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Hi everyone, the OH has a 2018 Leon Xcellence ST and it has a bit of a rust problem. Notably bubbling through the paint on both rear arches, and the paint on the lower sill (driver side) is peeling away.

Recently an independent completed some suspension and brakes work on the car, and described the underside as being one of the worst cars they had ever seen for rust.

I am a bit baffled as based nowhere near the salty sea air, and the car has primarily been in our ownership - and looked after as it should.

Has anyone else had any rusting on this age of Leon? I've contacted Seat UK who have passed me to the dealer for an inspection to see "if they'll cover it", but I think a car that's 6 years old shouldn't really be having such significant issues...
 
Hi everyone, the OH has a 2018 Leon Xcellence ST and it has a bit of a rust problem. Notably bubbling through the paint on both rear arches, and the paint on the lower sill (driver side) is peeling away.

Recently an independent completed some suspension and brakes work on the car, and described the underside as being one of the worst cars they had ever seen for rust.

I am a bit baffled as based nowhere near the salty sea air, and the car has primarily been in our ownership - and looked after as it should.

Has anyone else had any rusting on this age of Leon? I've contacted Seat UK who have passed me to the dealer for an inspection to see "if they'll cover it", but I think a car that's 6 years old shouldn't really be having such significant issues...

I recently had the rear end of my 2019 Golf, (IRS type) sorted with new adjustable dampers, upgraded brake pads and the ARB.
I've had the car from new,( now 41K miles) and it lives over 2 miles inland Whilst working under there, I noticed the body of the
car is still in very good condition, but the subframe assembly is starting to show signs of notable corrosion, nothing approaching
structural yet, but flaking off thin layers in places, mostly under the damper lower mounts. The motorsports guy that fitted the
dampers/set the car up after said that rusting rear subframes were not uncommon on MBQ platform cars, the worst he'd come
across being a 7-year-old Audi TT that had come in for similar upgrade work, but the subframe was so corroded he had to refuse
to work on it until the assembly was replaced.
 
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I bought my 2015 Cupra ST 2 years ago and I was greeted with this. The subframe itself has some rust, but nothing alarming. The front subframe is in a far better state. Apparently this happens to MQB cars indeed.

In the meantime the rusty control arms have been replaced :)

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I bought my 2015 Cupra ST 2 years ago and I was greeted with this. The subframe itself has some rust, but nothing alarming. The front subframe is in a far better state. Apparently this happens to MQB cars indeed.

In the meantime the rusty control arms have been replaced :)

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Wow - my 2015 160,000 mile MQB rear is nowhere near as bad as this!
 
I've had the car from new,( now 41K miles) and it lives over 2 miles inland Whilst working under there, I noticed the body of the
car is still in very good condition, but the subframe assembly is starting to show signs of notable corrosion, nothing approaching
structural yet, but flaking off thin layers in places, mostly under the damper lower mounts.
Personally I would consider only 2 miles inland is still very much a coastal environment - with all the salty air that brings.
 
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Wow - my 2015 160,000 mile MQB rear is nowhere near as bad as this!
I know right! At first glance this looked terrible, but luckily the arms are replaceable :) The subframe is still in (very) good condition.

As you might have seen, I replaced all the fasteners, and the rear arms/suspension have been overhauled as well.

Dutch climate is pretty wet and we have a lot of salt in the winters.
 
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Personally I would consider only 2 miles inland is still very much a coastal environment - with all the salty air that brings.
In 1991 I lived about 1.5 miles inland in a town, with many streets/buildings between my place and the
coast road and levels of corrosion for mine and my neighbour's cars were at unremarkable normal levels.

In 1998 I moved to the coast road and the difference was stark, everybody's car there rusted more
quickly, some windy days left salt deposits on the windows and my tools in the garage suffered as well.

Since 2017 I've lived 2.5 miles inland, but with less building density and at higher elevation than in 1991,
with things on the corrosion side have gone back to normal - no more salt deposits and tools/other steel
equipment in the garage staying bright. Main point being that my wife's 2017 Citroen, living in the exact
same conditions since 2018 with higher mileage is in better condition underneath than my 2019 Golf.
 
I bought my 2015 Cupra ST 2 years ago and I was greeted with this. The subframe itself has some rust, but nothing alarming. The front subframe is in a far better state. Apparently this happens to MQB cars indeed.

In the meantime the rusty control arms have been replaced :)

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Ouch, have to say my Golf's control arms look a lot better than this ATM. Glad to read your subframe itself was ok.
My subframe has minor surface corrosion on it's N/S end, but that's it and will be sorted soon enough. Still a bit
annoying that my Missus' 2017 and higher miles Citroen C3 has fared better.
 
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More road grit accumulates in the rear.

There are no rust protection on the satin black suspension parts from factory. Control arms subframe and so on need to be protected asap after new car delivery. General nobody cares about this, they say its protected from factory....
But we care :) !!
 
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