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guys time for a reality check here , if you have owned a mk2 Leon then you know what you are letting yourself in for , but if you havent £27k for a leon?????? its a good £18-20k car but im sorry but there are way better cars out there , the R needed to come along 2 years ago and cheaper ,
At the end of the day its your money but i would listen to Leon owners before making the move , Audi TT or Golf variants are way better , if i spent 27k on a car and was sat in traffic staring at the tacky interior i would cry.
i hope you enjoy it but if it was me i would always be thinking what else could i have got???
also dont forget the standard cupra will be just as quick in the same tune as an R so dont think about showing them up lol
i think everytime i see an R i will be thinking should have bought a cupra !
At the end of the day its your money but i would listen to Leon owners before making the move , Audi TT or Golf variants are way better , if i spent 27k on a car and was sat in traffic staring at the tacky interior i would cry.
i hope you enjoy it but if it was me i would always be thinking what else could i have got???
also dont forget the standard cupra will be just as quick in the same tune as an R so dont think about showing them up lol
i think everytime i see an R i will be thinking should have bought a cupra !
+1 i agree
im amazed how little effort theyve gone to especially with the body work, cupra r looks just like a cupra just with a bigger price tag. the mk1s cupra/cupra r look different to each other why not on the mk2s. id go for the Focus RS, has had alot more effort put into it for similar money.
adampotter
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I agree mate, I don't think the Leon is worth £27k, but as stated earlier, I won't be paying VAT on the car, so it will end up costing less than than a standard Cupra spec'd to the same level with VAT.
I've just gone onto VW website and spec'd a Golf R to the same level as I've done on the Cupra R, here are the results:
Cupra R: £27,000
Without VAT: £23,000
Golf R: £38,000
Without VAT: £32,300
I appreciate that VW are a superior brand and build quality is better, but ELEVEN THOUSAND pounds difference??? Even without VAT it's still nine thousand! I think even the most hardcore Golf fan might struggle to justify that much of a difference!
You lucky man, what an opportunity.
Have to say that whilst the S3 is dull, with dealer discounts you could get a car with a great interior, recaro bucket seats, and enormously good damp/wet weather performance and probably better residuals.
Today I'd take a Cupra over the current S3, but the Cupra R is so pricey the S3 looks good value for money.
However there won't be many about so it will be unique.
adampotter
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I must say I too struggle to see any justification for the premium. I take your point about the comparison with the golf, however I don't see that the R is £3250 more of a car than the cupra.
As for colour, I'd say orange as well. White is now getting a bit predictable (he says in his third white car).
As for colour, I'd say orange as well. White is now getting a bit predictable (he says in his third white car).
adampotter
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I've been thinking about this more and more over the last few hours, and actually with my head rather than heart now, and am also struggling to justify the extra £3000+.
I'm now thinking of going for a standard Cupra then upgrading with either a Revo or JE Design kit.
Just want to say a massive thanks to everyone that's input into this thread, especially the ones who advised against the LCR *Queue posts of "I told you so!"*
As much as I'd still love one (and am extremely jealous of those of you getting one) I just cant justify it now that I've priced the Cupra without VAT for SeanCorky (having previously not wanted to for fear of changing my mind!!).
Anyway, thanks again for the input!
Plus point of chosing the Cupra over LCR - black alloys
The thing is, as far as I can see from the list of parts on both engines, all the R has over the Cupra which is of any significance is the intercooler.
If you go down the road of tuning them, an exhaust and remap on both will see similar figures, especially if you add the £300 intercooler the R has (camshafts, valves, injectors, fuel pump, turbo etc all the same on both). Then the only difference is that the R has an uprated gearbox (not that the Cupra box is at all weak), different suspension to cope with the bigger heavier wheels of the same design that are not available in black on the R.
And, if you are really vain, you could add the R diffuser and make your Milltek the twin exit version and paint the end of the roof spoiler black. It still wont be an R though, even if it looks like one as the neat interior finishes will still be different, but performance wise, there would be little to separate them.
As mentioned before, the fact none of the pre FL Cupra lads are rushing to buy one speaks volumes.
If you go down the road of tuning them, an exhaust and remap on both will see similar figures, especially if you add the £300 intercooler the R has (camshafts, valves, injectors, fuel pump, turbo etc all the same on both). Then the only difference is that the R has an uprated gearbox (not that the Cupra box is at all weak), different suspension to cope with the bigger heavier wheels of the same design that are not available in black on the R.
And, if you are really vain, you could add the R diffuser and make your Milltek the twin exit version and paint the end of the roof spoiler black
. It still wont be an R though, even if it looks like one as the neat interior finishes will still be different, but performance wise, there would be little to separate them.As mentioned before, the fact none of the pre FL Cupra lads are rushing to buy one speaks volumes.
At the pre-VAT price-point I think it's most of the car for a much better price. Easier decision with the FL dashboard as I really didn't like the last dashboard concept, the new one has helped no end to life the interior.
I think when people buy an Audi they expect more customer service that you would from SEAT or VW. As (at least of the M4 corridor) that doesn't exist, it makes me wonder at times why I bothered paying a premium as the dealers are very poor down here.
glad we could help mate , just think of all the mods you can now addI've been thinking about this more and more over the last few hours, and actually with my head rather than heart now, and am also struggling to justify the extra £3000+.
I'm now thinking of going for a standard Cupra then upgrading with either a Revo or JE Design kit.
Just want to say a massive thanks to everyone that's input into this thread, especially the ones who advised against the LCR *Queue posts of "I told you so!"*
As much as I'd still love one (and am extremely jealous of those of you getting one) I just cant justify it now that I've priced the Cupra without VAT for SeanCorky (having previously not wanted to for fear of changing my mind!!).
Anyway, thanks again for the input!
Plus point of chosing the Cupra over LCR - black alloys
"wow, it looks just like the old one!"
I'd be looking for a 2nd hand RS4 or similar.
I did have second thoughts, especially when reading all the negative comments, which I have taken on board.
I had committed some time ago with a deposit, and when I tried to cancel I was told I would loose my deposit, because the order was already on the system
So I’ll bite the bullet and not dwell on it + look forward to getting it instead
There is a positive…It will make a decent 2nd hand buy for someone when I come to sell
Really wise decision I think Adam, you're getting every bit the car for a significant wedge less of cash
Poverty
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LCR is a waste of money like others have said. Poor showing by seat and exactly why I will never buy another seat as long as the carry on churning out gimmicks like this. Yes the k1 is also on of their gimmicks but you could out up with that due to the cheap price at the time, but right now for seat to want to charge 27k for something which will have no real exclusivety or performance benefit over the standard car? Let's not forget that the dealers and seat themselves are also **** when it comes to customer service once they have your money. Not surprised in the slightest that seat don't make a profit as their marketing an product men just seem to be clueless. Just look how they dropped the ball with the bocanegra, that car could have been epic but instead it's a bit of a limo wrist when compared to the concept. Ford and Renault, he'll even fiat these days have the bullocks to make their top of the range cars special, whilst seat keep churning out the same rehashed shite with slight variations.
Thank fook my k1 only cost me 18k new, anyone who pays 27k for a lcr needs their head testing, give me a standard cupra and I will turn it into a carbon copy Lcr for 2.5k tops.
Thank fook my k1 only cost me 18k new, anyone who pays 27k for a lcr needs their head testing, give me a standard cupra and I will turn it into a carbon copy Lcr for 2.5k tops.
I've been thinking about this more and more over the last few hours, and actually with my head rather than heart now, and am also struggling to justify the extra £3000+.
I'm now thinking of going for a standard Cupra then upgrading with either a Revo or JE Design kit.
Just want to say a massive thanks to everyone that's input into this thread, especially the ones who advised against the LCR *Queue posts of "I told you so!"*
As much as I'd still love one (and am extremely jealous of those of you getting one) I just cant justify it now that I've priced the Cupra without VAT for SeanCorky (having previously not wanted to for fear of changing my mind!!).
Anyway, thanks again for the input!
Plus point of chosing the Cupra over LCR - black alloys
That's too good an offer to refuse tbh
Go with the cupra, use the extra bit of cash left over to get it to Stage 2+
Hi OP,
If you've not already commited I'd say the 3k is quite hard to justify. I think that as mentioned before you're kind of paying 2.7k of this on exclutivity... depends how much you value it at really. You can make some awesome changes to a Cupra with that 3k.. you can even make it look like the R and still have a nice chunk to spend on handling and power.
... that's just what i think. I think overall spending the 3k on mods you can make a standard cupra a lot more unique that an R.
If you've not already commited I'd say the 3k is quite hard to justify. I think that as mentioned before you're kind of paying 2.7k of this on exclutivity... depends how much you value it at really. You can make some awesome changes to a Cupra with that 3k.. you can even make it look like the R and still have a nice chunk to spend on handling and power.
... that's just what i think. I think overall spending the 3k on mods you can make a standard cupra a lot more unique that an R.
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