Dealer sold me a mapped car...where do I stand?

AL90

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Well each to their own I guess.
Mapping might be fun but parting with £300 + or what ever it is isn't so fun.

At the end of the day it's not my choice, but personally I think getting it flashed back to standard is a huge waste of time and money, especially you decide you want to get it mapped again in the future. Plus, there's the fact it will be down on power to what it is now.
If it was me, I'd take it to a few tuning companies to try and identify the map, and get it checked over by them, or contact the previous owner to find out what it's running, then just run it and enjoy it.
There's still plenty of other mods you can do after mapping.
 

matt_s

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Well each to their own I guess.
Mapping might be fun but parting with £300 + or what ever it is isn't so fun.

At the end of the day it's not my choice, but personally I think getting it flashed back to standard is a huge waste of time and money, especially you decide you want to get it mapped again in the future. Plus, there's the fact it will be down on power to what it is now.
If it was me, I'd take it to a few tuning companies to try and identify the map, and get it checked over by them, or contact the previous owner to find out what it's running, then just run it and enjoy it.
There's still plenty of other mods you can do after mapping.

Problem is though that it he doesn't know what map is on it or what state it's in if it's tweakable. Leave it on and it could end up with a melted piston if too lean or washed bores if too rich.

I can't see the previous owner being much use as he has already said it is 4 months old with 1k miles on it and was an ex managers car from a seat dealer, so probably seat uk or the dealer as the previous owner.

But if the manager knew he was only going to have the car for a little while then it may have the cheapest map he could find, plus there is a dealer that has been using a mapped demonstrator to sell standard cars.
 

andycupra

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What insurance companys crash assessor looks at an ecu? Cant tell by looking at it and they cant say you knew it was mapped. Its more visual mods.

insurance do check for maps, - but only when its worth there while and usually for high value cars/claims.
I know of one case where someone wrote off their ferrari and didnt get a payout. - it was mapped, they even sent the ecu to ferrari for confirmation as well as providing evidence from his online forum posts.
Its unlikely they would go to this length for many claims though. However someone boasting on a forum is enough for them to turn down a claim.
 

AL90

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Problem is though that it he doesn't know what map is on it or what state it's in if it's tweakable. Leave it on and it could end up with a melted piston if too lean or washed bores if too rich.

I can't see the previous owner being much use as he has already said it is 4 months old with 1k miles on it and was an ex managers car from a seat dealer, so probably seat uk or the dealer as the previous owner.

But if the manager knew he was only going to have the car for a little while then it may have the cheapest map he could find, plus there is a dealer that has been using a mapped demonstrator to sell standard cars.

I get that, but if it's a revo stage one then he's got a £300 map for nothing. But either way, at the min he doesn't know anything about the map so at this stage I personally wouldn't be too hasty to wipe it off.
 

lawrieIbizaMk4

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I'm not hasty to wipe it anymore, I like the way the car drives (a lot).

The cars getting forged pistons and rods very soon anyway so once that's done I will feel a lot better about it!

I'm still to hear back from the dealer with regards to the digging they've being doing. I will probably be pushing for an engine replacement though, then put the forged parts into that
 

AL90

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I'm not hasty to wipe it anymore, I like the way the car drives (a lot).

The cars getting forged pistons and rods very soon anyway so once that's done I will feel a lot better about it!

I'm still to hear back from the dealer with regards to the digging they've being doing. I will probably be pushing for an engine replacement though, then put the forged parts into that

Nice one. :)
Where you buying your pistons and rods from?
 

lucifer666

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TSR, same rods as me, different pistons, tsr supplied ones are slightly softer but have tighter piston wall clearance and don't require rebore.

If your getting pistons and rods fitted, pointless getting seat to give you a new engine, its the pistons that are the problem.
 

AL90

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Dec 14, 2011
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Sheffield
TSR, same rods as me, different pistons, tsr supplied ones are slightly softer but have tighter piston wall clearance and don't require rebore.

If your getting pistons and rods fitted, pointless getting seat to give you a new engine, its the pistons that are the problem.

its something id love to do, but i bet it costs a lot for the parts and work. its something beyond what i would take on myself, i just dont have the space or kit, so would really mean that i have to get it done for me.

what was the main improvement you saw from doing the rods and pistons?
 
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