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DCTs are definitely the way forward in the world of Autos - though never being able to drive a manual due to disability I have never known what I'm missing out on.

Having said that, planting your foot and being continuously pinned to your seat with no neck-snapping gear-change but just a surge of torque is too addictive :D

Maybe a test drive of each by your Son? (Private road if needs be?)

A lot of people are dead against DSGs as they think they are "just another auto" but I find they're quite good at changing perceptions ;)
 
DSG here, I had a 170CR FR that was DSG and I loved it, I ordered my Audi A3 170CR from new and spec'd DSG on it. Struggling for choice of next car as I don't want to go back to manual!! (I'm 22 btw)

All you lazy DSG drivers :p

Ah the old lazy comment...so tell me...when you change the channel on your TV, you get up and pres the button on the side don't you....?
 
Thanks for all your comments.
It will be no surprise to most of you that after a test drive we went for the DSG. Very impressive.
I shall be looking for a DSG type gearbox on my next car but that is probably several years away.
 
I have a 2010 FR170CR with the DSG box and think it's the most awesome auto box on the market. It is on the money for >90% of the time. There are 2 times when I prefer manual - 1. When driving at 40mph the box wants to go into 6th gear and the engine is not happy at the low revs. 2. When you really want to nail it, manual will always be king in my opinion.

I would also add that when you brake hard, the box drops the gears as you would in a manual and will be in 2nd turning into a 90 degree corner. Most autos free wheel round the corner in 3rd or 4th giving no engine braking and massive understeer.

Massive front end grip from the FR.

I'm sure your son wont be disappointed whatever box he decides to buy.

Good luck
 
I have had quiet afew Leon fr and 3 in dsg,I think dsg is awesome I don't use the paddles much but nice to have them the changes are super smooth and I bet are abit quicker u do know pulling off and gunning it the dsg is loads better I just picked a new supercopa up and am missing dsg already so it dsg here.
One point do they go wrong much if so us it expensive to fix never heard of one going wrong ???
 
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I have been forced by disability since 2008 to only drive cars that are auto so have no choice theses days but if I had discovered DSG before, and if I could afford it I would go for it after 30 years of manuals.

Its a bit like the Michelin tyres ads from many years back when a guy goes into a showroom to buy a new car when the sales person asked “what are you looking for in your car” and he replies “It’s got to be a Michelin car”. Same now with me, it’s got to be a DSG.:lol:
 
I have a 2010 FR170CR with the DSG box and think it's the most awesome auto box on the market. It is on the money for >90% of the time. There are 2 times when I prefer manual - 1. When driving at 40mph the box wants to go into 6th gear and the engine is not happy at the low revs. 2. When you really want to nail it, manual will always be king in my opinion.

I would also add that when you brake hard, the box drops the gears as you would in a manual and will be in 2nd turning into a 90 degree corner. Most autos free wheel round the corner in 3rd or 4th giving no engine braking and massive understeer.

Massive front end grip from the FR.

I'm sure your son wont be disappointed whatever box he decides to buy.

Good luck

I find you dont get hardly engine breaking at all unless you have it in sport or flick down in manual. Im also in the same situation with being forced to drive an auto since somebody wrote me off lol. DSG suits me at the moment due to the type of driving i do (mainly b roads and motorways etc) but if i end up doing more town driving ill be looking for a tq convertor auto. The dsg is a liitle lumpy and dimwitted for my liking round town. Saying that mines a 06 plate. Dont know if the newer ones have better programming.
 
For me in my mid 30's I love driving my DSG car. Its the best of both worlds (well almost!).

But the alternative is having a manual VAG car. Lovely cars as they are its not like the shift quality you get on a Type R (which I also get to drive!). So your not missing out on much from that point of view.

You do need to learn how to get the best from a DSG car and like most things 'auto' you need to over-ride them. Your son might find it boring or might love the compromise.
 
I'm 26 and just picked up my first DSG leon today. I'm instantly feeling a little disconnected from the car at times, but its very early days. Like all things I know it's just needs adjusting to but the box itself is amazing and can see why everyone loves it
 
It surprises me how nobody mentioned the fact that these DSG transmissions can easily become an expensive nightmare... and a true pain in the bottom once they begin to fail... Or is it just that you guys don't experience this overseas? Hmmm...
 
It surprises me how nobody mentioned the fact that these DSG transmissions can easily become an expensive nightmare... and a true pain in the bottom once they begin to fail... Or is it just that you guys don't experience this overseas? Hmmm...

So can a manual if the turbo goes.

My last DSG had 85k and was still smooth as ever. And I wasn't THAT nice to it either. That's with 1 DSG oil change

You can always be unlucky. Your cambelt or tensioner could snap as well....


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I'm 26 and just picked up my first DSG leon today. I'm instantly feeling a little disconnected from the car at times, but its very early days. Like all things I know it's just needs adjusting to but the box itself is amazing and can see why everyone loves it

My biggest tip would to be to use the sport mode when you need to. Until recently I didn't realise it shifts faster and revs more (apart from the obvious being in a lower gear). If I think I might need to go a bit faster, I click it into sport and drop it back to D when I'm done.

I've read the new Clio Sport and possibly the new CTR will both feature DSG's.
 
My biggest tip would to be to use the sport mode when you need to. Until recently I didn't realise it shifts faster and revs more (apart from the obvious being in a lower gear). If I think I might need to go a bit faster, I click it into sport and drop it back to D when I'm done.

I've read the new Clio Sport and possibly the new CTR will both feature DSG's.

Biggest pro for me of the DSG is that it brakes properly on the engine, makes cornering SO much better.
Give that a go. You can almost steer into a corner by lifting off the throttle.

I hardly ever use sport. I'd put it on on a track though for a bit fun, and then back to tiptronic mode


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I'd say either manual or DSG. Personally, I'd say manual ... for that kind of car, but if you really encounter many traffic jams on a daily basis, DSG might be a good option.

Automatic is an absolute NO for me.