dealer.
I've only ever put shell/esso/bp stuff in min (couple of tanks of bp ultimate diesel in to see if it makes any difference - can't say I felt it, might have had a few more miles out of the tank than usual, but can't really justify the extra it costs) And I've never seen the Light in 15,000 miles *touch wood it doesn't show up on the way home again tonight*.
I'm just wondering if the quality of fuel you put in (assuming there's a significant difference between let's call them "Premium fuels" and "Supermarket crap") has any bearing on whether or not you're likely to get DPF issues/problems.
I have a 56 plate Fr 170 pd, do quite high mileage, got the car in October 2006, and I am almost due the 30k service.
Average around 100-150 miles when out on the road, drive the car relatively hard (ave mpg since last reset approx 2.5k through winter months 39 to gallon) although recently in warm weather seen some 42-43. Tend to run the car 90% of the time on BP Ultimate, although last month or so gone back to standard diesel. Ultimate does make a difference to smoothness and acceleration...It is a quick car!
I have seen the DPF light about 5 times and doesn't seem to be a real pattern to when it comes on. Light always cleared no problem, as voted.
However, I do often get a rocking sensation when stationary at lights, also recently experienced similar rocking in 4th gear at 40mph. Performance can vary, sometimes the car feels really quick, yet other times just feels mild.
Spoke to one dealer (where bought car from) and sales man said, when you get the rocking just rev the engine up quite high, but this has no effect. Another dealer said that the new 07 models are a big improvement on the DPF.
Stop using the Ultimate Diesel, was thinking maybe the DPF didn't know how to deal with this grade of fuel. Car is slightly better but not cured.
Anyway recently saw the threads on hear for the new Cupra K1, and as a result of my experiences with the DPF decided I should change. Car arriving Mid March
Think if the DPF was spot on then I would have kept the car and got it Revo'd.
Previously owed an Altea 2.0tdi Sport 140pd and never experienced any of the above.
My Verdict : Really love the car, but truly believe its the DPF technology for VAG is not quite right yet, and think could potentially put a lot of people off from going diesel. I was truly converted but now find myself moving back to the other side.
Anybody else experienced the rocking sensation either stationary or in gear?
Jeez if you drive that hard and do that many miles your gonna need to plan your route via every service station possible in a Cupra. If you get -40mpg in a loosened up TDI FR then cant see you getting more than low 20s can you?
brainless toe
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Your right!, but cant continue to drive around the way I have in the Fr diesel, gonna get busted. At 40mpg i can afford to drive like that all day and I do, so the plan is buy a faster car to slow me down. Honestly wont be able to afford mpg of around low 20's so gunna have to drive the car steady thus slowing me down and preserving the licence.
Had the car superchipped through Seat (294 bhp!) every where I read about chips or remaps suggest improved mpg on motorway (as long as you stay steady) around 3 - 7 mpg some people say?? I dont know? will be interested to hear views or experiences on this topic.
Got a new friend that has an Ariel Atom and he and his mates are into their tracks days, so the plan is to keep the madness reserved for days like that. Its gonna be hard but been practicing for the last month in the Fr and you soon get used to doing the speed lmit and found you dont really get anywhere much quicker driving like a loonely tune.
Planning a visit to Santa pod on 19th April - to be confimed yet as not too sure how many miles i'll have on car by then as I am only collecting it 2moz (26th March). Caint wait - but yeah nervous about the mpg.
Got a mate thats got an A8 3.0 V6 and he recons if he cruised at 75-80 hill get 34mpg. So that's roughly my target add that to the cheaper price of petrol - heres hoping?
cambobfr
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My mpg has just suddenly improved. During 2.5hrs of driving today, the mpg went from it's usual 37.5 (which it's been for the past 3500 miles), up to nearly 46mpg! It just had it's 10k service on Thursday and today was it's first decent run out of town since then, so I wonder if it was something to do with the service.
Am still rather disappointed with the performance. I was hard pressed to overtake a Focus Zetec of some kind on my way out to Luton the other day. We were climbing a seriously steep hill as well which is where I would've expected to have a torque advantage. I can only guess he was a remapped 140 tdci.
Am getting a remap tomorrow tho' so hopefully I will forget woes like this!
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