MTC tfsi induction kits.. ITG copy or rubbish???

[4/4 dirty dervs]

I'm looking for a induction kit to my car. and considering the options (very few) ive been trawling through ebay and found hese MTC induction kits that seem to bear great resembelance to the ITG kit. any my question is ... will these cheaper kits provide the same gains as the likes of the ITG and others on the market etc.
I do know this topic has pretty mchbeen exhausted but I don't want to pay a chunk of money on a false economy than pay a little more for the likes of a P-flo.
thanks in advance for any responses.

 

[Guncha]

Here it is http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=404317&page=4&highlight=mtc
I posted pics of the Creations Motorsport intake in link above + other forum experience http://www.audi-sport.net/xf/threads/s3-mtc-intake-kit-in-white.193365/page-3

 

[Dan FR]

Most of these intakes are very similar, you could make your own for slightly less if you wanted. The MTC works well though

 

[jake]

if your stage one, id not bother it will mess fuel trims up

 

[jocco]

How about stage2 from Revo?

Revo recommends an induction kit for their Stage2.

 

[Dan FR]

Modifying the kit to include the oval MAF housing improves response and drivability. Fuel trims aren't the be all and end all of intakes

 

[dj_troopa]

I had the MTC kit with an ITG filter and for the money you can't go wrong. The car pulled a little better and it sounded awesome, pretty loud, but loud is good for some

Don't start researching into MAF housings and fuel trims, it will make you paranoid and think twice about it. Get the kit, stick it on and enjoy! I moved to a Revo intake afterwards which is pretty much the daddy of intakes, but the MTC i'd recommend to anyone and i can't fault it.

 

[4/4 dirty dervs]

Yeah i think i will go for the MTC well the creation motorsport one as its cheaper. Looks identical and ive had some creation stuff before and dont remember being dissapointed with quality. But im finding it difficult finding a suitable filter to attatch to it. The fella at creation says their filters only go upto a 70 . and im worried ill buy the wrong one and sulk when it all gets delivered because i cant fit it due to my incompetence lol. Yeah i have read into the fuel trim business and that has made me slightly wery but in one thread they made a simple mod on the maf and one post reckoned he got his down to 0% .. Whether this is accurate i dont know though . anyways going on off on a slight tangent. Can anyone recomend a filter that performs well and will fit ??.. I would make my own induction kit and cut the maf out the engine cover but given the price of engine covers. When i come to sell and put back to standard dont really want to spend more money to get rid.
Thanks again.

 

[Dan FR]

Ignore the post about it being 0% - utter nonsense and means he's simply cleared his faultcodes recently or has an issue. Modifying it as described in that one thread will help trims slightly but won't make a difference to how it drives.

Any filter with a 90mm neck will do, i bought this one for my own intake (same size pipework) I offered and they accepted £40. If you buy a filter without an alloy neck like this one then you may need a 90mm joiner

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RAMAIR-UN...arts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item51af797a19

 

[Joshkcupra]

I'm running the MTC kit, it's very loud on WOT, but it added alot of power I felt personally from going from a neuspeed pflo.. Its great bit of kit

 

[dj_troopa]

The popular choice for a filter would definitely be the ITG Maxogen air filter. You need one with an OD 89mm neck.

Here is the cheapest to purchase from...

http://www.camskill.co.uk/m35b0s3496p63339/ITG_-_Maxogen_Air_Filter_-_JC60_86_

 

[4/4 dirty dervs]

To be fair i was a bit sceptical considering revo and itg and such like couldnt manage that tollerance yet a bit of butchery in the garage could sort it out lol .. Ok ill have a look at the one you've got . i was wondering about the ones without a alloy neck.. So i am right in guessing the creation motorsport and mtc are identical .? And great im glad im hearing good things .. One last thing. I've gathered the induction can creat the flutter noise. Is this the same as turbo stall which ive read countless times? .. If so is this an added effect to the engine by fitting the free flowing induction kit or just free flowingness of the new induction kit amplifying a noise that the engine already makes with a standard air box but we just cant hear it?
Thanks for everyones help whos commented by the way and sorry for all the questions which probably seem pretty tedious.

 

[dj_troopa]

The MTC and Creation Motorsport kits are identical, even the Ebay descriptions are identical!

It does create the flutter sound but this is only sound, no issues there. I did a whole bunch of research on intake kits before purchasing the MTC and it's a good bit of kit.

Don't worry about the questions, i was the same except i read god knows how many topics For you to progress in power you will need an intake kit. It's always the best place to start

 

[4/4 dirty dervs]

Exactly .. Well its already got the worlds worst stage 1 map on it (just realised today the exhaust is popping on WOT which im pretty sure its not meant to do lol) .. And the clutch is slipping so i have these things to deal with first. But i already have a clutch sorted to be fitted and i want to add an induction kit and decat to the car before i take it up to Rtech to sort me out.. So there is method in my madness. Its just a case of hardware before software. Not sure about the HPFP at the moment but thats totally off topic. Thanks everyone.

 

[Guncha]

Don't start researching into MAF housings and fuel trims, it will make you paranoid and think twice about it. Get the kit, stick it on and enjoy! I moved to a Revo intake afterwards which is pretty much the daddy of intakes, but the MTC i'd recommend to anyone and i can't fault it.

Agree with You!
I followed discussions on Facebook TFSI group and became a bit paranoid about OEM MAF housing shape, cause all BIG brands (REVO, ITG, Neuspeed, Forge etc.) are using ROUND (not OVAL) MAF housings.
My idea was to make a spacer for MAF sensor, cause fuel trims depend on MAF localisation place in air duct, am I wrong?

 

[Dan FR]

I think a spacer would certainly help to move the sensor to be more central in the pipework. The OE MAF housing shape does make a suprising difference to the way the car drives/responds under everyday driving, more responsive, much smoother transition from vacuum to boost etc. Can't say it made a difference to outright performance though.

The oval MAF tube calibration in the mapping is different to other TFSI lumps like the Audi A4 which use a round MAF housing.

Don't let it deter you from buying an intake though, they free up the 'top end' of the rev range massively

 

[Guncha]

I think a spacer would certainly help to move the sensor to be more central in the pipework. The OE MAF housing shape does make a suprising difference to the way the car drives/responds under everyday driving, more responsive, much smoother transition from vacuum to boost etc. Can't say it made a difference to outright performance though.

The oval MAF tube calibration in the mapping is different to other TFSI lumps like the Audi A4 which use a round MAF housing.

Don't let it deter you from buying an intake though, they free up the 'top end' of the rev range massively

Great description, thanks!!!

 

[4/4 dirty dervs]

So dan seeing as by sounds of it you've tried/ had both. Is it worth me trying to make my own out my engine cover? Or is the difference not big enough to worry about. . im in decisive and hate the thought of going for the wrong option lol

 

[4/4 dirty dervs]

Actually second thoughts i cant be bothered to cut the cover up ill just buy it. Thanks for your help

 

[avendit]

Is the MTC kit quite easy to mod to having an oval MAF housing? Can you DIY or purchase something easily? Really appreciate Dan's writeup of the differences, but maintaining the smooth daily drive is about equal importance to me as freeing up the top Oh the pain of having a family these days.

Avendit
2011 FR with bluefin stage1