PD130 and PD150 Pancake pipe

[UncleFester]

PD130 and PD150 Leon Pancake pipe.

Does ANYONE know if these things are the same at either end? I don't care what goes on between them just that the entry and exit are in the same place.

 

[glynnd]

Thought the 130 leon did not have a fmic
Glynn

 

[UncleFester]

Thought the 130 leon did not have a fmic
Glynn

It doesn't and that's the problem, i am sure the entry point of the pancake is the same, it's the outlet that's in a different place - ahh well, back to chopping a 1.8T pancake mid section into the ends of a PD150 pancake.

 

[paddeh]

this is a pain in my backside too.

I want to improve that whole section from the turbo to the IC inlet.

SFS are almost there with the outlet, and the IC inlet is already in production, just need to sort the pancake now, ideally avoiding the poorly clip system.

If the connection at the turbo uses an alloy connector, and it also clamped, then at the other end of this pipe, its clamped (jubileed) onto a modified pancake, with the same on the out side, then with the alloy fitting and clamp onto IC in, that should be strong enough.

Thats what Im hoping to achieve, if you understand lol

edit - what materials are the PD150 / 1.8T pancakes? my PD150 looks like some sort of alloy, but from what photos Ive seen of the 1.8T version, it looks like it could be stainless?

 

[UncleFester]

I will let you know how i get on with this poxy welding job - like you i've got my name down for the turbo to pancake pipe

 

[paddeh]

Thing is, if possible, I would aim to get rid of the nasty clip system that holds the connections at either end of the pancake.

The less of these there are, the better in my opinion.

 

[UncleFester]

Thing is, if possible, I would aim to get rid of the nasty clip system that holds the connections at either end of the pancake.

The less of these there are, the better in my opinion.

In which case the other 'option' I have is to get some steel connectors made up and have them welded to the ends of the pancake - time to speak to Probee i think

 

[paddeh]

I rekon this is the going to be the ultimate solution.

Increased airflow, and reliability.

Along with the SFS pipes, and the uprated clamps in 3 positions (turbo out, IC in & out) the whole run from turbo to inlet, would be much improved.

 

[UncleFester]

Will update this when i get a solution sorted

 

[probee]

i need to let the dust settle after the last few weeks ive had..... they've been doing so many homers for me, we are weeks behind with the bits that make us money

speak to me in a few weeks buddy

 

[UncleFester]

i need to let the dust settle after the last few weeks ive had..... they've been doing so many homers for me, we are weeks behind with the bits that make us money

speak to me in a few weeks buddy

No need now, a solution has been found / agreed but i can't say more until it's all done and dusted - rest assured it won't be long before everyone else can have one

 

[probee]

i have an idea what you are chatting about.... top work

 

[paddeh]

I have a new boost leak, on the SFS pipe between the pancake and the IC - its split.

But that whole section from turbo to IC is just rubbish, those connections are useless.

Im tearing my hair out, spent so much time and money on the hybrid conversion, its just plauged with bad boost pipework.

I dont know what to do next tbh

grrrr.

 

[Tom.]

Try speaking to Forge. Was down there a while ago and they were showing us there replacement for the pancake pipe which is included in the Golf PD130 FMIC kit.

Pretty sure it will be very similar to the leon if not identical, and nowere near as restrictive as the original plastic one.

 

[paddeh]

Ive checked out the forge replacement, that comes with the PD130 FMIC kit - the pipe would not work without extensive modification to fit the standard FMIC on the PD150 engines cars.

This is because the Forge Intercooler sits much further forwards, and the piece of alloy tubing is much too long for the PD150 application.

Check it out for yourselves here - I think to make this pipe fit is going to be just as much work as modifying a 1.8 20vT pancake pipe...

Also Im not too sure about just jubilee clipping a coupler onto the OEM male alloy end fitting on the turbo outlet hose

 

[slick]

I thnk SFS is going to do something with that pipe I heard in the grape vine?

 

[paddeh]

Ive not got time for all that, my pancake pipe and the connecting pipe to the IC are both knackered and need replacing asap - sfs wont even answer my emails, so sod em

 

[UncleFester]

Ive not got time for all that, my pancake pipe and the connecting pipe to the IC are both knackered and need replacing asap - sfs wont even answer my emails, so sod em

I won't have anything positive to add to this until mid to late march at the earliest.

 

[slick]

Ive not got time for all that, my pancake pipe and the connecting pipe to the IC are both knackered and need replacing asap - sfs wont even answer my emails, so sod em

Well if i was in your shoes, i would replace the parts with standard units for now, and use the old broken ones to be fabricated up at a alloy engineering firm, or failing that await for SFS etc to release there version

 

[paddeh]

oh ofc dont worry, Im well into getting the problem sorted - Ive got a 1.8 20vT pancake that hopefully will be modified to fit - removing all the "clip connections" in favour of stretching the pipes over and clamping them.