You can download a copy of VAG SSP224 that NetworkMan referred to from here
http://www.volkspage.net/technik/ssp/ssp/SSP_224.pdf
That explains some of the calculations.
1st Service Costs - Milton Keynes area results
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http://www.volkspage.net/technik/ssp/ssp/SSP_224.pdf
That explains some of the calculations.
My thoughts precisely - if it ain't broke etc. I had visions of endless trips back to the dealer to fix rattles and electrical gremlins. I would have thought a much easier fix would have been to connect into the old relay base, run a loom through the bulkhead and park the new relay position in the engine bay. No dismantling and much quicker, so cheaper for SEAT.
As for the 1st long life service, the parts came to £71.31 and the labour £97.68.
Oil filter 7.44
Cabin Filter 12.92
Oil 3.6ltr 49.79
Sump washer 0.44
All above prices inc VAT at 20%, but the parts were discounted by 20% and the oil by 28% on the invoice.
Still rather disappointed by the local independant's prices though !
znww5,
Mine won't be due for service until it's two years old I expect. Looking at the service book it seems there should be an inspection service at three years and then one every two years. So it seems I'll wind up visiting every year anyway - not what I'd hoped.
Did you get an inspection service when you took yours in recently and do you still have to go after two years as well?
Mine won't be due for service until it's two years old I expect. Looking at the service book it seems there should be an inspection service at three years and then one every two years. So it seems I'll wind up visiting every year anyway - not what I'd hoped.
Did you get an inspection service when you took yours in recently and do you still have to go after two years as well?
The longlife service is an Inspection Service and Oil change. So you shouldn't need any additional services except possibly cambelt change & brake fluid change. There are normally 2 schedules for the longlife services ( which alternate at nominally 20/40k ). Normally for diesels the 40k one includes a fuel and air filter change in addition to the normal 20k one. Don't know about petrol's, its a few years since I had one...
I think I've got to grips with this now. There are 3 types of service: oil change service, interval service and inspection service. Overlaid upon those are 'additional tasks', which vary depending on the model, engine and mileage.
An Oil Change Service is just that - oil and filter change, plus a check of brake discs and pads.
In Interval Service is oil and filter change, plus more extensive checks and inspections. Cars on the long-life scheme trigger these with the service warning light.
An Inspection Service is something of a misnomer, as there is no real servicing done at all, just a set of inspections and greasing the door arrester straps.
So my recent 1st long life service (at 16,000mls) consisted of an Interval Service plus an Additional Task (due at 20,000mls) of changing the cabin filter.
In your case it sounds as though you would have the same service as I did at 2 years or 20,000mls (whichever comes first) and then the same again at 4 years or 40,000mls when the spark plugs and air filter get changed too.
As far as I can see, there would be no reason for any servicing in between times, apart from changing the brake fluid at the 3 year point and every 2 years thereafter.
Having trawled through the complexities of the service booklet, I'm starting to have a little more sympathy for the confusion of the service reception staff!
(Edited to note that I have a 1.2TSi petrol with DSG, other engines have other Additional Tasks at different times & mileages.)
An Oil Change Service is just that - oil and filter change, plus a check of brake discs and pads.
In Interval Service is oil and filter change, plus more extensive checks and inspections. Cars on the long-life scheme trigger these with the service warning light.
An Inspection Service is something of a misnomer, as there is no real servicing done at all, just a set of inspections and greasing the door arrester straps.
So my recent 1st long life service (at 16,000mls) consisted of an Interval Service plus an Additional Task (due at 20,000mls) of changing the cabin filter.
In your case it sounds as though you would have the same service as I did at 2 years or 20,000mls (whichever comes first) and then the same again at 4 years or 40,000mls when the spark plugs and air filter get changed too.
As far as I can see, there would be no reason for any servicing in between times, apart from changing the brake fluid at the 3 year point and every 2 years thereafter.
Having trawled through the complexities of the service booklet, I'm starting to have a little more sympathy for the confusion of the service reception staff!
(Edited to note that I have a 1.2TSi petrol with DSG, other engines have other Additional Tasks at different times & mileages.)
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MisterW, znww5,
Thanks for all the help. I've now got the service book out of the car.
My confusion is based on page 8 which seems to imply that an interval service is done in accordance with the service indicator (as is the oil change). BUT an inspection service is also done firstly after 3 years/40k miles and then every 2 years/40k miles. The inspection service looks similar to the interval service but includes a few extra tasks (exhaust system, body for rust, door arresters and maybe more, I'd need to tabulate both to compare).
What I'd expect would be that the interval service would include all the checks and then there would be the extra jobs - replacing plugs, filters, cambelt if fitted as and when required but the apparent need for inspection service in addition tends to contradict this expectation.
Under note a) it does say that some services can be combined so perhaps this explains my missunderstanding, essentially combining inspection service with interval service and doing them both off the service indicator.
By the way my service book has a date code of 07.10 on the back cover. Are yours different?
Oh!!
I've just seen that on the service record pages there is no tick box for longlife interval service, only oil change and inspection service. I think my service book is rubbish!!!!!!!!
Thanks for all the help. I've now got the service book out of the car.
My confusion is based on page 8 which seems to imply that an interval service is done in accordance with the service indicator (as is the oil change). BUT an inspection service is also done firstly after 3 years/40k miles and then every 2 years/40k miles. The inspection service looks similar to the interval service but includes a few extra tasks (exhaust system, body for rust, door arresters and maybe more, I'd need to tabulate both to compare).
What I'd expect would be that the interval service would include all the checks and then there would be the extra jobs - replacing plugs, filters, cambelt if fitted as and when required but the apparent need for inspection service in addition tends to contradict this expectation.
Under note a) it does say that some services can be combined so perhaps this explains my missunderstanding, essentially combining inspection service with interval service and doing them both off the service indicator.
By the way my service book has a date code of 07.10 on the back cover. Are yours different?
Oh!!
I've just seen that on the service record pages there is no tick box for longlife interval service, only oil change and inspection service. I think my service book is rubbish!!!!!!!!
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Mine will be completely different I'm afraid since its an Exeo ( which is really an A4! )
I haven't got the service book to hand at the moment but I don't recall seeing anything called interval service and I never had anything like that with the 'real' A4 that I had for 6 years prior to the Exeo.
No wonder the Seat dealers are confused
As I said I just took mine to my local indpendent VAG specialist that I've used for ages. I asked when I booked it in if they would need extra time to get parts since the Exeo is still not a very common car. 'No problem' he said, 'its an A4' its just got a SEAT badge
.Hello MisterW,
I've concluded that the service book is in error and that things should be done much as you described earlier namely an oil change and inspection service when the indicator comes on. Additionally there are some extra jobs replacing filters, brake fluid, spark plugs, cambelt etc on a time or distance basis.
I might take a look at the Audi and/or VW Websites and see if they are any help.
I've concluded that the service book is in error and that things should be done much as you described earlier namely an oil change and inspection service when the indicator comes on. Additionally there are some extra jobs replacing filters, brake fluid, spark plugs, cambelt etc on a time or distance basis.
I might take a look at the Audi and/or VW Websites and see if they are any help.
MrW, yes its exactly the same with the Ibiza, it's really a VW Polo in drag! Open the bonnet and it is festooned with VW stickers, oil is VW spec etc, etc.
Networkman - I think it's a classic case of trying to make one document cover too many vehicles and then proceeding to translate it into poor English using a non-technical non-native speaker - the user manual is a nightmare too for exactly the same reason. Yet if you look at the Fabia manual for the same platform theirs actually makes sense!
Networkman - I think it's a classic case of trying to make one document cover too many vehicles and then proceeding to translate it into poor English using a non-technical non-native speaker - the user manual is a nightmare too for exactly the same reason. Yet if you look at the Fabia manual for the same platform theirs actually makes sense!
it has a different setup to the polo though, designed in a different country by a different team of people
But at least they're a different shape
In the case of the Exeo they took the Mk2(B7) production line for the A4 and moved it to Seat. The main difference is that the Exeo has the CR diesel engines rather than the PD ones that were fitted to the A4 and the Exeo has the dash from the A4 cabriolet which looks better than the standard A4 dash. Having had an A4 for 6 years before the Exeo its very much a 'home from home' except that the CR engine is SO much better than the PD.
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