1.2 TSI FR to a 1.0 EcoTSI FR

[Fr2013]

Hi all,

I'm heading down to SEAT tomorrow to check out if there are any deals to be had if I upgrade my 2013 FR (PCP) to a new FR with DSG transmission.

I'd like to know a few things from drivers both the new FR and the 1.0 TSI in general.... Here goes!

Is it more economical than the 1.2 TSI (105) I'll be replacing? I get about 38MPG on average now in my rush hour urban commute. (My FR doesn't have start-stop)

What is the DSG gearbox like paired to this engine?

Why, oh why can the 1.4 EcoTSI not be configured with a DSG in the FR??

I've got VCDS and a cable for my current FR, will I still be able to use this on the new one to disable the annoying cornering fog lights?

What's the build quality like? This is my MAIN gripe with my current FR. I have rattles from the handbrake area, A-pillars, passenger and driver doors and also the speedo area.
Has sound insulation improved?

Does the FR come with flappy paddles on the steering wheel in the 1.0 TSI DSG?

Anyone got Seat Sound? I'm thinking of adding this as the sound in my current car is underwhelming. I understand it won't perform miracles but it must be better than standard!

I've been eying up a Skoda Fabia SE-L with 17" wheels with the (older) 1.2 TSI DSG due to the 0% finance they currently have but I much prefer the look of the Ibiza!

Sorry for all the questions but I'd really appreciate if anyone would be able to share their experiences!

Cheers

 

[Fr2013]

Well, I've placed my order! 4 week build/delivery time.

1.0 TSI FR 3dr Technology, DSG with Seat sound, Emocion red

Build quality looked vastly improved. Flappy paddles included along with a whole host of other stuff my current FR doesn't have. Looks like a nice little upgrade.

 

[markm49uk]

As I mentioned on my order thread (1.4 ecotsi) I am contemplating the 1.2TSI if the dealer comes back in the near future with the expected 30 week delay to the 1.4 engines. Having said that and checking the performance of the 1.0 ecotsi it would appear that this little engine has more torque than the 1.2! This would be noticeable in in-gear acceleration and the DSG does appeal - might go for the 1.0 in the event of a delay to the 1.4.......

 

[Fr2013]

Yeah the DSG massively appealed to me (I went looking for an auto) and was glad to find that the 1.0 TSI is available with it. However, I would have considered he 1.4TSI if the DSG was available with that, but it isn't (weirdly)
My 1.2 TSI (105hp EA111) has an extremely pleasing amount of torque for city driving, so I'm sure the 1.0 TSI EA211 engine will be more than sufficient! I think the 1.4 would have been overkill for me and what id be using it for.

Interestingly, I noted that the EA211 family of engines now allow for quicker heat up times for both the engine and the passenger cabin. This was one of my gripes of the EA111 1.2TSI fitted to my Ibiza. I'd get to work 5 miles away and the heater was only just starting to produce heat!

 

[markm49uk]

Yeah the DSG massively appealed to me (I went looking for an auto) and was glad to find that the 1.0 TSI is available with it. However, I would have considered he 1.4TSI if the DSG was available with that, but it isn't (weirdly)
My 1.2 TSI (105hp EA111) has an extremely pleasing amount of torque for city driving, so I'm sure the 1.0 TSI EA211 engine will be more than sufficient! I think the 1.4 would have been overkill for me and what id be using it for.

Interestingly, I noted that the EA211 family of engines now allow for quicker heat up times for both the engine and the passenger cabin. This was one of my gripes of the EA111 1.2TSI fitted to my Ibiza. I'd get to work 5 miles away and the heater was only just starting to produce heat!

My current car - a Merc A Class diesel has a heater to provide warm air into the cabin fairly quickly without waiting for the engine to warm up. I always assumed that petrols all warm up fairly quickly so good to hear that the new engine does so - nothing worse for an engine then never getting warm on short runs.