MOT FR De-DPFed

[andy550]

Hi all. Had the leon MOT'd yesterday and was expecting to be able to reassure people and say "it passed no problem despite the DPF delete." Well thankfully it did pass but I can't really reassure anyone cos the guys doing it (kwik-fit) didn't/couldn't take the undertray off! I'm not complaining, just found it funny they sack off half the MOT because of a piece of plastic!

So that's me happy although I do need new tyres .

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[silver surfer]

your not allowed to remove any covers on engine or under vehicle as an mot tester

 

[NWhiteley]

Hi all. Had the leon MOT'd yesterday and was expecting to be able to reassure people and say "it passed no problem despite the DPF delete." Well thankfully it did pass but I can't really reassure anyone cos the guys doing it (kwik-fit) didn't/couldn't take the undertray off! I'm not complaining, just found it funny they sack off half the MOT because of a piece of plastic!

So that's me happy although I do need new tyres .

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They cannot remove anything that is fastened down (or up in this case).

So, Kwik Fit didnt sack-off half of the MOT, they did it correctly.

 

[andy550]

Ha really?! I figured there was an official line on it as it was mentioned on the certificate. Seems pretty silly to be honest though.

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[NWhiteley]

Ha really?! I figured there was an official line on it as it was mentioned on the certificate. Seems pretty silly to be honest though.

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They will note it on the advisory list so that you are aware that those items behind the cover havent been checked. Its more of a CYA exercise really.

 

[silver surfer]

its an advisory that covers are not removed during test ,covers tester if anything behind or under covers is faulty in any testable way

 

[PlatinumCupra]

How are people's insurances with a dpf delete declared?

 

[porksword28]

Technically having it does mean that the car is legally not road worthy (mOT failure) so surely declaring that your car is not road worthy to your insurance wouldn't be a wise move?

 

[andy550]

Yeah don't tell the insurance company. I've declared everything apart from that. It's the same as changing/removing the cat in a petrol, bit of a no-no.

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[betty_swollox]

Yeah don't tell the insurance company. I've declared everything apart from that. It's the same as changing/removing the cat in a petrol, bit of a no-no.

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So your insurance is invalid then?

 

[andy550]

So your insurance is invalid then?

Yeah probably but they'd have to realise the DPF canisters is empty. I didn't realise it was illegal till after I'd had it done.

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[betty_swollox]

Yeah probably but they'd have to realise the DPF canisters is empty. I didn't realise it was illegal till after I'd had it done.

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lol and you think thats ok??

It doesnt bother me that much tbf, just annoys me how laid back you are about driving a car that isnt insured

 

[andy550]

lol and you think thats ok??

It doesnt bother me that much tbf, just annoys me how laid back you are about driving a car that isnt insured

Yeah I don't like it and don't think it's OK really, when I found out I seriously considered selling up. Kinda frightens me every now and then when I think about it but it's something they'd have to notice. There's a lot of cars without DPFs and Cats/Race Cats in driving about.

I can see why it annoys you, but I've made the decision and I'm far from the only one. Selling up/replacing it is something I do consider every now and then. C63 keeps calling me...

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[andy550]

lol and you think thats ok??

It doesn't bother me that much tbf, just annoys me how laid back you are about driving a car that isnt insured

An interesting thing I've read looking through the Road Traffic act is this section:

"54(2) - Every exhaust system and silencer shall be maintained in good and efficient working order and shall not be altered so as to increase the noise made by the escape of exhaust gases."

Plenty of people get away with that one! Definitely seems like a case of pick and choose what to enforce...

 

[James_R]

If an exhaust is deemed to be louder than that of a standard system then that's reason to fail a car on its own. It's ridiculous and common sense plays a large part in the decisions made.

 

[NWhiteley]

If an exhaust is deemed to be louder than that of a standard system then that's reason to fail a car on its own. It's ridiculous and common sense plays a large part in the decisions made.

Indeed, how do you determine how much louder 1 exhaust is compared with another unless they are side by side.

What they need to do is provide the testers with data for all cars stating what noise levels are expected for a 3 year model in db's, then have a noise metre and the level needs to be within 10% or so

 

[James_R]

The fail criteria is "obviously louder than that of a standard system"

If you need to use measuring equipment then it's not "obviously louder"

 

[andy550]

The fail criteria is "obviously louder than that of a standard system"

If you need to use measuring equipment then it's not "obviously louder"

That makes sense, it's what logical people do. BUT if you're following the rules precisely, it's illegal. It's no wonder people get away with claiming for this that and everything when there's such contradictions everywhere!

 

[joe roberts]

Ha really?! I figured there was an official line on it as it was mentioned on the certificate. Seems pretty silly to be honest though.

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done the same with mine yesterday. I thought it strange aswell.

 

[Crafoo]

Something like this I would personally just have it put back on to be on the safe side.

I'm pretty sure the wording on most if not all insurance policies is something to the effect of "you need to make us aware of any changes as failure to do so MAY invalidate your policy" doesn't actually say it will, although we know insurance companies will do anything to weasel out of paying out if they can.

I would wager there are thousands of people driving around that have bought new cars and had different wheels, colour coded bumpers or other little options put on at the dealers that don't even realise they are supposed to declare them.