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1.2 TSI FR 1st Service

scooter1556

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Hi All,

My 13 plate 1.2 TSI FR is at 9000 miles after 7 months so I was anticipating a service at 10k sometime in December, however, after delving a little deeper it appears that it is on the long-life service interval (QG1) and the 'spanner' indicator in the car is currently stating 514 days or 9800 miles until a service is due (I think this is what it means??).

Should I just follow this and let the car tell me when it needs a service or get the oil changed at 10k anyway. My main concern is warranty issues with several dealers not understanding the concept of long-life intervals. I'd appreciate any thoughts/experiences, otherwise I will probably call the dealers and get them to confirm when they believe the car should be serviced.

Thanks.
 
HI
Like you I have a 1.2tsi on long life, now at 23000 miles. I decided to do my own oil change at 10k since it can't hurt; naturally I used the VW longlife III fully synthetic oil. I changed the filter too although I reused the original sump plug, since the replacement sump plug differs in colour. Total cost less then £50 and it gave me a good opportunity to study the underside of the car and deal with some early rust spots.

When the 20k service came due I gave the car to the stealers and they duly did the oil/filter/pollen filter and charged me £200. They also reset the car to 10k service intervals so that they'd get another job before the warrantee runs out. I double checked that they used the good oil, or so they say...

I decided to retain the 10k service intervals although they offered to reset it to 20k/variable when they were challenged.

Once the warrantee runs out I will DIY as it's all quite straightforward. I don't trust dealers.

Hope this helps.

Joe.
 
My 1.2 TSI is also on longlife servicing. I do a very low mileage and the car gets a gentle life - very few short journeys etc. - it is either going on longish trips relatively free from traffic or sitting at home. I decided to follow the indicator since the oil is designed to allow extended service intervals and I don't see any point in throwing the oil away needlessly.

The car monitors the petrol consumption which is an indication of how arduous the conditions of use are and also monitors the oil temperature since hot oil deteriorates faster than cooler oil.

I can confirm that the display is showing miles to go and days to go. In my case I took it in after 2 years even though for some reason it still had several days to go. The dealer reset the indicator to fixed interval and so I got them to put it back to variable interval. A cynic might wonder if they are trying to get extra work!

Some background on how the minitoring system works can be found in the following (a little old but probably still OK).

http://www.volkspage.net/technik/ssp/ssp/SSP_224.pdf
 
Some good info guys, thank you. I may go the route of doing an oil change myself at 10k and stick with the long-life interval so the dealers don't get more money out of me than necessary. I already have a 5 litre bottle of VW long-life oil so it will only be the cost of a genuine filter and sump plug just in case.
 
scooter1556 said:
Some good info guys, thank you. I may go the route of doing an oil change myself at 10k and stick with the long-life interval so the dealers don't get more money out of me than necessary. I already have a 5 litre bottle of VW long-life oil so it will only be the cost of a genuine filter and sump plug just in case.
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Agreed

I do not beleive that cars should have oil in them for 20k or more.

And the long life service only covers the oil change interval.

There is also the issue of Seat not seeing the car each year to consider - many of the warranty clauses state that they must see the car each year "INSPECTION SERVICE"
 
Dont know about some people on here but I run a mile from any car which has been on Long life servicing. Last diesel I had was no end of trouble after it spent most of its life on long life.

Ive always believed its more important to have a normal service if your car does short/small trips.
 
I agree that cars which are used for short trips around town where the oil never reaches optimal temperature for very long should definitely be on fixed interval servicing. Mine spends it's life on the motorway. The shortest trip it ever does is 20 miles and as a result on a fixed service plan I would be taking it into SEAT twice a year. I don't mind doing this (although I would rather not) but as the car is on long life servicing from the factory I am tempted to do an oil change myself and only take it to the dealers when the ECU instructs me to.

It's an interesting point about the warranty clause regarding a yearly inspection service. I will need to look into this. It seems crazy that the dealers will charge £169 for the 1st service which is basically an oil change, wash, hoover and a SEAT stamp in the log book. The fixed price servicing is a little confusing as the 1st service (£169) is identical to the minor service (£129)...
 
Sneaky! I wonder if anyone on long life servicing has ever had SEAT worm their way out of fixing an issue under warranty because the car hasn't been 'inspected' each year.
 
I would love to be able to say I doubt it, I've had Audis and VWs on long life servicing when I was doing motorway miles to work and never had issues with warranty work, however I would reckon it would be down to how each dealer interprets that statement should the need arise.

My car is on the Seat 3 year service plan and it states that car should be set to time and distance servicing and not long life.
 
Every car with any oil in should be serviced every 12months or 12k as rule of thumb.

Yes some cars want it earlyer than 12k so there for I'd do it early but I'd never let one o more than 12k.

Renaults did what seat have done with there early dci engines they stated the cars didn't need serviceing untill 15k had put Lon life oil in after about 30k the turbos where failing left right and center due to oil starvation. Took 5 year of this till renault change there service intervals and admitted they where too long.

Oil is a major part of the engine in fact it's the most important part. It's just the same as cleaning the car the engine also need cleaning regular to keep it nice
 
Thanks for the information. I am 100% sure that I am going to be doing an oil change at or around 10k, the question really is whether to take it to SEAT to do it while it is under warranty or wait until the long-life interval for them to service the car and do an oil change myself which will be much cheaper even using genuine parts.
 
scooter1556 said:
Thanks for the information. I am 100% sure that I am going to be doing an oil change at or around 10k, the question really is whether to take it to SEAT to do it while it is under warranty or wait until the long-life interval for them to service the car and do an oil change myself which will be much cheaper even using genuine parts.
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I would do it myself but use a genuine filter ( they arn't too expensive )

That way you have saved money, you know it's been done and no one can use the non-oem filter as a reason to reject warranty.
 
mines 18 months old ,done 9000 miles , change the oil and filter every 6 months.... simple!
 
Thanks for the replies all, I will double check my service book later on and if the inspection interval states 2 years I will get on and do an oil/filter change myself. Should I log this in the service book or just keep the receipts for when I sell it and make a note of mileage for my own paperwork? I'm aware that SEAT will probably pick me up on it if I log it in the service book but potential buyers may be put off seeing that the car had seemingly done 20k before a service...
 
As long as the book is stamped at the manufacturer's specified interval I think you'll find most buyers will be quite happy. And if you trade it in all they are looking for is a full service history.

Not everyone is as enthusiastic as most of us on this forum are.
 
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