Altea dial clocks MFD

[Dai_O]

Hi guys

can anyone tell me whats involved in changing the clocks on a 2007 Altea

I currently have the standard clock set with no real MFD, it just shows time, mileage, and trip computer stuff etc.

If i wanted to put a MFD2 / 3 in what problems might i face

Can anyone help me with any tips or required programming info i might need to do?


Cheers for your time


Dai O

 

[Dai_O]

any one got any ideas, i got the cheap set of clocks with MFD, how easy is this to incorportae into my car???

Cheers
Dai O

 

[A2day]

As far has I know, it involves ECU programming, and should be done on a Seat Service.

 

[klawit]

Hi again, Dai_O

right after having sent my PM answer to you, I ran into your thread here ...

you're mentioning that you've currently got the small display, right? Means you already have the stork with the control buttons/switches to swap between the menues.
(just asking, because there is a basic cluster as well, that only has static time/temp/distance display)

So my assumption with the small display (dot-matrix) was wrong as I learn here.

So there is more than just the cluster that needs to be retrofitted ...

The rest of my message reads like this, just to have the community informed as well:

afaik, if the instrument cluster with the large dot-matrix has the same speedometer-scales (i.e. same vmax), the radio-code and the immobilizer needs to be re-coded in connection with the new cluster (these ids are stored within the cluster).
These codes can be supplied by your dealer on your demand.
(you prob. need to sign a request form ... not sure if UK handles radio-code same as Germany)
On top of this, all car keys need to be re-assigned as well, so better bring them along.
This should be it ...

If speedo-scales differ (240km/h to 260km/h) ... hmmm ... not sure if you/your dealer will most likely need to do some ECU recoding to reflect the slightly different scaling ... better ask your dealer's mechanic/technician if so.

But you're right: at least the coding will be a dealer's job, so it depends on your ability to change the hardware ...
but there might be a little logistical problem: how to get your Altea to the dealer, when keys/immobilizer won't work after the exchange?

On top of this, I find several other retrofitting threads that you've started (steering wheel, radio etc.)

As I think of it, be aware, that some upgrading will need "highline"-ECUs ... and your Altea seems to be more of a basic model (Reference).
Don't mean to be depriciating ... it's just a reminder, that you better check this before collecting retrofit parts .... as those ECUs might easily become the most expensive parts on your shopping list.

greets .... Klaus

 

[Dai_O]

Thnaks for getting back to me Klaus

yeap got the small display which shows trip computer data (MPG, average speed, time on current journey etc) and yes got the controls on my wiper stalk.

Will have to check the scales differ, (cluster is at home right now).

The new cluster was SO cheap it would have been a crime to leave so bought it,
Yes you are right, i do have a refernece model 1.6 petrol
So what are your thoughts now?? Is it a new ECU or can it just be reprogrammed??

If i am looking at more parts then, i will have to weigh up what it costs to what i will get with my new cluster.

BTW what will i get on the new cluster???, as i said it was SO cheap had to buy it just in case.

If it's gonna cost to much anyone wanna buy a brand new cluster with large display
LOL


cheers Dai O

 

[klawit]

Hi Dai O,

as I tried to explain, new or "highline"-ECUs aren't always needed ....

but you'll have to sort out, what kind of retrofitting you'll be planning and what electronics might be affected ... and then check for the corresponding ECU to support the upgrading.

For instance, some older basic central ECUs don't support foglights ... so there is another investment for an ECU-upgrade on top to get those retrofitted foglamps shining.

There are lots of ECU's working together via gateways and bussystem ...
to check out some of them, have a look at the GolfV page here
=> http://en.openobd.org/vw/golf_1k.htm
... and there is a special one for the Altea (5P/1P) here
=> http://de.openobd.org/seat/altea_5p.htm (sorry, only in german)

They are a little outdated ... but still can be used as a guideline for older modelyears.

greets ... Klaus

 

[Dai_O]

Hey Klaus, thanks for the info, yes you were right, my lowline ecu did not support this cluster

To be honest the Seat Dealer i took it too, took one look at it and didnt even fancy trying, telling me my lowline dash would not support this highline cluster, gutted he never even tried

So it's now up for sale on this website if anyone is interested in a brand new cluster with 0 miles on it.

thanks again

Dai O

 

[chrisash32]

Hey Klaus, thanks for the info, yes you were right, my lowline ecu did not support this cluster

To be honest the Seat Dealer i took it too, took one look at it and didnt even fancy trying, telling me my lowline dash would not support this highline cluster, gutted he never even tried

So it's now up for sale on this website if anyone is interested in a brand new cluster with 0 miles on it.

thanks again

Dai O

sorry to hear you couldnt do it in the end! I Was going to do this mod on mine, but my SEAT dealer told me its a very costly mod... so i didnt bother. Decided to get the MFD2 navi system for a similar cost!

 

[Dai_O]

Hmmm someone just PM'ed me this,


Hi Mate,

I upgraded my Instrument cluster from one with the small MFD to one with the larger display. I purchased the new instrument cluster but made sure it was the correct one for the car, as most models have different ones. So ensure you purchase or find the correct one for your car and it should work. Effectively its a straight swap meaning, just the immobiliser needs to be recoded, the same as if you were just swapping to a new one due to a fault with the old one.
I had no problems with the dealer fitting mine. They weren’t sure if it was going to work, but only because they knew nothing about it.
I removed the dash surround and took it to the dealers so all they had to do is take out the old one and pop in the new one and reprogram it.
Confirm the part number for the new one is the correct one for your model first.

Cheers,
Dan

I think I might just ask another $tealer to see what they have to say, I got to be honest my local $tealer didn't seem interested in carrying out the work at all, lets see what Cardiff Seat say.

Not sure how I check the P/N of the cluster against my car, any ideas??


Thanks for looking guys

Dai O

 

[skard]

Apologies for bumping an old thread but this one seems the most relevant from a search - does anyone know if 2005 Leon clusters can be fitted in a 2007 Altea?

I have retreived the SKC of our Altea clocks already and don't feel I have anything to worry about in regard to swapping the IMMO data over, would quite like the full screen display. But would quite like a confirmation if they are swappable.

Thanks